Shy_Talk Posted February 13, 2017 Report Share Posted February 13, 2017 Lukaku wasn't a risk, a gamble, or an unknown quantity. He wanted the step up from West Brom and Chelsea wanted shut. His signing was no master stroke, and the club made the £28 million available for a striker that had already bagged how many premierleague goals??? As for the current optimism, it was only a matter of weeks ago that even accounts here were questioning the direction and perceived lack of improvements Koeman had failed to materialise. Simply put, with the conman removed and a former world class player installed as manager, the players eventually worked themselves out from under the stink the clown had filled the club with and Koeman has shuttled out the rest. Perhaps the professionalism, the honesty and the pragmatic approach has lifted spirits, cleared heads and focused minds and the club as a whole can move forwards and be free of the scar tissue the former manager inflicted upon us all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paddock Posted February 13, 2017 Author Report Share Posted February 13, 2017 Lukaku wasn't a risk, a gamble, or an unknown quantity. He wanted the step up from West Brom and Chelsea wanted shut. His signing was no master stroke, and the club made the £28 million available for a striker that had already bagged how many premierleague goals??? As for the current optimism, it was only a matter of weeks ago that even accounts here were questioning the direction and perceived lack of improvements Koeman had failed to materialise. Simply put, with the conman removed and a former world class player installed as manager, the players eventually worked themselves out from under the stink the clown had filled the club with and Koeman has shuttled out the rest. Perhaps the professionalism, the honesty and the pragmatic approach has lifted spirits, cleared heads and focused minds and the club as a whole can move forwards and be free of the scar tissue the former manager inflicted upon us all. As much as I think Martinez is a fraud and ruined us, even I have tongive him credit for Lukaku, regardless of what he and Chelsea wanted he still needed convincing to sign permanent and Martinez deserves credit for that. One of the few good things he done. Romey 1878 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted February 13, 2017 Report Share Posted February 13, 2017 (edited) took Martinez 1 year, and it's taken Koeman less than a year. Barca link.... http://www.espnfc.us/english-premier-league/story/3059874/ronald-koeman-deserves-his-dream-of-barcelona-managers-job-de-boer Edited February 13, 2017 by markjazzbassist Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Makis Posted February 13, 2017 Report Share Posted February 13, 2017 No, Frank, we still wouldn't take you. Romey 1878 and markjazzbassist 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted February 13, 2017 Report Share Posted February 13, 2017 No, Frank, we still wouldn't take you. lol I almost posted the same exact sentiment! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaron Posted February 16, 2017 Report Share Posted February 16, 2017 http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/everton-boss-ronald-koeman-frame-9824837 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lowensda Posted February 16, 2017 Report Share Posted February 16, 2017 Of course he's in the frame. As people point out, the media seem to hate us doing well. (Media now Everton are doing well) Koeman is good enough for Barca, manager of the moment > turns Barca down (wishful thinking) > (media response) He's not that good anyway, new Barca manager is much better than previous options (Koeman) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted February 16, 2017 Report Share Posted February 16, 2017 Koeman has said there's nothing in it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted February 16, 2017 Report Share Posted February 16, 2017 Of course he's in the frame. As people point out, the media seem to hate us doing well. (Media now Everton are doing well) Koeman is good enough for Barca, manager of the moment > turns Barca down (wishful thinking) > (media response) He's not that good anyway, new Barca manager is much better than previous options (Koeman) Spot on. Also every former player for Barca is "in the frame" the minute they lose. Just so happens koeman is the best of the lot so they're going with him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mogsy Posted February 18, 2017 Report Share Posted February 18, 2017 I do want this to be true!!! There was a sandstorm apparently but still it does look a bit dodgy!! ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted February 19, 2017 Report Share Posted February 19, 2017 http://www.evertonfc.com/news/2017/02/18/baines-were-playing-the-koeman-way “What we’ve shown comes from the manager. Of course, it takes time but the team starts to reflect the manager out on the pitch,” said Baines. You mean it wasn't expected by everyone that we should have instantly been playing the way Koeman wanted? That it might take some time to implement his ideas? What a revelation! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newty82 Posted February 19, 2017 Report Share Posted February 19, 2017 http://www.evertonfc.com/news/2017/02/18/baines-were-playing-the-koeman-way You mean it wasn't expected by everyone that we should have instantly been playing the way Koeman wanted? That it might take some time to implement his ideas? What a revelation! Not having it Rom...he should have had it sorted within 3 months. (Sarcasm obviously!) Romey 1878 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted February 19, 2017 Report Share Posted February 19, 2017 http://www.evertonfc.com/news/2017/02/18/baines-were-playing-the-koeman-way You mean it wasn't expected by everyone that we should have instantly been playing the way Koeman wanted? That it might take some time to implement his ideas? What a revelation! But we did week 1 against Spurs... who would have thought that! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shukes Posted February 19, 2017 Report Share Posted February 19, 2017 Not many were arguing he shouldn't be given time. Most were arguing that not much had changed at that point. You know back when we had been knocked out of both cups and were two points better than the previous season....which was apparently a disaster. Now he's had more time it looks like we have turned a corner and things are coming together. Hopefully this is a sign of things to come. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC11 Posted February 19, 2017 Report Share Posted February 19, 2017 Think it's silly to think everything's now fine because of a purple patch. He'll be judged upon the whole season. I think 7th was always going to be mandatory anything less would have to be considered poor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter H Posted February 20, 2017 Report Share Posted February 20, 2017 https://www.theguardian.com/football/2017/feb/16/football-transfer-rumours-ronald-koeman-to-take-barcelona-job Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newty82 Posted February 20, 2017 Report Share Posted February 20, 2017 It's a shame we flumped in the cups. We've got to expect better in both next season. It does put a downer on the season so far. We've just got to look at hunting down the top 6. Not saying we'll do it, but at least it gives the rest of the season some purpose. Something to aim for rather than just getting by until the end of the season in the lonely land of 7th. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted February 23, 2017 Report Share Posted February 23, 2017 http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/ashley-williams-everton-love-koeman-12642995 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paddock Posted February 25, 2017 Author Report Share Posted February 25, 2017 Great management from Koeman today subbing Barkley right after the second goal when everyone was buzzing and relieved so he got a great ovation. He looked made up with his applause, do his confidence the wirld of good that. Romey 1878 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted February 25, 2017 Report Share Posted February 25, 2017 It's a shame we flumped in the cups. We've got to expect better in both next season. It does put a downer on the season so far. We've just got to look at hunting down the top 6. Not saying we'll do it, but at least it gives the rest of the season some purpose. Something to aim for rather than just getting by until the end of the season in the lonely land of 7th. Wish West Brom would lose a game or two, comfortable margin behind them but they're a bit close for comfort, and having a great season! Hopefully we'll put them in their place in a couple of weeks at Goodison. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted February 25, 2017 Report Share Posted February 25, 2017 Great management from Koeman today subbing Barkley right after the second goal when everyone was buzzing and relieved so he got a great ovation. He looked made up with his applause, do his confidence the wirld of good that. ive questioned, and still do, some of his man-management decisions (especially the u23 statement yesterday or so), but today he managed the changes perfectly pete0 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newty82 Posted February 25, 2017 Report Share Posted February 25, 2017 Wish West Brom would lose a game or two, comfortable margin behind them but they're a bit close for comfort, and having a great season! Hopefully we'll put them in their place in a couple of weeks at Goodison. Yeah definitely. When I was writing that post I was thinking about WBA and how close they are actually. My step son is a WBA fan. It's kind of gone unnoticed how good they are doing good this season, what with the media bring obsessed with the current top 6. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted February 25, 2017 Report Share Posted February 25, 2017 Wish West Brom would lose a game or two, comfortable margin behind them but they're a bit close for comfort, and having a great season! Hopefully we'll put them in their place in a couple of weeks at Goodison. Yeah it seems like they match us result wise each week, we can never get further ahead! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paddock Posted February 25, 2017 Author Report Share Posted February 25, 2017 Wish West Brom would lose a game or two, comfortable margin behind them but they're a bit close for comfort, and having a great season! Hopefully we'll put them in their place in a couple of weeks at Goodison. Said this today on the way home. We just can't shake them off can we. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted February 26, 2017 Report Share Posted February 26, 2017 ive questioned, and still do, some of his man-management decisions (especially the u23 statement yesterday or so), but today he managed the changes perfectly Tbf about the U23 statement he did say it more in relation to the midfielders and it made perfect sense, because he went on to say how strong we are in midfield for the first-team (and one of those midfielders is someone who came from the U23s). Which is true, meaning it will be more or less impossible for them to get a call-up. No keeper is going to be called up either. Same goes for up front, other than the U23 already promoted in Calvert-Lewin. And Pennington is the defender he sees coming through, as stated in the article. It sounded bad when I read the title of the article, but it's anything of the sort. MikeO 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newty82 Posted February 26, 2017 Report Share Posted February 26, 2017 What's the article you refer to regarding the U23's? I've missed that one somewhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted February 26, 2017 Report Share Posted February 26, 2017 What's the article you refer to regarding the U23's? I've missed that one somewhere. http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/everton-matthew-pennington-koeman-youth-12652164 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newty82 Posted February 26, 2017 Report Share Posted February 26, 2017 http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/everton-matthew-pennington-koeman-youth-12652164 Thanks for that. I was expecting something a bit bigger, more in depth than that! I don't read too much into what he is saying. We know how Koeman works now...there's nothing he says that the players don't already know. I think he creates hunger. The youngsters know that we want to move forward. Morgan is the calibre of player we are going after. Up to them to up their game. Glad they are doing the business in the PL2, that's a tough league. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted February 26, 2017 Report Share Posted February 26, 2017 I didn't read it like that, Mark, but I hope (and expect) you're correct Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete0 Posted February 26, 2017 Report Share Posted February 26, 2017 Tbf about the U23 statement he did say it more in relation to the midfielders and it made perfect sense, because he went on to say how strong we are in midfield for the first-team (and one of those midfielders is someone who came from the U23s). Which is true, meaning it will be more or less impossible for them to get a call-up. No keeper is going to be called up either. Same goes for up front, other than the U23 already promoted in Calvert-Lewin. And Pennington is the defender he sees coming through, as stated in the article. It sounded bad when I read the title of the article, but it's anything of the sort. I was hoping to see Dowell given a chance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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