markjazzbassist Posted March 5, 2017 Report Share Posted March 5, 2017 Am I missing something? Lookman? Ok his form has dropped slightly but he has still been one of our most dangerous players. Same as tom Davies, come out with a bang and next match solid but everything after that just average. Last match lookman kept going backwards and passing instead of going forwards and attacking. He nullified that whole left side. Also he got thrown off the ball a lot because es not that strong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted March 5, 2017 Report Share Posted March 5, 2017 It's the passing backwards and stalling attacks that I just don't get with him. He's speedy and he's got skill on the ball. He needs to use them things, he'll make a few players look silly if he does. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cornish Steve Posted March 7, 2017 Report Share Posted March 7, 2017 Frankly, I think he's as good as gone. http://www.bbc.com/sport/football/39187772 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted March 7, 2017 Report Share Posted March 7, 2017 Frankly, I think he's as good as gone. http://www.bbc.com/sport/football/39187772 he's considered an outside pick because he's never won the league/trophies here. Sampaoli, Blanc, Valverde the heavy favorites because they've done well before (Koeman tanked with Valencia). I doubt very much he's leaving. holystove 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaron Posted March 7, 2017 Report Share Posted March 7, 2017 If Barca come in for him I honestly wouldn't hold it against him going there, its barca, its his club. However do I see Koeman getting that job? No. Whomever gets it will be succeeded by Xavi anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted March 7, 2017 Report Share Posted March 7, 2017 agreed aaron i wouldn't be mad either, it's his club and congrats. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sibdane Posted March 7, 2017 Report Share Posted March 7, 2017 I don't believe there is any truth to the rumours. He hasn't done enough to warrant that seat in my opinion. If the they are true then I couldn't hold it against him for leaving, but I would be disappointed as I think we can accomplish big things with him. markjazzbassist 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted March 7, 2017 Report Share Posted March 7, 2017 Frankly, I think he's as good as gone. http://www.bbc.com/sport/football/39187772 Ernesto Valverde is the bookies favourite followed by Jorge Sampaoli and Wenger. http://www.oddschecker.com/football/football-specials/barcelona/next-permanent-manager markjazzbassist 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lowensda Posted March 7, 2017 Report Share Posted March 7, 2017 He's not going, Rom wouldn't be signing a contract if he thought that was the case. Matt and markjazzbassist 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cornish Steve Posted March 7, 2017 Report Share Posted March 7, 2017 (edited) Ernesto Valverde is the bookies favourite followed by Jorge Sampaoli and Wenger. http://www.oddschecker.com/football/football-specials/barcelona/next-permanent-manager They may list Koeman fifth, but his odds are fourth or third pushing second favourite with several betting companies. 13/2 is significantly lower odds than Wenger at 9/1. Edited March 7, 2017 by Cornish Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paddock Posted March 7, 2017 Author Report Share Posted March 7, 2017 There is absolutely no way Koemans going to Barcelona at this moment in time. One day maybe but not a snowballs chance in hell of it happening this time around. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newty82 Posted March 7, 2017 Report Share Posted March 7, 2017 No way that Barca will pick Koeman at this time. He simply hasn't achieved enough as a manager yet. Too many out here that have superior management CV's. I also wouldn't blame him if he did make that choice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted March 7, 2017 Report Share Posted March 7, 2017 I'm not sure his style is that of a Barca manager either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sibdane Posted March 7, 2017 Report Share Posted March 7, 2017 I'm not sure his style is that of a Barca manager either.I was actually coming on here to add that. Definitely don't see Barca playing his style. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaron Posted March 8, 2017 Report Share Posted March 8, 2017 No way that Barca will pick Koeman at this time. He simply hasn't achieved enough as a manager yet. Too many out here that have superior management CV's. I also wouldn't blame him if he did make that choice. Pep? He only had working with Barcelona B on his CV (managerial cv that is). Look at Madrid, they hired Zidane in the same fashion, look how both turned out. They aren't arsed about what a CV says, its all about winning and playing the "Barcelona way". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted March 8, 2017 Report Share Posted March 8, 2017 Pep? He only had working with Barcelona B on his CV (managerial cv that is). Look at Madrid, they hired Zidane in the same fashion, look how both turned out. They aren't arsed about what a CV says, its all about winning and playing the "Barcelona way". Good point but koeman one foray into la liga was a failure with Valencia. Pep was very successful with b team. Whole different style of football over there and koeman been away from it for a while. Sure he's got the Barca way and clout, no doubt. They could even make a case that managing small clubs in England helps his case (like Luis Enrique with celta). Just don't think timing is right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaron Posted March 8, 2017 Report Share Posted March 8, 2017 Good point but koeman one foray into la liga was a failure with Valencia. Pep was very successful with b team. Whole different style of football over there and koeman been away from it for a while. Sure he's got the Barca way and clout, no doubt. They could even make a case that managing small clubs in England helps his case (like Luis Enrique with celta). Just don't think timing is right. He did win the Copa Del Ray with Valencia.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted March 8, 2017 Report Share Posted March 8, 2017 Ever heard of tetrachromats? They can see colours the rest of us can't. For example, they can see which fruit in a grocery store is ripe and which is not. http://nymag.com/scienceofus/2015/02/what-like-see-a-hundred-million-colors.html Going completely off topic again! http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p04vn4z1?intc_type=singletheme&intc_location=bbctwohighlights&intc_campaign=bbctwohighlights&intc_linkname=vidclip_incredmedmillioncolours_contentcard2 Cornish Steve 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palfy Posted March 8, 2017 Report Share Posted March 8, 2017 Going completely off topic again! http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p04vn4z1?intc_type=singletheme&intc_location=bbctwohighlights&intc_campaign=bbctwohighlights&intc_linkname=vidclip_incredmedmillioncolours_contentcard2 Completely unless she's interested in a CD role. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted March 8, 2017 Report Share Posted March 8, 2017 Completely unless she's interested in a CD role. That's my worry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newty82 Posted March 9, 2017 Report Share Posted March 9, 2017 Pep? He only had working with Barcelona B on his CV (managerial cv that is). Look at Madrid, they hired Zidane in the same fashion, look how both turned out. They aren't arsed about what a CV says, its all about winning and playing the "Barcelona way". Yep. Both Pep and Zidane spent years behind the scenes of both clubs learning the way etc. Although Barca have more recent history at recruiting from within. Every so often you can pull the odd name but look at the majority of managers they have had rather than the rare talented one from inside the club. More so Real. It's a good point mind. Not quite changed my mind though!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted March 11, 2017 Report Share Posted March 11, 2017 I wasn't happy that he got it so very wrong last week and after seeing the line-up today I was a bit worried. But he got it spot on. I was concerned at Jags partnering Williams because they're not the most mobile of pairs but they were rock solid. Barry starting after last weekends performance made my eyes widen but he was one of our best players. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c1982 Posted March 11, 2017 Report Share Posted March 11, 2017 Huge contrast to our past three home performances against a team that was fast becoming a bit of a bogey team for us. We could be so dangerous next season if we get the summer right. markjazzbassist and Romey 1878 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paddock Posted March 12, 2017 Author Report Share Posted March 12, 2017 I wasn't happy that he got it so very wrong last week and after seeing the line-up today I was a bit worried. But he got it spot on. I was concerned at Jags partnering Williams because they're not the most mobile of pairs but they were rock solid. Barry starting after last weekends performance made my eyes widen but he was one of our best players. I said exactly the same when we got in the ground, so did most around me but Barry and Jagielka played very well. Tbh, I'm not entirely sure he did get it that wrong against Spurs, I think they're just a better side than us all over the pitch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC11 Posted March 12, 2017 Report Share Posted March 12, 2017 The Spurs lineup was far too defensive. Spurs are a good team but we set up to sit back and let them play. If he'd have thrown two of Mirallas, Lookman or Valencia into the lineup it would have shown some intent to go and grab all three points. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted March 12, 2017 Report Share Posted March 12, 2017 (edited) I said exactly the same when we got in the ground, so did most around me but Barry and Jagielka played very well. Tbh, I'm not entirely sure he did get it that wrong against Spurs, I think they're just a better side than us all over the pitch. He really did though, Pad. If for no other reason than he made us extremely narrow against a side who have full-backs that absolutely love to get forward. The way we set up let them have free-reign. Baines had a nightmare against Walker because he was constantly being bombarded. Coleman got it to a lesser extent with Rose being missing. We needed to give them something to think about going the other way but we had nothing. I'm not even sure how he expected us to play on the counter because our fast players were sat on the bench . Edited March 12, 2017 by Romey 1878 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newty82 Posted March 12, 2017 Report Share Posted March 12, 2017 I also think it looked too defensive against spurs. I struggle enough with the current system of only having 3 attacking players out there, never mind 2!!! But it's getting us results. Its impossible to say if it would have made any difference against Spurs. But it might have shown a bit more confidence in ourselves as a team and the individual players. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted March 12, 2017 Report Share Posted March 12, 2017 I also think it looked too defensive against spurs. I struggle enough with the current system of only having 3 attacking players out there, never mind 2!!! But it's getting us results. Its impossible to say if it would have made any difference against Spurs. But it might have shown a bit more confidence in ourselves as a team and the individual players. The way I see it is we lost anyway, so we should have been a little more positive in our set-up. That was always my problem with Moyes when he'd shit the bed. Time after time he'd set us up negatively and we'd inevitably lose. Sure there were the odd games when it'd pay off but more often than not we'd lose anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palfy Posted March 12, 2017 Report Share Posted March 12, 2017 I said before the Spurs game most fans can except a loss against a (so called better team) as long as everyone has gone out there and given their all to win the game, and that includes the manager it all started wrongly with Koeman's line up, to try and defend for ninety minutes against a team who have been scoring goals for fun was a decision which handed them the game. Koeman's not a silly man, if most of us who are could see it wasn't the right tactic, I'm sure he has realised the same and we improve and move on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Makis Posted March 12, 2017 Report Share Posted March 12, 2017 The Spurs lineup was far too defensive. Spurs are a good team but we set up to sit back and let them play. If he'd have thrown two of Mirallas, Lookman or Valencia into the lineup it would have shown some intent to go and grab all three points. You would throw in 11 Mirallas's if that was possible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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