Palfy Posted January 26, 2019 Report Share Posted January 26, 2019 1 minute ago, hafnia said: I don't see how it's his fault palf... he's bought in a DOF now who makes the decisions. Haf he had decided Silva was going to be manager 6 months before for Brands arrived. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post MikeO Posted January 26, 2019 Popular Post Report Share Posted January 26, 2019 Just now, Shukes said: I don’t think I have felt this down in a long time. I’m gutted, absolutely devastated. Sad day for Everton but also a sad day for officialdom, does the cup have VAR or does it not? You can't introduce it in some games but not in others, if you enter a competition all should play by the same rules surely. Gwlad, Chach, Newty82 and 5 others 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palfy Posted January 26, 2019 Report Share Posted January 26, 2019 1 minute ago, BedfordBlue said: What the fuck has Moshiri done wrong apart from apoint the wrong manager and is probably bills job and inject millions of pounds into the club Appointed 3 wrong managers and headed the spending of hundreds of millions on mostly shit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted January 26, 2019 Report Share Posted January 26, 2019 2 minutes ago, Shukes said: I don’t think I have felt this down in a long time. I’m gutted, absolutely devastated. I'm not. It's football. Treat it for what it is. A game where the team you love is doing shit. Got dickheads going to games slashing people's faces... scarred for life. The result will be a faded memory in a few years for many. Matt, Chach, markjazzbassist and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted January 26, 2019 Author Report Share Posted January 26, 2019 Just now, MikeO said: Sad day for Everton but also a sad day for officialdom, does the cup have VAR or does it not? You can't introduce it in some games but not in others, if you enter a competition all should play by the same rules surely. Just now, MikeO said: Sad day for Everton but also a sad day for officialdom, does the cup have VAR or does it not? You can't introduce it in some games but not in others, if you enter a competition all should play by the same rules surely. agree completely i looked it up and it's like 3 matches a day, what a fucking sham. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wiggytop Posted January 26, 2019 Report Share Posted January 26, 2019 Awful performance once again, we tried to play clever passing and flick ons in awful weather on an awful pitch, against a team that just wanted to clatter us at every opportunity. We needed to play simpler more direct foorball. Didn't help ourselves by not being able to clear the ball, and giving away stupid free kicks, two from Digne which resulted in two goals. I don't believe in changing managers without giving them a chance to prove themselves, but I'm starting to worry Marco isn'tt up to the job, we need huge improvement on Tuesday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted January 26, 2019 Report Share Posted January 26, 2019 4 minutes ago, Palfy said: Haf he had decided Silva was going to be manager 6 months before for Brands arrived. Yeah... I get that. And we now have a DOF who will no doubt be looking at that position. I wanted Silva myself... it hasn't worked. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ger Posted January 26, 2019 Report Share Posted January 26, 2019 2 minutes ago, MikeO said: Sad day for Everton but also a sad day for officialdom, does the cup have VAR or does it not? You can't introduce it in some games but not in others, if you enter a competition all should play by the same rules surely. VAR is just used in the League Cup this season, not in the FA Cup of Premiership, but we needed it today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shukes Posted January 26, 2019 Report Share Posted January 26, 2019 4 minutes ago, hafnia said: I'm not. It's football. Treat it for what it is. A game where the team you love is doing shit. Got dickheads going to games slashing people's faces... scarred for life. The result will be a faded memory in a few years for many. Your right mate, but i still feel like shit. Not even angry, just upset with that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gwlad Posted January 26, 2019 Report Share Posted January 26, 2019 I was meh on Silva (actually voted for Pellegrini in the poll.....good shout) but we can't get rid now, he has to get a grip and try to take us out of this mess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted January 26, 2019 Author Report Share Posted January 26, 2019 2 minutes ago, Ger said: VAR is just used in the League Cup this season, not in the FA Cup of Premiership, but we needed it today. yes it is, only select matches which is bull shit http://www.thefa.com/news/2019/jan/17/fa-cup-var-fourth-round-170119 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted January 26, 2019 Report Share Posted January 26, 2019 2 minutes ago, Palfy said: Appointed 3 wrong managers and headed the spending of hundreds of millions on mostly shit. I'd sooner have a chairman who hires, backs and sacks than a chairman who had us winning the spend little but finish 5th cup as our highlight for 11 years... At least I get the feeling moshiri is able to get us operating in the level that we need to be. Liverpool hired and fired lots of managers and have ended up better for it. What did we get for our 11 years with moyes? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palfy Posted January 26, 2019 Report Share Posted January 26, 2019 6 minutes ago, hafnia said: Yeah... I get that. And we now have a DOF who will no doubt be looking at that position. I wanted Silva myself... it hasn't worked. I hope to God that Brands has someone in mind not from this league we need someone with a completely different mind set and fresh ideas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haiku Posted January 26, 2019 Report Share Posted January 26, 2019 The problem is THE MANAGER. I lost fate in Marco Silva. I don't think he's at a level matching our ambitions. He's simply not good enough. We should find proven manager. What are we thinking, we'll find the next Pocettino out of nowhere? Fuck no. Look what happened to Monaco. We should stop throwing millions on players and secure a highly paid proven Manager who can fix this mess. I wouldn't mind if we sign Mourinho at this point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted January 26, 2019 Report Share Posted January 26, 2019 1 minute ago, markjazzbassist said: yes it is, only select matches which is bull shit http://www.thefa.com/news/2019/jan/17/fa-cup-var-fourth-round-170119 Surely one of the selected matches (if it has to be that way) should be one covered live by the multiple angles offered by the national broadcaster. I really hope Millwall are dry humped in the next round. markjazzbassist 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted January 26, 2019 Author Report Share Posted January 26, 2019 1 minute ago, Haiku said: The problem is THE MANAGER. I lost fate in Marco Silva. I don't think he's at a level matching our ambitions. He's simply not good enough. We should find proven manager. What are we thinking, we'll find the next Pocettino out of nowhere? Fuck no. Look what happened to Monaco. We should stop throwing millions on players and secure a highly paid proven Manager who can fix this mess. I wouldn't mind if we sign Mourinho at this point. we should have gotten jardim, he's a great manager, they did him dirty by selling their whole squad and then firing him, i'm perplexed why he went back there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted January 26, 2019 Report Share Posted January 26, 2019 1 minute ago, MikeO said: Surely one of the selected matches (if it has to be that way) should be one covered live by the multiple angles offered by the national broadcaster. I really hope Millwall are dry humped in the next round. See their classless nob of a manager kicking off trying to get the replay on the large screen shut down? Gwlad and markjazzbassist 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haiku Posted January 26, 2019 Report Share Posted January 26, 2019 Just now, markjazzbassist said: we should have gotten jardim, he's a great manager, they did him dirty by selling their whole squad and then firing him, i'm perplexed why he went back there. Yeah, he's good, but I find it strange he went back, I wouldn't. markjazzbassist 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palfy Posted January 26, 2019 Report Share Posted January 26, 2019 4 minutes ago, hafnia said: I'd sooner have a chairman who hires, backs and sacks than a chairman who had us winning the spend little but finish 5th cup as our highlight for 11 years... At least I get the feeling moshiri is able to get us operating in the level that we need to be. Liverpool hired and fired lots of managers and have ended up better for it. What did we get for our 11 years with moyes? So would I Haf but he's had to much input into what goes on with the team and he isn'tt a football man he is out of his depth when it comes any decisions in and around the team, but he can't stop putting his oar in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gwlad Posted January 26, 2019 Report Share Posted January 26, 2019 God. I wouldn't like to be in the EFC boardroom. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palfy Posted January 26, 2019 Report Share Posted January 26, 2019 1 minute ago, Gwlad all over said: God. I wouldn't like to be in the EFC boardroom. With Moshiri telling Brands who he thinks the next manager should be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haiku Posted January 26, 2019 Report Share Posted January 26, 2019 5 minutes ago, Gwlad all over said: God. I wouldn't like to be in the EFC boardroom. I would like, so I can show them the obvious: Hire a proven manager with footballing brain and rebuild from there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted January 26, 2019 Author Report Share Posted January 26, 2019 11 minutes ago, Haiku said: I would like, so I can show them the obvious: Hire a proven manager with footballing brain and rebuild from there. i don't want to fire Silva, but who realistically (key word here) could we replace him with? unsworth till the summer? then poach again? the only manager with proven success in the dutch league and europa is peter bosz but he's worse than silva in that his matches are 6-5 and no defense is played. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted January 26, 2019 Report Share Posted January 26, 2019 25 minutes ago, Palfy said: So would I Haf but he's had to much input into what goes on with the team and he isn'ttt a football man he is out of his depth when it comes any decisions in and around the team, but he can't stop putting his oar in. Id like to understand what level of interference he has if any... From what I understand our last 2 chairmen have had too much say. Just bankroll the right mansgers/dofs and that's it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted January 26, 2019 Report Share Posted January 26, 2019 I actually thought we played alright in the second half bar those bloody set pieces. We still fail to shoot and we still pick silly passes when easy passes are available but at least there was some urgency. Their second goal is a bit unlucky. The freekick was soft anyway and then we win the header but the breaks dont go our way and that happens. That 3rd goal is another fucking travesty. People will blame Silva but like the first goal, all that needs is the players on the pitch to be aggressive and have that desire to go and win the ball in the air. They all know whats coming, just get your fucking head on it. It was just pathetic. They should have been climbing over each other to win the ball but instead Coleman is getting bullied around y their players to win the ball whilst ours sit and watch. I honestly dont know what the answer is anymore. The manager doesnt matter. The good players are soft and the ones that do give a shit arent good enough. AlbanyNYToffee 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badaids Posted January 26, 2019 Report Share Posted January 26, 2019 Well Marco has already in effect had a vote confidence, so I don't think he can be that far away from the chop to be honest. It's right to say that it's horrible to sack the manager every year, and we are nowhere near as bas as at this point last year, but Marco has clearly lost control of the situation and has no idea of how to pull out of the nosedive we are in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palfy Posted January 26, 2019 Report Share Posted January 26, 2019 10 minutes ago, hafnia said: Id like to understand what level of interference he has if any... From what I understand our last 2 chairmen have had too much say. Just bankroll the right mansgers/dofs and that's it. I agree that's what should happen but I've always had this notion about him that he thinks he knows better than anyone else, I know fat Sam is full of sour grapes when it comes to anything Everton but because of the feeling I had about Moshiri from day one, I believe it when he said they would decide if a player was good enough if they didn't then defend it, because that's a damming statement that should be contested if not true the silence convinces me even more that he interfered with team affairs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barryj Posted January 26, 2019 Report Share Posted January 26, 2019 We need to sort out the defence, particularly set pieces. I’d be happy to see the last of zonal defending. Deacs 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cornish Steve Posted January 26, 2019 Report Share Posted January 26, 2019 Pathetic. I’m going to repeat myself: Games are won and lost in midfield. It’s there that we need leadership and passion. Drop Sigurdsson. He makes the team unbalanced. pete0 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted January 26, 2019 Report Share Posted January 26, 2019 Fifty years of supporting the club and this is pretty close to the most depressed/angry I've ever been. For sure their second goal was insanity by the officials (they will be horrified seeing the replays) but our inability to defend set pieces is a joke. Do we have a defensive coach? If not we need one big time. pete0, Gwlad, Romey 1878 and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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