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1 hour ago, Quinn31 said:

Brutal to drop the win there given how dominant we were in the first half - Wales a much different team in the second half, though very limited ability wise outside of Bale.

Bale did very little.  Thought Moore was the difference maker.  He's got tidy feet for a big man.  US really lost impetus at start of the second half.  Wales couldn't live with their pace and press in the first half, but the US really sat back in the second half. 

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56 minutes ago, chicagoblue said:

Bale did very little.  Thought Moore was the difference maker.  He's got tidy feet for a big man.  US really lost impetus at start of the second half.  Wales couldn't live with their pace and press in the first half, but the US really sat back in the second half. 

The US counter attack was dreadful too. They should have done loads better but consistently played into Welsh hands and made it easy to defend. Some decent coaching and they would have cut Wales open.

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10 minutes ago, dunlopp9987 said:

It ultimately came down to one boneheaded mistake by Zimmerman. The US backline never looked truly tested in open play, and had it not been for that challenge I think we would've gone on to win.

Think second place will come down to US or Wales on goal differential

It was Ream wasn’t it?

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10 hours ago, Cornish Steve said:

Brutal to drop the win there given how dominant we were in the second half.

If you look at the chances created in each half, a draw is probably right. US dominated the first half but their only clear-cut chance was the almost-OG followed immediately by Sargent hitting the post. Wales, for all their dominance in the second half, only had the header by Davies that Turner saved.

 

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11 hours ago, Cornish Steve said:

The Welsh were gaining more and more momentum. That foul by the US at the very end, when Bale had the ball and the US keeper was way off his line, warranted a red card. Kieffer Moore was the best player on the field.

Per the rules or per your emotions?

11 hours ago, Cornish Steve said:

Brutal to drop the win there given how dominant we were in the second half.

You never had the lead so nothing to drop but maybe I'm being pedantic 😉

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11 hours ago, Cornish Steve said:

The Welsh were gaining more and more momentum. That foul by the US at the very end, when Bale had the ball and the US keeper was way off his line, warranted a red card. Kieffer Moore was the best player on the field.

Moore was the best Welsh player on the field? Cause over the full 90, Tyler Adams or Tim Ream were the best players on the pitch regardless of side

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What is it with Argentina and major tournaments? Stunned when I woke up this morning and saw that result. 

It's hard cause there are 3 teams in this tournament who I absolutely do not want to win anything, as their governments are abhorrent. However, that's not the players' fault, so I'm thrilled for the Saudi team. 

But I still hate to see regimes like that get any sort of positive world publicity

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6 minutes ago, dunlopp9987 said:

What is it with Argentina and major tournaments? Stunned when I woke up this morning and saw that result. 

It's hard cause there are 3 teams in this tournament who I absolutely do not want to win anything, as their governments are abhorrent. However, that's not the players' fault, so I'm thrilled for the Saudi team. 

But I still hate to see regimes like that get any sort of positive world publicity

I wouldn't read too much into it. Didn't France lose their first match to Cameroon before winning the cup?

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2 hours ago, Cornish Steve said:

I wouldn't read too much into it. Didn't France lose their first match to Cameroon before winning the cup?

Nope, beat Australia and Peru and then drew with Denmark.

But you're right, it's likely a blip, but stranger things have happened. A loss like that could be crushing for their mentality and really blows that group wide open

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16 minutes ago, dunlopp9987 said:

Texted a friend as soon as they scored, they doomed themselves scoring that early

Ah mate to even get one is something. Didn’t take too long for normal business to resume 

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5 minutes ago, Cornish Steve said:

One of the teams eliminated after two games should insist on their captain wearing an armband for the third. When he gets a yellow card, he should hand the captaincy and armband to a teammate. If they get a yellow card, the process should continue until the entire team is given yellow cards. They'd become heroes in the world of sports.

Love this

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58 minutes ago, Cornish Steve said:

One of the teams eliminated after two games should insist on their captain wearing an armband for the third. When he gets a yellow card, he should hand the captaincy and armband to a teammate. If they get a yellow card, the process should continue until the entire team is given yellow cards. They'd become heroes in the world of sports.

Maybe it could be Germany!

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Not meaning to keep harping on about the hypocrisy of FIFA and allowing Qatar to host the World Cup, but I think it's important to understand just how restrictive the country is. From the article below, we can deduce that:

  • Fans would be fined for bringing a packet of pork scratchings into Qatar
  • Men or women could be fined or imprisoned for wearing shorts or otherwise revealing their knees
  • A pregnant woman who has a miscarriage while attending the World Cup would receive no medical treatment without first providing the authorities with a certificate to prove she's married
  • An unmarried man sharing a hotel room with his long-time female partner could face up to seven years in jail. If his partner is male, it could be a death sentence.
  • Fans of England shouting abuse at fans of Wales on the way to the stadium, for example, could face imprisonment
  • As we've seen already, anyone wearing shoe laces that could be construed as being rainbow-colored will be forced to remove them

https://www.npr.org/2022/11/19/1137783957/world-cup-qatar-fan-restrictions-alcohol

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On 22/11/2022 at 09:26, MikeO said:

I agree with Steve; it maybe wasn't a "normal" clear goal scoring opportunity but for me, watching live, it still was one. 50/50 Bale scores from there.

I get your point but still think that rule is generally applied to "last man" tackles and not situations like this? I've just never seen that rule applied to anything but like deliberate hand ball and last man tackles.

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8 minutes ago, Quinn31 said:

I get your point but still think that rule is generally applied to "last man" tackles and not situations like this? I've just never seen that rule applied to anything but like deliberate hand ball and last man tackles.

I don't know the letter of the law, but for me; how often is Gareth Bale going to put the ball into an effectively empty net from the half way line? Quite a lot. If the rules don't cover stuff like that they need changing.

 

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42 minutes ago, MikeO said:

I don't know the letter of the law, but for me; how often is Gareth Bale going to put the ball into an effectively empty net from the half way line? Quite a lot. If the rules don't cover stuff like that they need changing.

 

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I just think we're going to have to disagree on this one.

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7 minutes ago, dunlopp9987 said:

What are everyone's thoughts on the stoppage time changes being made? I've seen lots of arguments for and against it. 

Personally I hate it

As I said before, I'd like the clock to be stopped when the ball's dead; works perfectly well in other sports and then everybody knows when the game's over.

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7 hours ago, MikeO said:

I don't know the letter of the law, but for me; how often is Gareth Bale going to put the ball into an effectively empty net from the half way line? Quite a lot. If the rules don't cover stuff like that they need changing.

 

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What happens if it was a different player that had the ball at their feet? Would you be as confident of the goal being scored?

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8 hours ago, Bailey said:

What happens if it was a different player that had the ball at their feet? Would you be as confident of the goal being scored?

Fair point, I shouldn't have personalised it; any professional footballer should be able to put the ball in an empty net from half way.

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15 hours ago, MikeO said:

As I said before, I'd like the clock to be stopped when the ball's dead; works perfectly well in other sports and then everybody knows when the game's over.

Never happen for the simple reason that the TV companies would lose control of their schedule as a 90 minute game could easily last over 2 hours.

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5 hours ago, dunlopp9987 said:

Goosebumps watching it. A thing of beauty

You see…. My dislike of Lukaku is for the opposite reasons I love Richarlison.   He wears the shirt with pride, runs himself into the ground for the team. 
 

he knew he was leaving Everton and played with an injury and left it all out on the pitch. Lukaku was only arsed if he thought something was in it for him and not the team.   Richarlison will forever have our gratitude. 

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12 minutes ago, Romey 1878 said:

Iran have really deserved this victory. They've completely outplayed Wales and have shown the quality that Wales really lack.

Sets up the Iran US game beautifully. Winner takes all, surely? I can't see Wales getting anything from the England game. 

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49 minutes ago, Formby said:

Sets up the Iran US game beautifully. Winner takes all, surely? I can't see Wales getting anything from the England game. 

Yep. I saw this coming, had a hunch Iran would beat Wales and we will either lose or scrape out a point against England

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1 hour ago, Formby said:

Sets up the Iran US game beautifully. Winner takes all, surely? I can't see Wales getting anything from the England game. 

They'll up their game against us (so I wouldn't be surprised if they get a result), as they always do, but they only have a couple of players with genuine quality with the rest being cannon fodder.

Passion and singing hymn's will only take you so far. 

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