Man of the Match v Crystal Palace

[MikeO]

To follow.

[Sibdane]

James. 

[markjazzbassist]

james he scored unlike the rest of our side

[Shukes]

Richie for effort alone. He didn’t play badly, he just shot badly.

[Romey 1878]

Coleman.

[Zoo 2.0]

2 minutes ago, Shukes said:

Richie for effort alone. He didn’t play badly, he just shot badly.

You on the wind up? 

Richarlison. Didn't. Play. Badly?

[pete0]

4 minutes ago, Shukes said:

Richie for effort alone. He didn’t play badly, he just shot badly.

You'll get that effort from any fan, and any fan could have bagged at least one of those chances. Free kick needs addressing too. 

[Zoo 2.0]

Just now, pete0 said:

You'll get that effort from any fan, and any fan could have bagged at least one of those chances. Free kick needs addressing too. 

Should be fined a week's wages for that and I'm not even joking. We lost points by a single goal when we had three fucking free kick takers on the pitch with a free kick about 20 yards out. Honestly hoping the likes of Gylfi or Digne tear him a new one, I'd be beyond livid. 

[Shukes]

11 minutes ago, Zoo 2.0 said:

You on the wind up? 

Richarlison. Didn't. Play. Badly?

No I’m not. As a footballer, sometimes you just don’t have it your way, shots go wide ect.

Playing badly is not getting into positions to have those shots, not helping your team when needed, and not being involved in our only goal.

[duncanmckenzieismagic]

Keeper badly at fault for the goal , defence way out of shape for it also, midfield went AWOL all game , especially after Gomes went off , and the forwards both missed enough sitters to win 6 games
So has to be James for the only bit of quality shown be anyone in a blue shirt all night

 

[MC11]

James 

 

DCL missed two sitters, poor again. Richarlison also missed chances but overall offered a lot more. Another striker is a must! 

[Boston Toffee]

I went with Seamus. Worked harder than anyone when he was in. Gave up lot more chances when he went off. 

[StevO]

Coleman, was involved in creating a lot of chances that other people missed. 
Mention for James for having on real opportunity and showed his quality. 

It wasn’t the game to bring Gbamin on for me. He isn’t up to speed, they didn’t give him a second on the ball. 

The lack of sub options we had again showed our poor strength in depth, but the game should have already been out of sight by then. 
 

Not too arsed about the free kick thing, yeah Richarlison was frustrated at missing those chances and fancied it. Coleman could have stepped in if he saw fit. I’m sure Carlo will take care of it. If it was a penalty I’m sure I’d be more concerned though. 

[Palfy]

1 hour ago, Zoo 2.0 said:

Should be fined a week's wages for that and I'm not even joking. We lost points by a single goal when we had three fucking free kick takers on the pitch with a free kick about 20 yards out. Honestly hoping the likes of Gylfi or Digne tear him a new one, I'd be beyond livid. 

Ancelotti has to deal with this and not let the players deal with it on his behalf, in my eyes he has shown disrespect to the manager and his team mates, but what gets me is the weakness of Coleman the Captain standing twenty yards away and doing F all about it, he should have been straight over there and pulling rank on the situation. 

[Zoo 2.0]

7 minutes ago, Palfy said:

Ancelotti has to deal with this and not let the players deal with it on his behalf, in my eyes he has shown disrespect to the manager and his team mates, but what gets me is the weakness of Coleman the Captain standing twenty yards away and doing F all about it, he should have been straight over there and pulling rank on the situation. 

Would Roy Keane have put up with that? Absolutely not. As much as I love Seamus he should have been right in the middle of that the second Richarlison grabbed the ball and dragged him away, put him on his arse with a smack around the face if need be I couldn't care less. The disrespect of Richarlison to take the free-kick when we've got Sigurdsson, Digne and James (who are all world-class with a dead ball) is astounding, not to mention that we were 0-0 at the time so badly needed the goal. I could almost understand it if we were cruising but I just don't get the mentality of doing it when we're locked at 0-0 (or even 1-0 up). The players, i.e. - Coleman should have dealt with that themselves rather than bowing down to Richarlison's demands and I fully expect Carlo to address the situation if he hasn't already. 

He has disrespected the his team-mates, Carlo and the club. Might sound like I'm going overboard but playing for Everton shouldn't be a jolly where you dick about for 90 minutes, take the odd free-kick here, twat a 40 yard volley for the cameras there. I'd die for the shirt and if I were on the pitch would recognise that there are better players around me to strike a dead ball, individuality is really not what's needed at 0-0 when we're chasing an open door that Chelsea and Spurs left open by dropping points themselves.

It's a bit like the West Brom game, Sigurdsson comes off the bench and tells Digne to get off the corner because he's the designated taker - he whips the ball in and we score. It's all ifs, buts and maybes but who knows whether we would have scored from that? It's why I find it utter laughable how he's managed to get a MOTM vote on the back of that.

[pete0]

1 hour ago, Shukes said:

No I’m not. As a footballer, sometimes you just don’t have it your way, shots go wide ect.

Playing badly is not getting into positions to have those shots, not helping your team when needed, and not being involved in our only goal.

That first header should have been buried. The ball was perfect to the point all he had to do was keep his eyes on it but he ducks under it. It's amazing how many headed goals he has as he's one of the worse headerers (if that's a word) we've ever had up top. He helped waste the first chance too were his run is equally as bad as Gomes' decision to pass to him. 

I accept you won't score every chance but for me it should be 1 in 3. He's had 6 very good chances today and in general he's been missing sitters all season, far more than anyone else. He huffs and puffs until he's red in the face but a large amount is wasted due to his lack of football intelligence, poor runs and snapping at his shots. 

[Palfy]

7 minutes ago, Zoo 2.0 said:

Would Roy Keane have put up with that? Absolutely not. As much as I love Seamus he should have been right in the middle of that the second Richarlison grabbed the ball and dragged him away, put him on his arse with a smack around the face if need be I couldn't care less. The disrespect of Richarlison to take the free-kick when we've got Sigurdsson, Digne and James (who are all world-class with a dead ball) is astounding, not to mention that we were 0-0 at the time so badly needed the goal. I could almost understand it if we were cruising but I just don't get the mentality of doing it when we're locked at 0-0 (or even 1-0 up). The players, i.e. - Coleman should have dealt with that themselves rather than bowing down to Richarlison's demands and I fully expect Carlo to address the situation if he hasn't already. 

He has disrespected the his team-mates, Carlo and the club. Might sound like I'm going overboard but playing for Everton shouldn't be a jolly where you dick about for 90 minutes, take the odd free-kick here, twat a 40 yard volley for the cameras there. I'd die for the shirt and if I were on the pitch would recognise that there are better players around me to strike a dead ball, individuality is really not what's needed at 0-0 when we're chasing an open door that Chelsea and Spurs left open by dropping points themselves.

It's a bit like the West Brom game, Sigurdsson comes off the bench and tells Digne to get off the corner because he's the designated taker - he whips the ball in and we score. It's all ifs, buts and maybes but who knows whether we would have scored from that? It's why I find it utter laughable how he's managed to get a MOTM vote on the back of that.

Your not going over board these are the sort of actions that destroy team spirit, I wouldn’t pick Richarlison or Coleman for motm because of that incident. 

[Shukes]

1 minute ago, pete0 said:

That first header should have been buried. The ball was perfect to the point all he had to do was keep his eyes on it but he ducks under it. It's amazing how many headed goals he had as he's one of the worse headerers (if that's a word) we've ever had up top. He helped waste the first chance too were his run is equally as bad as Gomes' decision to pass to him. 

I accept you won't score every chance but for me it should be 1 in 3. He's had 6 very good chances today and in general he's been missing sitters all season, far more than anyone else. He huffs and puffs until he's red in the face but a large amount is wasted due to his lack of football intelligence, poor runs and snapping at his shots. 

I appreciate your opinion, but don’t agree with it mate.

Richarlison is actually pretty decent with his head, he scores a lot of headed goals.

He is also a focal point of our attack and is involved in a lot of goals. Like today for instance.

But I also agree he should have done much better with his chances today. Dom missed two even easier chances though and didn’t  offer much of anything else. 
While Richie defended well, ran his ass off and managed to have six chances on goal, and had a huge involvement in our solitary goal.... and that’s a bad game from him

[Shukes]

But we all have our views and this is the MoM thread. 
I’m not here to argue that anyone’s opinion is wrong, I can do that in other threads.

My vote is in, I’m fine if you don’t agree

[Palfy]

2 minutes ago, Shukes said:

But we all have our views and this is the MoM thread. 
I’m not here to argue that anyone’s opinion is wrong, I can do that in other threads.

My vote is in, I’m fine if you don’t agree

At first I thought you had mistaken it for mistake of the match

[Shukes]

4 minutes ago, Palfy said:

At first I thought you had mistaken it for mistake of the match

Can always count on you to have my back haha 

[Palfy]

3 minutes ago, Shukes said:

Can always count on you to have my back haha 

Just trying to lighten the mood mate before it got toxic, my way of watching your back mate, more than one way to skin a cat

[MC11]

41 minutes ago, Zoo 2.0 said:

Would Roy Keane have put up with that? Absolutely not. As much as I love Seamus he should have been right in the middle of that the second Richarlison grabbed the ball and dragged him away, put him on his arse with a smack around the face if need be I couldn't care less. The disrespect of Richarlison to take the free-kick when we've got Sigurdsson, Digne and James (who are all world-class with a dead ball) is astounding, not to mention that we were 0-0 at the time so badly needed the goal. I could almost understand it if we were cruising but I just don't get the mentality of doing it when we're locked at 0-0 (or even 1-0 up). The players, i.e. - Coleman should have dealt with that themselves rather than bowing down to Richarlison's demands and I fully expect Carlo to address the situation if he hasn't already. 

He has disrespected the his team-mates, Carlo and the club. Might sound like I'm going overboard but playing for Everton shouldn't be a jolly where you dick about for 90 minutes, take the odd free-kick here, twat a 40 yard volley for the cameras there. I'd die for the shirt and if I were on the pitch would recognise that there are better players around me to strike a dead ball, individuality is really not what's needed at 0-0 when we're chasing an open door that Chelsea and Spurs left open by dropping points themselves.

It's a bit like the West Brom game, Sigurdsson comes off the bench and tells Digne to get off the corner because he's the designated taker - he whips the ball in and we score. It's all ifs, buts and maybes but who knows whether we would have scored from that? It's why I find it utter laughable how he's managed to get a MOTM vote on the back of that.

Good on Richarlison for taking the free kick! After all he won it. What made it more acceptable was the commentator saying Sigurdsson had only scored 7 out of 70+ direct free kicks. Basically he’s crap at them and him being a set piece specialist is a myth. On what basis is Sigurdsson “world class” In dead ball situations? 
 

Please accept other people’s opinions. I too also think Richarlison had decent game. Yes he missed chances but he was far from the worst performer. 

[Zoo 2.0]

3 minutes ago, MC11 said:

Good on Richarlison for taking the free kick! After all he won it. What made it more acceptable was the commentator saying Sigurdsson had only scored 7 out of 70+ direct free kicks. Basically he’s crap at them and him being a set piece specialist is a myth. On what basis is Sigurdsson “world class” In dead ball situations? 
 

Please accept other people’s opinions. I too also think Richarlison had decent game. Yes he missed chances but he was far from the worst performer. 

So basically Gylfi scores around 10% of his free-kicks? Funny how that makes him crap at them when the world's best, Lionel Messi has a conversion rate of 17.8% which is just 7.8% great than Sigurdsson, unless of course you believe that Messi is crap at them too? 

"Good on Richarlison for taking the free-kick, he won it after all" . Will do well to hear a shitter statement on this forum in 2021, basically in your opinion if Michael Keane or Mason Holgate go up for a corner, win a free-kick on the edge of the box they should take it ahead of the likes of Gylfi, Digne and James? Course they shouldn't. Stop posting shite. 

[Romey 1878]

3 hours ago, MC11 said:

Good on Richarlison for taking the free kick! After all he won it. What made it more acceptable was the commentator saying Sigurdsson had only scored 7 out of 70+ direct free kicks. Basically he’s crap at them and him being a set piece specialist is a myth. On what basis is Sigurdsson “world class” In dead ball situations? 
 

Please accept other people’s opinions. I too also think Richarlison had decent game. Yes he missed chances but he was far from the worst performer. 

He hasn’t scored a single one for us in a competitive game, he usually smashes it into the wall. 
 

Edit - And by “he”, I mean Sigurdsson. 

[MC11]

2 minutes ago, Zoo 2.0 said:

So basically Gylfi scores around 10% of his free-kicks? Funny how that makes him crap at them when the world's best, Lionel Messi has a conversion rate of 17.8% which is just 7.8% great than Sigurdsson, unless of course you believe that Messi is crap at them too? 

"Good on Richarlison for taking the free-kick, he won it after all" . Will do well to hear a shitter statement on this forum in 2021, basically in your opinion if Michael Keane or Mason Holgate go up for a corner, win a free-kick on the edge of the box they should take it ahead of the likes of Gylfi, Digne and James? Course they shouldn't. Stop posting shite. 

Yes 7 from 70+ attempts is poor pal very poor and I’m sick of seeing him on the end of our free kicks. His conversion rate is terrible. 

What the hell are you going on about with the last paragraph? Sorry no that’s not my opinion at all. That’s something you’ve made up.
 

 

[Gwlad]

No vote but I think Ben gave it a shot for the last 15 minutes, like always he wanted a result.

[Btay]

3 hours ago, Palfy said:

Ancelotti has to deal with this and not let the players deal with it on his behalf, in my eyes he has shown disrespect to the manager and his team mates, but what gets me is the weakness of Coleman the Captain standing twenty yards away and doing F all about it, he should have been straight over there and pulling rank on the situation. 

Coleman had a good game as a player but as captain that moment was as bad as the strikers missing their chances. We lack real leaders. We need a centre back who is a real leader and Coleman whilst I love him needs to be stronger there.

James gets the vote for his moment of magic.

[Wiggytop]

Coleman gets my vote. Agree on his lack of captaincy on the free kick, other than that good game, just wish he would have had a pop at goal on a couple of occasions.

[Matt]

We all know Richarlison can produce moments of magic, so I can completely understand Coleman not getting involved. If it’d gone in, would we be praising his good captain skills? Nonsense argument for me.