Fosse Captain Posted July 4, 2023 Report Share Posted July 4, 2023 Has to be a structured deal surely. I'd like to say I trust the clubs judgement but we did buy Tosun, Bolasie, Walcott et al for similar type fees and look how they worked out Hopefully due diligence has been done and he turns into a belting signing if true Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chicagoblue Posted July 4, 2023 Report Share Posted July 4, 2023 I put no weight in us having made a 40m offer. Sure that's his release clause, but we'll be coming in much lower than that. Bailey and Palfy 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted July 5, 2023 Report Share Posted July 5, 2023 9 hours ago, chicagoblue said: I put no weight in us having made a 40m offer. Sure that's his release clause, but we'll be coming in much lower than that. That was my thought too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palfy Posted July 5, 2023 Report Share Posted July 5, 2023 10 hours ago, chicagoblue said: I put no weight in us having made a 40m offer. Sure that's his release clause, but we'll be coming in much lower than that. I would like to think that that would be the case. I have also read that our offer was for the full amount paid in 3-4 stages, this however would not trigger his release clause as the amount would have to be paid in full for that to happen. Like any signing it’s a gamble and with the way our current finances are €40m seems far to much of a gamble for a young prospect. Gwlad 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted July 5, 2023 Report Share Posted July 5, 2023 Looks fast, powerful, a bit raw. Pretty much like a young Lukaku. By all accounts he has a high work rate which would be something that ticks a big box as we seen with dcl when he came back in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palfy Posted July 5, 2023 Report Share Posted July 5, 2023 6 minutes ago, Hafnia said: Looks fast, powerful, a bit raw. Pretty much like a young Lukaku. By all accounts he has a high work rate which would be something that ticks a big box as we seen with dcl when he came back in. If he’s anything like Lukaku Haf he’s toast before he starts Hafnia 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goodison Glory Posted July 5, 2023 Report Share Posted July 5, 2023 Surely for 40M it would be better to get the lad from Coventry (or similar) and also a 20M <insert position> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted July 5, 2023 Report Share Posted July 5, 2023 2 hours ago, Goodison Glory said: Surely for 40M it would be better to get the lad from Coventry (or similar) and also a 20M <insert position> He looks like he's on his way to Sporting Lisbon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted July 5, 2023 Report Share Posted July 5, 2023 5 hours ago, Palfy said: If he’s anything like Lukaku Haf he’s toast before he starts Notice I added the work rate element…. Very important! Palfy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cornish Steve Posted July 5, 2023 Report Share Posted July 5, 2023 8 hours ago, Palfy said: I would like to think that that would be the case. I have also read that our offer was for the full amount paid in 3-4 stages, this however would not trigger his release clause as the amount would have to be paid in full for that to happen. Like any signing it’s a gamble and with the way our current finances are €40m seems far to much of a gamble for a young prospect. You know, I'm still OK with taking some risk. For sure, we've taken the risk on too many players in the past that were a huge disappointment, but, as they say, no risk no reward. What matters are two things: learning the lessons of why previous risk-taking failed and doing all the right due diligence. If we were sure someone would be a success, their asking price would be double what it is. What's the alternative: chasing average players? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chicagoblue Posted July 5, 2023 Report Share Posted July 5, 2023 Doubt any of us on here have watched hiim play full matches for Almeria and so we're relying on youtube clips etc (happy to be corrected on that and would love to know what people think who've watched him closely). Someone above said it and I agree, RAW, is the key word. Does seem to have the strength and power. Has some football skills too, but does not to me look anywhere near Premier League ready. Touch is loose, passes are mist hit, makes odd choices. Could he get to where we'd need? Yeah, maybe. Can we spend most of our transfer budget and rely on him to be No. 1 in place of Dom, not a chance. Matt Tiger, dunlopp9987 and Palfy 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palfy Posted July 5, 2023 Report Share Posted July 5, 2023 1 hour ago, Cornish Steve said: You know, I'm still OK with taking some risk. For sure, we've taken the risk on too many players in the past that were a huge disappointment, but, as they say, no risk no reward. What matters are two things: learning the lessons of why previous risk-taking failed and doing all the right due diligence. If we were sure someone would be a success, their asking price would be double what it is. What's the alternative: chasing average players? I agree with you on no risk no gain principles. Yet I don’t see him as an above average but no one is paying me for my input or scouting abilities or lack of. I think we are team made up of 3-4 average players 1 world class and the rest below average to poor. The likes of Brentford, Villa, Palace, Fulham ect are made up mostly average with a view below average players yet still left us mile’s behind in performances and league position, I think I would rather for the money they want for him get 2 average players to replace a couple of our poor players that have PL experience than throw the bank book at a very young as yet unproven talent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevO Posted July 5, 2023 Report Share Posted July 5, 2023 Is no one going to post his highlight reel in here? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted July 5, 2023 Report Share Posted July 5, 2023 3 minutes ago, StevO said: Is no one going to post his highlight reel in here? I vote Palfy has to do it. Palfy, Matt and StevO 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted July 5, 2023 Report Share Posted July 5, 2023 I have watched back a dozen of the highlights of the games he played in for Almeria last season and you barely see him. In one game he scores a header but it comes off his shoulder and goes in the other corner, albeit after some really sharp movement. Another he scores a tap in as the defender heads it past the onrushing keeper but at the other end he is out late from a corner playing everyone onside. His genuine defensive effort in one video looked pretty apathetic. The best of footage about him that I could find comes in their game against Barcelona where he lays off a long ball and spins in behind using his pace before applying a powerful finish high into the goal. He also showed a bit of aptitude for defending in the sense that he showed it isn't an alien concept to him as it is to some attackers. All in all, you would really expect to see a lot more involvement in the game for a guy valued at £40m. He has no involvement in any of the other goals I saw them score which I found really unusual. Slightly in his defence, the team he plays for are absolutely garbage and they did well to not get relegated. I would back them to struggle in the Championship. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goodison Glory Posted July 6, 2023 Report Share Posted July 6, 2023 11 hours ago, Romey 1878 said: He looks like he's on his way to Sporting Lisbon. That's why I wrote or similar. The point was really 2 x 20M payers vs 1 unproven 40M player with very little experience. Matt Tiger 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palfy Posted July 6, 2023 Report Share Posted July 6, 2023 6 hours ago, Romey 1878 said: I vote Palfy has to do it. Mike I’ve emailed you something could you post it for me please mate. Thanks. Matt and Romey 1878 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted July 8, 2023 Report Share Posted July 8, 2023 Could be on his way to Atalanta. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c1982 Posted July 9, 2023 Author Report Share Posted July 9, 2023 On 08/07/2023 at 13:39, Romey 1878 said: Could be on his way to Atalanta. For half the price we (didn’t) bid… so many non-stories about. I hate it but it’s so moreish!!! Romey 1878 and chicagoblue 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncanmckenzieismagic Posted July 10, 2023 Report Share Posted July 10, 2023 https://www.goodisonnews.com/2023/07/10/everton-surprise-almeria-with-loan-to-buy-el-bilal-toure-transfer-offer/ Matt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c1982 Posted July 10, 2023 Author Report Share Posted July 10, 2023 I’d love us to get Bilal and Ballo Toure just so we can recreate the Yaya and Kolo Toure song. StevO 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncanmckenzieismagic Posted July 13, 2023 Report Share Posted July 13, 2023 https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/everton-transfer-news-elbilal-toure-30461610 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncanmckenzieismagic Posted July 15, 2023 Report Share Posted July 15, 2023 http://sportwitness.co.uk/club-expecting-everton-raise-bid-player-transfer-anticipated-happen-soon/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted July 23, 2023 Report Share Posted July 23, 2023 I’m glad the deal for a striker we’ve been working on is for someone with potential like this and not utter garbage like Iheanacho. Btay, Palfy and Tonsta 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palfy Posted July 23, 2023 Report Share Posted July 23, 2023 24 minutes ago, Romey 1878 said: I’m glad the deal for a striker we’ve been working on is for someone with potential like this and not utter garbage like Iheanacho. Just hope we get the price right and don’t go throwing millions at a someone who is relatively green and inexperienced, but he’s definitely worth a shot at the right price. Matt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RuffRob Posted July 24, 2023 Report Share Posted July 24, 2023 I can't say I know a great deal about him, but must be highly rated at the fees being discussed. All for buying quality young players, especially when we have already signed Danjuma for the season. Means that there is not too much pressure on young players coming to a new league. These types should always be considered as a plan B ( impact subs, cover injury/suspensions, cup games), in the hope they develop in to Plan A players. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevO Posted July 24, 2023 Report Share Posted July 24, 2023 When we have a plan A we can worry about plan B. Romey 1878, Newty82, Matt and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palfy Posted July 24, 2023 Report Share Posted July 24, 2023 1 hour ago, RuffRob said: I can't say I know a great deal about him, but must be highly rated at the fees being discussed. All for buying quality young players, especially when we have already signed Danjuma for the season. Means that there is not too much pressure on young players coming to a new league. These types should always be considered as a plan B ( impact subs, cover injury/suspensions, cup games), in the hope they develop in to Plan A players. Toure has a very high opinion of himself which is good thing you want players who believe in themselves and are full of confidence. He has a few decent clubs showing interest in him which is also a good thing. Considering these points I don’t see a player who will be signing for anyone to become a plan B bit part player. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Popular Post dunlopp9987 Posted July 24, 2023 Popular Post Report Share Posted July 24, 2023 9 minutes ago, duncanmckenzieismagic said: How DARE he prefer to move to a club that isn't a shit show. Incredibly selfish. Shukes, Palfy, msloan78 and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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