Sir McGiven Posted April 20, 2018 Report Share Posted April 20, 2018 37 minutes ago, MikeO said: Hopefully that statement will come back and haunt you as much as this one. United that day, Schmeichel, Neville, Parker, Pallister (O'Kane 59), Irwin, P. Neville (Beckham 45), Keane, Scholes, Butt, Sharpe, McClair I don't know who this man is but such an unlucky comment at the end haha. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevO Posted April 20, 2018 Report Share Posted April 20, 2018 Haha I think you know me well enough Mike, I’d be made up to be wrong. If Kieran Dowell is holding the premier league trophy above his head at Goodison Park I’ll be the happiest bloke you’ll find anywhere! MikeO 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted April 20, 2018 Report Share Posted April 20, 2018 47 minutes ago, Sir McGiven said: I don't know who this man is but such an unlucky comment at the end haha. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alan_Hansen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted April 20, 2018 Report Share Posted April 20, 2018 I agree with StevO because at the moment only 1 of them has proven that they are above average in the Premier League and that is Davies. I can see Kenny havin a future at the club, and possibly DCL but that's it based on Evertonidence thus far. Matt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir McGiven Posted April 20, 2018 Report Share Posted April 20, 2018 4 hours ago, MikeO said: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alan_Hansen now I see, he is red. it tells everything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nogs Posted April 21, 2018 Report Share Posted April 21, 2018 13 hours ago, StevO said: Haha I think you know me well enough Mike, I’d be made up to be wrong. If Kieran Dowell is holding the premier league trophy above his head at Goodison Park I’ll be the happiest bloke you’ll find anywhere! Unless he's wearing a red shirt while he does it... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted April 21, 2018 Report Share Posted April 21, 2018 12 hours ago, Bailey said: that's it based on Evertonidence thus far. You invented a new word. Matt and Bailey 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shukes Posted April 21, 2018 Report Share Posted April 21, 2018 3 hours ago, MikeO said: You invented a new word. I was impressed by that as well haha! Matt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted April 21, 2018 Report Share Posted April 21, 2018 Going back to this topic regarding our kids coming through, it will be a difficult decision for whoever is manager next season because they will have to weigh up who starts, who stats in the first team squad, and then who gets loaned out or sold. Since Bobby left, our managers have been "First Team" Managers rather than managers of the club and I think that has been to our detriment. I think you can consider Davies as a first team player and based on what we know of the other midfielders, I would like to bring in 2 other centre midfielders to play alongside/behind him rather than replace him. That leaves DCL, Kenny, Dowell, Lookman as the 4 other players in that WC squad who are looking for a future here. Kenny is the simple one. Ideally he could do with playing games but he has shown enough this season to say he is at the very least a good back up to our main RB. Coleman is the only man ahead of him and if he gets injured, Kenny can slot in easily as well as play in rotation whenever required. He can also cover LB. Verdict: Stay on the bench DCL is a very difficult one to weigh up. The first thing to consider is whether he is good enough to lead the line for us (assuming a new manager can help create some more chances for him). I don't think we know the answer to that question just yet. He has a good all round game but struggles to score and as I have said somewhere else, I think he needs to go away somewhere and put the ball in the back of the net, maybe to a top Championship side. The question for the manager is then whether you bring someone else in whilst he is on loan because you don't want to have to rely on Niasse on his own. Walcott can play as a striker I suppose but its awkward. If DCL is going to be the player we want him to be then he needs to play games and score goals. Verdict: Loan Dowell could do with a Martinez type manager who places their faith in him and backs him through preseason and starts him in that first game. This is what I mean in my first paragraph because Martinez realised that if we wanted to get the best out of Barkley then he needed to be played in his best position and trusted to perform. Ultimately, that would benefit Everton both on the pitch and financially (well we should have made a lot of money on him). When you look at Dowell's career you can see a very similar progression, different players, but they both have this air of distrust about them as well as the expectation that they can do something that most others cant. Like Barkley though, Dowell needs to play more and more games, he needs to toughen up and get his hands dirty so if he isnt trusted to start each week then let him go back out on loan. Dowell can play wide or centrally. I think he is probably best as a number 10 which means he is competing with a lot of players like Siggy, Klaassen, Davies plus any of the wingers. I dont see how he will play enough games. Verdict: Loan Lookman is more difficult because at the moment I still haven't seen enough to really say whether he has a future here. He certainly has something but its just whether he can show it at the highest level. The players ahead of him are Walcott, Bolasie and Vlasic. He has played lower league football so he needs to be tested at this level over learning his trade so I would having him fighting for a starting spot against Vlasic and Bolasie to play opposite Walcott. I see no reason why him and Vlasic could share the opposite wing depending on opponents / form. Verdict: Start / Bench StevO, plaidharper, Matt and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shukes Posted April 21, 2018 Report Share Posted April 21, 2018 Agree with your write up other than Vlasic ahead of Lookman. Vlasic is very raw at the moment and needs games out on loan for me. Very enthusiastic without doing much. Lookman is a more rounded player already and for me... only needs the right manager to really kick on. Though I would be happy for them both to be fighting over that spot. Matt and nyblue23 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted April 21, 2018 Report Share Posted April 21, 2018 Incidentally Lookman played 90 minutes today and apparantly created more chances in the game than any single Everton player has created in a game (despite playing the 2nd half with 10 men as well). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete0 Posted April 21, 2018 Report Share Posted April 21, 2018 22 minutes ago, Bailey said: Incidentally Lookman played 90 minutes today and apparantly created more chances in the game than any single Everton player has created in a game (despite playing the 2nd half with 10 men as well). I watch a bit of that match. Didn't notice him much in the first half, RB down 3 nil and I never bothered with the second. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shukes Posted April 21, 2018 Report Share Posted April 21, 2018 I have tried to watch him whenever he’s played... missed today’s..... that’s why I seem to big him up so much. It could be more because I can see it’s what we’re missing here. Very comfortable receiving the ball, good pace, excellent power in his shooting. Only downside is that he hasn’t the enthusiasm that other youngsters have. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted April 22, 2018 Report Share Posted April 22, 2018 I've got a feeling he won't be here next season no matter who the manager is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted April 22, 2018 Report Share Posted April 22, 2018 3 hours ago, Romey 1878 said: I've got a feeling he won't be here next season no matter who the manager is. we paid 10m for him, he's still unproven, we'll want a good return, i doubt someone will pony up 20m for him. i think he will stay due to just numbers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sibdane Posted April 29, 2018 Report Share Posted April 29, 2018 Starting for Leipzig today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finn balor Posted April 29, 2018 Report Share Posted April 29, 2018 I think he will have another loan if sam stays. If he’s gone after a season he will be back. Could do with a year in the prem playing regularly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plaidharper Posted May 5, 2018 Report Share Posted May 5, 2018 Scored a brace today... really hope we hold onto him... Sibdane 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
London Blue Posted May 5, 2018 Report Share Posted May 5, 2018 14 minutes ago, plaidharper said: Scored a brace today... really hope we hold onto him... https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/44017650 Just hope he gets a chance to get regular football here next season, under a manager who knows how to use him. The young man has so much talent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shukes Posted May 5, 2018 Report Share Posted May 5, 2018 He will go if a stays I think. Why would any young talent stay here under him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rubecula Posted May 5, 2018 Report Share Posted May 5, 2018 4 minutes ago, Shukes said: He will go if Sam stays I think. Why would any young talent stay here under him. agreed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted May 5, 2018 Report Share Posted May 5, 2018 10 minutes ago, Shukes said: He will go if a stays I think. Why would any young talent stay here under him. Because he has a contract and it's not his decision if he stays or goes? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shukes Posted May 5, 2018 Report Share Posted May 5, 2018 1 minute ago, MikeO said: Because he has a contract and it's not his decision if he stays or goes? Just like thousands of players over the years. Did Rom run his contract down? You know that if a player wants to go, he will go regardless of the clubs decision. Very rarely does a club did its heels in and come off better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted May 5, 2018 Report Share Posted May 5, 2018 2 minutes ago, Shukes said: Just like thousands of players over the years. Did Rom run his contract down? You know that if a player wants to go, he will go regardless of the clubs decision. Very rarely does a club did its heels in and come off better. Still the club's decision though ultimately, Suarez at Liverpool for example; Modric, Tevez, Mahrez are others. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shukes Posted May 5, 2018 Report Share Posted May 5, 2018 As I said MikeO, rarely. I hope your eight and we decide his future. I just think that if a choice is offered to him and Sam is still here.... he’ll decide his future lies elsewhere. Still hope your right as I rate him highly. Quinn31 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted May 5, 2018 Report Share Posted May 5, 2018 Like I’ve saud before; my feeling is he’ll leave in the summer regardless of who the manager is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted May 8, 2018 Report Share Posted May 8, 2018 https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/ademola-lookmans-future-could-depend-14624599 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Cornish Steve Posted May 10, 2018 Popular Post Report Share Posted May 10, 2018 One of our World Cup winners: There's absolutely no way we should release him. We'd be total fools. nyblue23, Shukes, barryj and 4 others 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted May 12, 2018 Report Share Posted May 12, 2018 Played another hour and scored another goal today. You have got to give it to the kid, he is trying his best to make the most of the opportunities given to him. I expect we will see a far more complete player when he returns. Shukes and Matt 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted May 12, 2018 Report Share Posted May 12, 2018 10 minutes ago, Bailey said: Played another hour and scored another goal today. You have got to give it to the kid, he is trying his best to make the most of the opportunities given to him. I expect we will see a far more complete player when he returns. What a mistake it’s turned out to be for him, should’ve listened to fat head Matt, Shukes and Bailey 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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