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A decent CEO anyone has to be better than the tanned knobhead 

Brands or someone similar who will overhaul our whole set up as DOF

Push Walsh back into being a cheif scout under the supervision of Brands etc and bring in a competent non archaic manger like Fonseca 

I've mentioned players and we rarely target who most of us would want so as long as the above happens the rest "should" fall into place 

 

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1 hour ago, markjazzbassist said:

a competent new manager would give all those players Shukes listed a solid pre-season or more to assess them and the rest of the squad in my opinion.  i honestly don't think we need a lot, LB to replace baines and get rid of some players who want out.

Our recruitment has been dreadful for 2 years. We haven't got a squad anywhere near capable of competing for the top 6, or likely to win a domestic cup. To me that means we need considerable change. 

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2 minutes ago, nogs said:

Our recruitment has been dreadful for 2 years. We haven't got a squad anywhere near capable of competing for the top 6, or likely to win a domestic cup. To me that means we need considerable change. 

the reason we had such a rough start and canned koeman was too much change and overhaul.  it would be idiotic to repeat the same action and expect a different result.

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16 hours ago, Cornish Steve said:

We need only one clear-out, and that's of the manager and his assistants. Honestly, I don't believe we need wholesale changes among the players. There's a lot of talent there, especially young talent.

First, we need a team spine. That's Pickford, ANO, McCarthy, and Tosun. The ANO in this case is a key buy: a hard-nosed defender that's something of a young Vincent Kompany. Ashley WIlliams was supposed to be that person, but he needs shipping out.

Next, we need wide men. Coleman is still putting in a shift (with Kenny as backup), but Baines is sadly fading fast - so a younger replacement is needed there. Bolasie needs to go, and I'm not convinced of Walcott either. We don't need to buy, though: Lookman and Vlasic should be trusted and given their chance. So, in this area, we need a talented LB.

Backup keeper? I'd like to see Robles given a chance to become #1 elsewhere; he deserves it. Let's bring through one of our own as backup to Pickford. Who else in defence? It's difficult to know whether Funes Mori will recover completely from his injury, especially mentally, but I think we've been unfair on Holgate this season: He deserves his chance. Keane will be just fine with a different manager and a mentor beside him. It's a good time for Jagielka to join Baines in retirement.

In midfield? My vote is for Davies, Klaassen (who I believe will soon become a leader if we give him the chance), Baningime, Dowling, and Sigurdsson. I'm not convinced of Gueye, to be frank, but there's talent there. I would keep Besic, although he'll want to stay with Boro if they are promoted.

Up front, we need to invest in a proven goalscorer. Keep Niasse as super-sub, bring through Onyekuru, and loan out DC-L. 

Who should go? Many candidates are obvious: Mirallas, Williams, Schneiderlin, Martina, Mangala, Stekelenburg, Garbutt, Tarashaj, and (sadly) Rooney. I'd make the latter an assistant coach.

So, what do we need? A dominant CB, a replacement for Baines, and a proven goalscorer. Investing wisely in these three positions - together with a new manager - would make the world of difference. Finally, keep investing in young talent for the U-23s.

I look at this squad and I can't see how they are good enough to start competing with the top 6 and winning cups. Based on what we have seen this season, taking into account fitness I can only say that Pickford, Siggurdson, Coleman, Tosun and Walcott are at the level we need and in truth the jury is still somewhat out on the later depending on how focused he is. Davies is just about there too and McCarthy would be if he was fit but that's it.

There are a few players in the squad that might be at that level because they are improving  (Lookman/Vlasic/Kenny etc), could settle in under a new manager (Klaassen/Sandro etc) or might stave off decline for another season (Jags/Baines) but it's unlikely that those players will be at that level all season. Some will dovetail with each other,  some will peak and trough and managing that might ultimately determine how we do but player by player there aren' many I can say are at the level we need them to be. We need to have a 3-5 year vision for this squad so those the wrong side of 30 all need to be replaced soon.

3 minutes ago, Newty82 said:

A lot going on once this season is finished. New CEO. Potential new DoF. Potential new Manager.

All I ask is that it is planned and executed properly.

No more cock ups. Get us back on track, looking forward again. That would mean more to me than any (most!) player transfers.

That hits the nail on the head.

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3 hours ago, Quinn31 said:

Would take Charlie Austin from Southampton if they went down, though he is probably too much of a like for like with Tosun. We could use a center-forward with some pace and dribbling ability (Niasse lacking the dribbling bit).

Signing a competent centerback and a replacement for Baines are the most important transfers of the summer. Think both Baines and Jags will be in the squad for at least one more year though, though we can't rely on either. I thought Holgate looked composed, so I'd like to see Williams move on and maybe Funes Mori.

Convincing Lookman to stay is crucial, and Vlasic will need to be evaluated in the summer - I've not sure he's earned "a shot". Would love to move on Bolasie though and wouldn't rule out buying a winger. 

Joel Robles needs to leave the club for the sake of his own career and we need to bring in another backup - Stek could hang for another year since he's at the stage of his career where being cover isn'ttt a bad thing.

Besic should leave also for his own career. Too many managers have not rated him for him to stay as 5th or 6th central midfielder - if this loan spell has kicked the dust off his game, then let him fight for his chance.

 

Steve - who is Dowling? Also think Onyekuru is having continued work permit issues. Not sure he'll ever wear our shirt.

I meant Dowell. Sorry. 

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15 minutes ago, Bailey said:

I look at this squad and I can't see how they are good enough to start competing with the top 6 and winning cups. Based on what we have seen this season, taking into account fitness I can only say that Pickford, Siggurdson, Coleman, Tosun and Walcott are at the level we need and in truth the jury is still somewhat out on the later depending on how focused he is. Davies is just about there too and McCarthy would be if he was fit but that's it.

There are a few players in the squad that might be at that level because they are improving  (Lookman/Vlasic/Kenny etc), could settle in under a new manager (Klaassen/Sandro etc) or might stave off decline for another season (Jags/Baines) but it's unlikely that those players will be at that level all season. Some will dovetail with each other,  some will peak and trough and managing that might ultimately determine how we do but player by player there aren' many I can say are at the level we need them to be. We need to have a 3-5 year vision for this squad so those the wrong side of 30 all need to be replaced soon.

That hits the nail on the head.

based on what?  being a blue?  he's been awful this year full stop.

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7 minutes ago, MikeO said:

But you still have him in your avatar:P.

yeah i want the best for him and am practically wishing him to come good but i'm not blinding by him being a homegrown player.  i'm being objective about his season.  i want nothing more than worldie davies, truly.  just sadly he's way off that.  hence my wondering which davies bailey is watching, maybe the one for spurs.

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15 minutes ago, markjazzbassist said:

based on what?  being a blue?  he's been awful this year full stop.

He has been our best midfielder by far this season. It's not exactly hard but he is the closest one. If he had to play the whole of next season, it wouldn't worry me. 

36 minutes ago, markjazzbassist said:

the reason we had such a rough start and canned koeman was too much change and overhaul.  it would be idiotic to repeat the same action and expect a different result.

Thats far too simplistic. Whilst I don' necessarily disagree with it being a part of our problems this season, how many have actually played any regular football? Most of the season it's been the same old faces and in the second half of the season, where we have just about been better, we have played more new players than we did when we were really bad. 

I think we need to try and get back to the Moyes way of 1 or 2 out and 3 or 4 in but this time selling the deadwood rather than our best players.

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1 minute ago, Bailey said:

He has been our best midfielder by far this season. It's not exactly hard but he is the closest one. If he had to play the whole of next season, it wouldn't worry me. 

Thats far too simplistic. Whilst I don' necessarily disagree with it being a part of our problems this season, how many have actually played any regular football? Most of the season it's been the same old faces and in the second half of the season, where we have just about been better, we have played more new players than we did when we were really bad. 

I think we need to try and get back to the Moyes way of 1 or 2 out and 3 or 4 in but this time selling the deadwood rather than our best players.

wow, we all truly do see the game differently.  he's looked completely lost and gone missing in all but maybe 2 games that i can remember.  little to no impact.  i was ready to crown him king of goodison after last year (lookman too) but both were well off it this year for me.  lookman's done ok in germany but that's a weak league.  i hope a new setup will rejuvenate everyone and well get the davies of his first year, i really do.

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I can’t see how Davies has been our best midfielder. I’ve been dissapointed with him but I think it’s not just him. He will come good in the long run. It would have been nice to see him and Barkley build a solid scouse midfield but it wasn’t to be. We need a clear out. I’m not a great watcher of European football but just on clubs going down I’d be all over ward prowse at Southampton. 

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7 minutes ago, Finn balor said:

I can’t see how Davies has been our best midfielder. I’ve been dissapointed with him but I think it’s not just him. He will come good in the long run. It would have been nice to see him and Barkley build a solid scouse midfield but it wasn’t to be. We need a clear out. I’m not a great watcher of European football but just on clubs going down I’d be all over ward prowse at Southampton. 

Who has been better? 

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1 hour ago, Cornish Steve said:

I meant Dowell. Sorry. 

Will be interesting to see if he gets a go here - not sure we need another 10 if we keep Klaassen. If Klaassen goes, I would worry about depth at 10 behind Gylfi. 

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I love the fact he's a homegrown blue but that aside I'm not sold on the lad tbh 

Plods through the majority of most games doing very little and goes missing far to often 

Decent enough young player but I just don't see the potential for much growth, he'll end up a similar type to Ward Prowse in time imo and he's not the type of player you'd want in a side looking to improve

Bench player for me 

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3 minutes ago, c1982 said:

Gana has been more consistent, Gylfi has been the stand-out midfielder in my opinion and I’d say Rooney has had more important performances than Davies. I’ve been disappointed with Davies this season but am not writing him off because I’m still a big fan.

agreed.

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4 hours ago, markjazzbassist said:

wow, we all truly do see the game differently.  he's looked completely lost and gone missing in all but maybe 2 games that i can remember.  little to no impact.  i was ready to crown him king of goodison after last year (lookman too) but both were well off it this year for me.  lookman's done ok in germany but that's a weak league.  i hope a new setup will rejuvenate everyone and well get the davies of his first year, i really do.

Our best midfielder this season has been Rooney. Sums it all up in my opinion. 

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4 hours ago, 12ubb3rduck3y said:

Our best midfielder this season has been Rooney. Sums it all up in my opinion. 

The same Rooney who 90% of this forum are of the opinion that  ...  His Legs have gone and he's too slow .... He loses or gives the ball away too often .... Is on mega money and is a very expensive cheerleader. (Haf) 

I can't agree with your post, one decent game in every five didn't add up to our  "best midfielder".

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15 hours ago, markjazzbassist said:

the reason we had such a rough start and canned koeman was too much change and overhaul.  it would be idiotic to repeat the same action and expect a different result.

It's not idiotic to replace players who are not good enough. It wasnt too much change that got us in the shit, it was signing poor players and being led by a poor manager. 

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First off Sig has been our best midfielder this season, started slow but then showed what a good asset he is with the goals and assists.

 

Secondly the first change has to be the Management staff. Bin them all off. Second of all bin Elstone and Kenwright off. Throw Steve Walsh out whilst we are at it. bring the fella from PSV in and hire a manager who isn'tt anything like chippy tits.

 

In terms of players, it will all depend of the style and formation of football the manager we have next season plays. The left side of our team needs improving so that should be the main focus. LB, left footed CB, LW. Another striker wouldn't be too bad either. I'd say only 5 first teamers will be needed. we don't want too many players and making the squad unbalanced again.

 

As for the outs I expect to see Robles, Steks, Garbutt, Besic, Browning, Galloway, Pennington and Mirallas all leave. I wouldn't be bothered (and on some hope) if Bolasie, Rooney, Mori, Niasse, Williams and Martina all left also. I'd send Beni, Dowell and Henry out on loan.

DCL I think could do with another season with us, if he doesn't kick on then a loan spell else where. Klassen needs to be given a chance but I think he might go. Jags I can see retiring. Baines will have one more season. Hopefully Lookman doesn't leave, vlassic needs another season. Keane with the right CB partnership could become good, next season is make or break for him. Morgan I think will leave but his recent "shop window" performances show he is good enough, as is Gana (most tackles in the prem this season again).

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14 hours ago, c1982 said:

Gana has been more consistent, Gylfi has been the stand-out midfielder in my opinion and I’d say Rooney has had more important performances than Davies. I’ve been disappointed with Davies this season but am not writing him off because I’m still a big fan.

I'd agree with Gylfi actually and in my OP I mentione he was clearly at the level we need. Davies therefore is best of the rest. 

I really don' agree with Gana. He has only been one rung above Schneiderlin in the poor man's stakes but I know people see him differentry, as they do Davies. He is a level above in terms of overall ability and at least Davies gives a shit. 

Rooney may have had a couple of big performances but his worst ones have been a level below that of Gana and Schneiderlin. I would only ever pick Rooney ahead of Davies in certain games, mainly easy games where he can control the game and play without any real pressure. Given that most games this season have been a struggle, Davies would definitely get the shout more often.

Davies has had a tough season but when we were at our lowest he was still the one getting through the work, dragging us up the pitch and putting in challenges.  Bar Siggy, he has by far the brightest future under a proper footballing manager.

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6 hours ago, Bailey said:

I'd agree with Gylfi actually and in my OP I mentione he was clearly at the level we need. Davies therefore is best of the rest. 

I really don' agree with Gana. He has only been one rung above Schneiderlin in the poor man's stakes but I know people see him differentry, as they do Davies. He is a level above in terms of overall ability and at least Davies gives a shit. 

Rooney may have had a couple of big performances but his worst ones have been a level below that of Gana and Schneiderlin. I would only ever pick Rooney ahead of Davies in certain games, mainly easy games where he can control the game and play without any real pressure. Given that most games this season have been a struggle, Davies would definitely get the shout more often.

Davies has had a tough season but when we were at our lowest he was still the one getting through the work, dragging us up the pitch and putting in challenges.  Bar Siggy, he has by far the brightest future under a proper footballing manager.

I don’t see him differently just for the record Bailey 👍😆

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20 hours ago, 12ubb3rduck3y said:

I’m not to fussed if we finish 8th again next season as long as it’s not as terrible to watch and we actually look like improving. 

This. I don't think there are a few signings in the world or a new manager that can take us to the 65-70 point mark and actually challenge the top 6 by the end of next season, but I would like to see a clear identity, plan, and players who buy into it and give everything through the shirt - whether it's through solidarity and midfield/defensive grit under Dyche, or attacking flair and creativity under Howe/Fonseca.

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Confidence is the key. At the end of the day it’s football. Good players or top players don’t need to know how each other play. They are just that good they can just play. We need a reboot. First eleven players brought in we have enough squad players. Mahrez would be a dream signing for me 

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                          Pickford

coleman      Holgate.   Smalling.      Tierney

                             Dacoure

walcott.        Gilfi.          Fred.         Lookman

                             Tosun

subs

keane,Baines,vlasic,gana,etc

we need a centre half I’ve put smalling in there but it could be Evans or a foreign centre back. Left back I would be happy with shaw or chilwell. Sell Morgan and bring in dacoure. Vlasic and lookman competing on the left and Fred as our number ten alongside gilfi. We need another goalscorer as back up for cenk. I’d have a proper clear out and just have a strong squad of 20-21 players

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23 minutes ago, Finn balor said:

                          Pickford

coleman      Holgate.   Smalling.      Tierney

                             Dacoure

walcott.        Gilfi.          Fred.         Lookman

                             Tosun

subs

keane,Baines,vlasic,gana,etc

we need a centre half I’ve put smalling in there but it could be Evans or a foreign centre back. Left back I would be happy with shaw or chilwell. Sell Morgan and bring in dacoure. Vlasic and lookman competing on the left and Fred as our number ten alongside gilfi. We need another goalscorer as back up for cenk. I’d have a proper clear out and just have a strong squad of 20-21 players

Smalling is absolutely terrible Keane given time and the right manager/cohesion will be fine 

Morgan shouldn't be sold on his day he's the level of player we should be aiming to add not flog, he had a poor patch as have most in this wank season bit he's picked it up of late 

Don't know much about Fred tbh and I do rate Dacoure I can see him being picked up by Spurs or Arsenal etc 

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Yeah I used smalling as an example, I forget about Lascelles at Newcastle. Smalling is a solid enough but is better in the air and has better positioning than Keane. Morgan is not a player you can rely on and if an offer comes in I would get rid 

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4 hours ago, EFC-Paul said:

Smalling is absolutely terrible Keane given time and the right manager/cohesion will be fine 

Morgan shouldn't be sold on his day he's the level of player we should be aiming to add not flog, he had a poor patch as have most in this wank season bit he's picked it up of late 

Don't know much about Fred tbh and I do rate Dacoure I can see him being picked up by Spurs or Arsenal etc 

We might as well let Allardyce stay as keep Keane and Schneiderlin. Keane is absolute wank, Schneiderlin has an attitude problem. He didn't just have a poor patch, he completely downed tools and put in some of the most insipid, disinterested performances I've ever seen from anyone in am Everton shirt. It was like Vinnie Samways all over again, but at least Samways had the good grace to say outright he couldn't be arsed playing. 

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1 hour ago, nogs said:

We might as well let Allardyce stay as keep Keane and Schneiderlin. Keane is absolute wank, Schneiderlin has an attitude problem. He didn't just have a poor patch, he completely downed tools and put in some of the most insipid, disinterested performances I've ever seen from anyone in am Everton shirt. It was like Vinnie Samways all over again, but at least Samways had the good grace to say outright he couldn't be arsed playing. 

I'm probably being naive on Keane, he did look absolutely shite today so I'll hold my hands up but Morgan is a quality player 

Anyway I couldn't really give a fuck about who stays and goes I said in this thread I want things sorting from top to bottom (CEO/DOF/Manager etc) and let them deal with the shite we've come accustomed too

Get that fat cunt Lardiola out first then hopefully things get a little better sharpish  

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23 minutes ago, EFC-Paul said:

I'm probably being naive on Keane, he did look absolutely shite today so I'll hold my hands up but Morgan is a quality player 

Anyway I couldn't really give a fuck about who stays and goes I said in the Transfer thread I want things sorting from top to bottom (CEO/DOF/Manager etc) and let them deal with the shite we've come accustomed too

Get that fat cunt Lardiola out first then hopefully things get a little better sharpish  

Yep couldn't agree more. 

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I actually don’t think we need a lot of players bringing in. We have a lot of talent not being used well. 

We could do with a centre half. A top quality midfielder always makes a difference to any side, even if we had great midfielders, if a better one is available get them in. 

We do need a striker, so many teams out there actually have options. Look at Southampton, almost went down but have Gabbiadini, Austin and Long. Ok not great players, but three different types of player who all have something to offer. 

We need a left back, if we can’t get a top quality one I’d rather bring in cover and have one more year of Baines. 

I’d love to see a winger with a left foot and pace come in, and see Vlasic and Lookman involved more. 

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                      Pickford

  coleman Holgate Mori Baines

                   Gana  Beni

          Walcott Gylfi Lookman

                       Tosun

                   

That's without any new additions.  Add a LB, CB, and Left Winger and that's it for me.  There's plenty of talent in there to get top 7 especially if the 3 we bring in are quality.  Squad of 23

gk - Pickford, stek

rb - Coleman, kenny

lb - baines, ????

Cb - holgate, ????

cb - mori, keane

dm - Gana, Beni, besic, Davies 

am - Gylfi, Klaassen

lw - lookman, ????

rw - Walcott, vlasic

f - Tosun, niasse, DCL

 

sell rooney mirallas morgan bolasie McCarthy Galloway browning Sandro Williams, send onyekuru dowell on loan.  Release robles, jags, and martina

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2 hours ago, markjazzbassist said:

                      Pickford

  coleman Holgate Mori Baines

                   Gana  Beni

          Walcott Gylfi Lookman

                       Tosun

                   

That's without any new additions.  Add a LB, CB, and Left Winger and that's it for me.  There's plenty of talent in there to get top 7 especially if the 3 we bring in are quality.  Squad of 23

gk - Pickford, stek

rb - Coleman, kenny

lb - baines, ????

Cb - holgate, ????

cb - mori, keane

dm - Gana, Beni, besic, Davies 

am - Gylfi, Klaassen

lw - lookman, ????

rw - Walcott, vlasic

f - Tosun, niasse, DCL

 

sell rooney mirallas morgan bolasie McCarthy Galloway browning Sandro Williams, send onyekuru dowell on loan.  Release robles, jags, and martina

If you still think we should be starting with two out and out defensively minded midfielders after the football we've played this season then I give up.

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1 minute ago, nogs said:

If you still think we should be starting with two out and out defensively minded midfielders after the football we've played this season then I give up.

i was simply making a lineup of our best available players.  it has no bearing on what lineup i think we should use.  if you have read any of my posts at all you will see i favor a single DCM ala barca's 433 or a 4141 or 4132 and favor attacking football.  but that's besides the point, the new manager will use whatever formation they like and that will be that.

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We just need to trim the squad and get back to the Moyes days of a solid eleven but players that can move around and make a difference. The big job is clearing out the dross and getting decent money for them. 

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Gk- Pickford/stek

rb - Coleman/kenny

lb - tierney/baines

rcb - holgate/lascelles

lcb - Evans/jags(Gibson)

def mid- gana/beni/dacoure or seri

mid - gilfi, klasssen,Fred,dowell

rm - vlasic/ walcott

lm - lookman/tadic 

cf - Tosun/Henry/martial 

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2 hours ago, markjazzbassist said:

i was simply making a lineup of our best available players.  it has no bearing on what lineup i think we should use.  if you have read any of my posts at all you will see i favor a single DCM ala barca's 433 or a 4141 or 4132 and favor attacking football.  but that's besides the point, the new manager will use whatever formation they like and that will be that.

You then say we only need a CB, LB and left winger, which suggests you'd be happy with a 'first choice' midfield of Gana, Sigurdsson and a completely unproven teenager, backed up by Davies, Besic and Klaassen. That is quite frankly a terrifying prospect. 

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So what should our priorities be for next season? Assuming we get a manager that wants to play aggressive and attacking football we are going to need some athletic and mobile footballers who are comfortable in 1 v 1 situations. Silva for example needs his players to make smart decisions about when to press and when to sit in position but they also need to be able to counter quickly and then get back into shape when the ball is lost. That pretty much rules out every midfield player we have bar Davies. It also means Baines wont really feature because he doesnt have the legs for it. Silva likes a clean sheet too, especially in his early days so do we have the defenders to do that? 

Its scary to think that we actually need big changes in our squad to get to where we need to be for a manager like Silva.

The players that fit:

Pickford

Coleman / Kenny

Jags (old but still very good 1 v 1)

Davies

Walcott

Lookman

Cenk

The players that dont fit:

Keane

Baines

Martina

Funes Mori

Schneiderlin

Rooney

The rest are all players who can do a job here and there or improve to be good enough. Williams is a good 1 v 1 defender but who knows what is left of him, Holgate could fit well if he is up to this level, same with Vlasic and DCL. Bolasie isnt good enough full stop. Siggy isnt necessarily guarenteed to suit that type of football (albeit I expect he will adapt and cope) and Klaassen may suit that type of play assuming he is good enough for the league, which is clearly in doubt. Dowell probably wont suit either because he lacks pace but there is some hope for Besic albeit my thoughts on him are clear.

Based on the above left back, centre back and centre mid must be prioritised. We have attacking options, not amazing ones, but they are ones that a new manager can get through until either January or even the following summer with. There are goals in Tosun, Walcott, Siggy, Lookman and even Niasse is needed. I would like another player who can pick a pass in midfield but that can be added later if Klaassen doesnt make the grade or if Siggy doesnt suit the system.

I dont know many players outside of the premiership that aren't already massive house hold names and cost millions upon millions, so I have looked at players that will fit currently in the EPL.

Left Back

The obvious option is Bertrand. He isnt anything special but he is a very solid player that wont cost the earth in fee or wages compared to Rose for example. My slight left field pick for left back is the new lad at Chelsea called Emerson. I have seen him a couple of times and both times he has impressed me. I might have just seen him in the two games he played his best but if they were his level then that is good enough for us. Given that Conte is off (well likely to be), they probably arent going to need the half dozen full backs they have. A new manager will probably go 4 at the back so it will be Azpilacueta plus one of Alonso / Moses / Zappacosta / Emerson. I'd expect he would be available on loan so we don't need to commit.

Centre Back

My two would be Ake and Zouma. Ake has everything to be a top class defender. He is a footballer, he is quick, he is good in the air and whilst he isnt perfect, he will get you out of problems. He has done well for Bournemouth again this season and that isnt an easy place to be a CB given both how they play, and also the players around him. He is left footed too.

Zouma has been a long term fan of mine. Big, strong and quick he looked the part at Chelsea before suffering a long term injury and after recovering he has been at Stoke. I dont claim to have watched a lot of stoke this season, mainly only the last quarter, but in each game he has left me with the impression that he is better than we have and good enough to be with a top 6 club.

A lot of people like Mawson/Duffy/Dunk/Tarkovski etc but I am not convinced by what I have seen. I think Ake and Zouma are already better players and have the potential to be on a completely different planet to them at the end of their careers.

Centre Mid

This is a bit more difficult to find someone in the league that has a bit of everything that isn'tt Kevin De Bruyne, Paul Pogba . If Silva comes in then Doucoure is the obvious pick. He did really well under Silva, showing that he has a bit of everything in his locker. I havent seen much of him in the second half of the season but he certainly made an early impression.

If Dembele is actually a possibility then he must be signed. I dont know if there is any way we could get him he would be absolutely perfect. Big money and big wages though so its not exactly a surprising suggestion.

Mooy has impressed me as the season has gone on. The more I watch Huddersfield the more I think it is basically him. He gets everywhere, he isnt spectacular, but he is just a no-nonsense player that has a bit of quality about him too. The ball he played against Chelsea was which led to the goal was inch perfect and he didnt have long to make the decision and execute the pass. That is the touch of a man with his head screwed on.

Another player falling into that category of a player that has impressed me the more the season has gone on is N'Diaye. I imagine one of our Turkish members would be able to say more about him but the bits I have seen of him suggest he can cover the ground, he likes a tackle, he seems a more than capable passer and he has shown in his career record that he can contribute with goals. He has played for Galatasaray so big games wont be a problem for him and even though he has arrived in England as part of a poor team he has been probably their best player. That shows someone with a bit of heart.

The next two are the lower end options. Diame has been really solid alongside Shelvey covering a lot of the ground allowing Shelvey to do the creating. He lacks the quality on the ball I would like but again he will give you a level of performance. The other is Herrera who I actually quite highly rate as a box to box player. I think he is underrated at United, or maybe misused. He doesnt really fall under the category of the type of physical presence I want, but I think he would be available and he is a far better footballer than we have in the side at the moment.

The last selection, doesnt fully fit the profile but he might do in a few years and that is Ruben Loftus-Cheek. I find him a bit frustrating, but he is a very talented footballer. I personally dont think he has the brain on him to be a be a dominating central midfielder, in exactly the same way Barkley isnt, but his talent is their to see. On a slightly side note, if we dont even try and get Zaha in this summer everyone should be sacked.

There will of course be a whole host of players across the world that will fit what we need but I just dont watch enough foreign football to know. The young CB at Ajax looks a player and Sanchez has made the switch ok, Gaya  looked handy for Valencia when I watched them and Guedes has been great whenever I have seen him too.

I think we do need a lot of changes but we cant do it in one window so I wouldnt expect a quick start from the new manager as he will have to go about replacing the back four and central midfield over what will hopefully be the duration of his first contract.

 

 

 

 

 

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Davies :lol: the lad would need to learn positional sense first and, right now, he’d need someone to draw him a map if he was to be able to find his own arse hole. Then he’d need to massively improve his passing as well. Oh and learn how to tackle. 

Honestly don’t see why anyone rates him to be honest - can’t pass, can’t tackle, not strong, not quick, not skilful, poor control, no positional awareness whatsoever, can’t shoot... the lad runs about a lot, I’ll give him that. 

Nothing more than a squad player for us unless he makes a dramatic improvement.

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Just now, Romey 1878 said:

Davies :lol: the lad would need to learn positional sense first and, right now, he’d need someone to draw him a map if he was to be able to find his own arse hole. Then he’d need to massively improve his passing as well. Oh and learn how to tackle. 

Honestly don’t see why anyone rates him to be honest - can’t pass, can’t tackle, not strong, not quick, not skilful, poor control, no positional awareness whatsoever, can’t shoot... the lad runs about a lot, I’ll give him that. 

Nothing more than a squad player for us unless he makes a dramatic improvement.

He looks lost and directionless to me. I think he can pass, can tackle, and is generally a good footballer and has far more positional awareness than he is given credit for. He is the one I see looking at team shape and not just ploughing head first into a challenge.

I appreciate I am giving him a chance because if he doesnt cut it next season then he probably never will but I would love to manage him and give him a better platform to perform as we have played possibly the worst type of football this season for an actual footballer.

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16 hours ago, Bailey said:

He looks lost and directionless to me. I think he can pass, can tackle, and is generally a good footballer and has far more positional awareness than he is given credit for. He is the one I see looking at team shape and not just ploughing head first into a challenge.

I appreciate I am giving him a chance because if he doesnt cut it next season then he probably never will but I would love to manage him and give him a better platform to perform as we have played possibly the worst type of football this season for an actual footballer.

Don’t get me wrong, Bailey, I’d absolutely love for him to prove me wrong and be a quality player. But I just don’t see it, he didn’t even impress me last season and I was never one that subscribed to him being anything special. 

I honestly see him only ever being a Tom Cleverley calibre player, and only then if he improves. Being a squad player is no bad thing though. 

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7 hours ago, Romey 1878 said:

Davies :lol: the lad would need to learn positional sense first and, right now, he’d need someone to draw him a map if he was to be able to find his own arse hole. Then he’d need to massively improve his passing as well. Oh and learn how to tackle. 

Honestly don’t see why anyone rates him to be honest - can’t pass, can’t tackle, not strong, not quick, not skilful, poor control, no positional awareness whatsoever, can’t shoot... the lad runs about a lot, I’ll give him that. 

Nothing more than a squad player for us unless he makes a dramatic improvement.

Glad someone else see's the plodding mediocrity as well 

Young lad with room to improve but he doesn't have anything in his armoury for me that would suggest he's good enough to be here long term 

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He has an infectious personality that can drive the team forward. He doesn't hide, even when things don't go his way. 

Let's see what Silva can do with him. Not ready to be first-choice but especially with Allardyce's style his positive attributes are totally wasted.

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5 minutes ago, StevO said:

Silva used Cleverley really well for the midfield transition, he may be able to get the same out of Davies? I hope we get to find out. 

It's also a big worry for me that he relied on two box to box midfielders when we don't have a single one. 

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Davies is nothing like Cleverley. Davies is absolutely not someone to rotate the ball around. The closest I think of in the current squad is Sigurdsson. But Silva has altered his tactics before. He's used 4-2-3-1 but also 4-3-3 and 4-1-4-1.

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20 minutes ago, Makis said:

Davies is nothing like Cleverley. Davies is absolutely not someone to rotate the ball around. The closest I think of in the current squad is Sigurdsson. But Silva has altered his tactics before. He's used 4-2-3-1 but also 4-3-3 and 4-1-4-1.

4231, 433, 4141, 451, all the same. Stop playing FIFA 😂

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13 hours ago, Romey 1878 said:

Davies :lol: the lad would need to learn positional sense first and, right now, he’d need someone to draw him a map if he was to be able to find his own arse hole. Then he’d need to massively improve his passing as well. Oh and learn how to tackle. 

Honestly don’t see why anyone rates him to be honest - can’t pass, can’t tackle, not strong, not quick, not skilful, poor control, no positional awareness whatsoever, can’t shoot... the lad runs about a lot, I’ll give him that. 

Nothing more than a squad player for us unless he makes a dramatic improvement.

Tell is how you really fell Romey!

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52 minutes ago, Makis said:

No wonder you think Davies is similar to Cleverly. 

Haha don’t think I said that though. Just that he could work in the transition like Cleverley did. 

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