Romey 1878 Posted November 3, 2018 Report Share Posted November 3, 2018 2 hours ago, Bill said: He's ruled himself out of Spurs, and Klopp has said he doesn't want him, he won't get into City, Chelsea, or United. Can you see him at West Ham. ? More likely to go abroad then. Matt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted November 3, 2018 Report Share Posted November 3, 2018 You would have either him or Gomes alongside a more defensive midfielder. If you dont you end up like the old Arsenal side under Wenger. I think he is best in that role but he can play as a 10 as well. I think he is a very talented player and he works hard. Like Gomes, for the right price I would love him here. barryj 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westlo Posted November 4, 2018 Report Share Posted November 4, 2018 He's a real talent that just doesn't fit into unai's arsenal and every other top 6 side..... Would be crazy not to have a go at bringing him here but he needs to be either playing in Siggy or Gomes spot to make it work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaron Posted November 5, 2018 Report Share Posted November 5, 2018 On 03/11/2018 at 15:08, Bill said: He's ruled himself out of Spurs, and Klopp has said he doesn't want him, he won't get into City, Chelsea, or United. Can you see him at West Ham. ? He'd walk into that United side. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Posted November 5, 2018 Report Share Posted November 5, 2018 38 minutes ago, aaron said: He'd walk into that United side. I'm not sure about that, I think he will go to one of the London clubs or abroad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sibdane Posted January 3, 2019 Report Share Posted January 3, 2019 Looks like he's going to Juventus. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paddock Posted January 10, 2019 Report Share Posted January 10, 2019 Agreed a contract with them- goes in the summer apparently. oh well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nyblue23 Posted August 11, 2020 Report Share Posted August 11, 2020 https://www.express.co.uk/sport/football/1321554/Aaron-Ramsey-Juventus-free-transfer-Everton-Arsenal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
London Blue Posted August 11, 2020 Report Share Posted August 11, 2020 NO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted August 11, 2020 Report Share Posted August 11, 2020 hell no this guy is always injured Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted August 12, 2020 Report Share Posted August 12, 2020 Very much a yes for me provided he’s on a pay as you play type deal Shukes 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Makis Posted August 12, 2020 Report Share Posted August 12, 2020 He gets 400kpw so even if he only plays half the games, that's still way too much. With his injury record there's no way we should sign him. markjazzbassist and chicagoblue 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted August 12, 2020 Report Share Posted August 12, 2020 23 minutes ago, Matt said: Very much a yes for me provided he’s on a pay as you play type deal That's not going to happen though, so you may as well say no. Chach and Bailey 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted August 12, 2020 Report Share Posted August 12, 2020 18 minutes ago, Romey 1878 said: That's not going to happen though, so you may as well say no. Where’s the optimism in that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted August 12, 2020 Report Share Posted August 12, 2020 Apparently he played 35 times last season, so the injury tag may not be justified. Although I can’t see how many as a sub vs starter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wiggytop Posted August 12, 2020 Report Share Posted August 12, 2020 27 minutes ago, Matt said: Apparently he played 35 times last season, so the injury tag may not be justified. Although I can’t see how many as a sub vs starter Son tells me 24 appearances, 11 starts, 3 goals 1 assist, 20 chances created, looks like your 35 is a combined figure. Its a no for me, to injury prone, unless he accepts a pay per play deal, so it ain’t gonna happen! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted August 12, 2020 Report Share Posted August 12, 2020 48 minutes ago, Wiggytop said: Son tells me 24 appearances, 11 starts, 3 goals 1 assist, 20 chances created, looks like your 35 is a combined figure. Its a no for me, to injury prone, unless he accepts a pay per play deal, so it ain’t gonna happen! Yeh, took combined because it shows the fuller picture (eg in CL). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevO Posted August 12, 2020 Report Share Posted August 12, 2020 A fit Ramsey would be a game changer for us. But his wages would be huge, and could he stay fit? 35 total appearances doesn’t seem like someone too injury prone, but may have just been a lucky run. I don’t see it happening anyway. barryj 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted August 12, 2020 Report Share Posted August 12, 2020 I wouldn't be against it if you could guarentee he would stay fit for most of the season, but you can't and we have plenty of midfield crocks and question marks. The Italian leagues are much easier on the body than the premier league so I wouldn't read too much into how many games he has played over there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted August 12, 2020 Report Share Posted August 12, 2020 55 minutes ago, StevO said: A fit Ramsey would be a game changer for us. But his wages would be huge, and could he stay fit? 35 total appearances doesn’t seem like someone too injury prone, but may have just been a lucky run. I don’t see it happening anyway. If I read the link correctly, we could pay him £5m a year with no fee, which could be relatively cheap for a player of his quality. The injury worries I get, especially with Gomes being unfortunate with similar injuries, but those two fit together is exciting StevO 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted August 12, 2020 Report Share Posted August 12, 2020 10 minutes ago, Bailey said: I wouldn't be against it if you could guarentee he would stay fit for most of the season, but you can't and we have plenty of midfield crocks and question marks. The Italian leagues are much easier on the body than the premier league so I wouldn't read too much into how many games he has played over there. The Italian league, from what I remember, is quite dirty rather than physical. And every player can get injured, see Gbamin. For the right money and contract, he’s a no-brainer but a potential high risk/high reward player. imagine if he came and convinced Bale to follow! StevO 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted August 12, 2020 Report Share Posted August 12, 2020 there is a reason arsenal didn't care when he left, he's been their version of mccarthy on/off the training table every week. no no no no no just say no Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted August 12, 2020 Report Share Posted August 12, 2020 6 minutes ago, markjazzbassist said: there is a reason arsenal didn't care when he left, he's been their version of mccarthy on/off the training table every week. no no no no no just say no Yeah, there was. They had no say and he wanted to move on Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted August 12, 2020 Report Share Posted August 12, 2020 there is nothing you can say to convice me. his wages will be insane, he's old, he's injury prone. just no London Blue 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted August 12, 2020 Report Share Posted August 12, 2020 5 hours ago, Matt said: The Italian league, from what I remember, is quite dirty rather than physical. And every player can get injured, see Gbamin. For the right money and contract, he’s a no-brainer but a potential high risk/high reward player. imagine if he came and convinced Bale to follow! Its more of the grind with the premier league and its fast pace. The Italian leagues are a lot slower and more tactical. I just think he is the last thing we need and with Bale there is no way we could afford his wages. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RuffRob Posted August 12, 2020 Report Share Posted August 12, 2020 As a welshman, I would love to see Ramsey in an Everton shirt - a cracking player. But as others have already alluded he is going to need to be on crazy wages. I have discussed in other posts the transfer strategy the club has in place under Brands et al, and I just think Ramsey is too far removed from that strategy. I think this strategy is the right thing to be doing and so we should not pursue him. Ramsey hit the jackpot when he ran down his Arsenal contract and basically got the transfer fee he would have got Arsenal added on to of his wages to be one of if not the most well paid British players ever. Ramsey is not going to give up his circa £20M a year contract to come to Everton!!! Heart would love it, but head says don't go near it. Matt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RuffRob Posted August 12, 2020 Report Share Posted August 12, 2020 27 minutes ago, RuffRob said: As a welshman, I would love to see Ramsey in an Everton shirt - a cracking player. But as others have already alluded he is going to need to be on crazy wages. I have discussed in other posts the transfer strategy the club has in place under Brands et al, and I just think Ramsey is too far removed from that strategy. I think this strategy is the right thing to be doing and so we should not pursue him. Ramsey hit the jackpot when he ran down his Arsenal contract and basically got the transfer fee he would have got Arsenal added on to of his wages to be one of if not the most well paid British players ever. Ramsey is not going to give up his circa £20M a year contract to come to Everton!!! Heart would love it, but head says don't go near it. He (and his agent) may have had most of his 'sign on' money upfront from Juve, or may be spread over his contract -so £20M might be the average to give a £300-£400k quotes weekly wage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevO Posted August 13, 2020 Report Share Posted August 13, 2020 10 hours ago, markjazzbassist said: there is a reason arsenal didn't care when he left, he's been their version of mccarthy on/off the training table every week. no no no no no just say no That just isn’t true. They spent the last two years of his contract trying to get him to sign an extension. Also, a quick look at his career stats for appearances. 19/20 season 35 18/19 season 40 17/18 season 32 16/17 season 32 15/16 season 40 14/15 season 41 13/14 season 34 12/13 season 47 11/12 season 44 10/11 season 8 for Arsenal, 5 for Forrest, 6 for Cardiff. In the year he was getting over his double leg break. For the nine years since he had the broken leg he’s managed an average of 38 games per season. That’s not too bad really. This season only Pickford, Digne, Gylfi, Richarlison and DCL have managed 38 games or more. Last season only Pickford, Gylfi, Walcott, Richarlison and DCL managed 38 games or more. Before that only Pickford, Keane, Schneiderlin, Rooney, Davies and DCL managed 38 games or more. I know that’s very simple maths, but even his last three seasons he has averaged 35 (almost 36) games per season If we got 35 games per season out of Ramsey for the next three years it would make a big difference. I always thought of him as always being injured, but maybe it’s a bit of a myth. Or maybe I’m just trying to convince myself we could get a player of that quality. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted August 13, 2020 Report Share Posted August 13, 2020 Those are premier league only matches? Or cups and euro matches as well? Likely the latter. Then it’s not so impressive. Still a no from me the wages would be exorbitant Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted August 13, 2020 Report Share Posted August 13, 2020 Just did some quick numbers for the last 4 seasons in all comps. Juve = 15 x 90mins 18/19 = 24 x 90 mins 17/18 = 27 x 90 mins 16/17 = 22 x 90 mins Sometimes the number of games played is misleading. Bearing in mind the number of games those sides play (50+) would having Ramsey for say 20 games a season be worth the cost? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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