StevO Posted August 13, 2020 Report Share Posted August 13, 2020 1 hour ago, Bailey said: Just did some quick numbers for the last 4 seasons in all comps. Juve = 15 x 90mins 18/19 = 24 x 90 mins 17/18 = 27 x 90 mins 16/17 = 22 x 90 mins Sometimes the number of games played is misleading. Bearing in mind the number of games those sides play (50+) would having Ramsey for say 20 games a season be worth the cost? That might be the case, but if he’s available for selection he isn’t injured too much. Assuming those 90 minutes are games he has started and finished? So wouldn’t include if he started a match but was subbed off in like the 80th minute? Matt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevO Posted August 13, 2020 Report Share Posted August 13, 2020 8 hours ago, markjazzbassist said: Those are premier league only matches? Or cups and euro matches as well? Likely the latter. Then it’s not so impressive. Still a no from me the wages would be exorbitant They were total matches, but so were the Everton stats. My point being that someone who is injury prone still played more games than the majority of our team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted August 13, 2020 Report Share Posted August 13, 2020 1 hour ago, StevO said: That might be the case, but if he’s available for selection he isn’t injured too much. Assuming those 90 minutes are games he has started and finished? So wouldn’t include if he started a match but was subbed off in like the 80th minute? Sorry StevO, I was rushing so didn't explain them very well. I counted his total minutes and divided them by 90 to work out how many "complete" games that would be. For example for Juve he played around 1300 minutes in total in all comps. Info taken from transfermarkt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevO Posted August 13, 2020 Report Share Posted August 13, 2020 51 minutes ago, Bailey said: Sorry StevO, I was rushing so didn't explain them very well. I counted his total minutes and divided them by 90 to work out how many "complete" games that would be. For example for Juve he played around 1300 minutes in total in all comps. Info taken from transfermarkt. Fair enough mate, that’s solid info. For the record I’m not trying to make a case to sign him, though his quality is not in doubt, but I went looking at his appearances to see just how much football he misses for someone so injury prone. After seeing the numbers I think he’s played quite a lot of football for someone who is considered to be injury prone. It’s made me not feel so against bringing him in if Carlo wanted him. Matt and Bailey 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted August 13, 2020 Report Share Posted August 13, 2020 51 minutes ago, StevO said: Fair enough mate, that’s solid info. For the record I’m not trying to make a case to sign him, though his quality is not in doubt, but I went looking at his appearances to see just how much football he misses for someone so injury prone. After seeing the numbers I think he’s played quite a lot of football for someone who is considered to be injury prone. It’s made me not feel so against bringing him in if Carlo wanted him. To be honest, I feel a similar way as I didn't realise Arsenal had got that many games out of him. I don't see it happening and he isn't a player I would target when considering his cost but I wouldn't be disappointed if we did sign him. StevO 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted August 13, 2020 Report Share Posted August 13, 2020 i'm guessing he would play on the left? does he have a good left foot? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RuffRob Posted August 13, 2020 Report Share Posted August 13, 2020 I think he must be one of those player that must pick up frequent 'knocks' that keep them out for a month or so at a time. Just in his DNA - I would imagine that it would continue with us. Doesn't seem to be out for long, its just fairly frequent. I know he is a hard working player and has really good quality - my fear would be how well motivated would he be coming to us for Juventus and Arsenal - being pessimistic we are at least a couple of season from being a team that might kick up some kind of domestic challenge for top 4's or cups etc. Will he be 'hungry' in an Everton shirt - If it turns out he is not, then it might be hard to ship him out on the sort of wages we would have to pay. Juventus are willing to let him go on a free when they may have already coughed up a decent sign on fee - why?. He still has 4 years left on a lucrative contract - we are at least going to have to offer him 4years on big wages, just for him to be breaking even. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevO Posted August 13, 2020 Report Share Posted August 13, 2020 46 minutes ago, markjazzbassist said: i'm guessing he would play on the left? does he have a good left foot? If he came in he would play in the middle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted August 13, 2020 Report Share Posted August 13, 2020 29 minutes ago, StevO said: If he came in he would play in the middle. Take Gomes place? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
London Blue Posted August 13, 2020 Report Share Posted August 13, 2020 2 minutes ago, markjazzbassist said: Take Gomes place? Would much rather have Gomes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevO Posted August 13, 2020 Report Share Posted August 13, 2020 39 minutes ago, markjazzbassist said: Take Gomes place? He’s a better player than Gomes. And I rate Gomes highly. Matt, Palfy, pete0 and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shukes Posted August 13, 2020 Report Share Posted August 13, 2020 1 hour ago, StevO said: He’s a better player than Gomes. And I rate Gomes highly. Agreed. He is an excellent player. My only worry is a niggling feeling something is wrong. He doesn't seem injury prone, but seems to attract that tag. It’s just leaving me with that feeling that we should avoid if I’m honest. RuffRob 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haiku Posted August 13, 2020 Report Share Posted August 13, 2020 29 minutes ago, Shukes said: He doesn't seem injury prone, but seems to attract that tag. Missed 9 games, but it is 2 months sick leave in a season hampered by a global pandemic. This screams stay away from my point of view. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palfy Posted August 13, 2020 Report Share Posted August 13, 2020 3 hours ago, StevO said: He’s a better player than Gomes. And I rate Gomes highly. 100% Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RuffRob Posted August 13, 2020 Report Share Posted August 13, 2020 4 hours ago, Shukes said: Agreed. He is an excellent player. My only worry is a niggling feeling something is wrong. He doesn't seem injury prone, but seems to attract that tag. It’s just leaving me with that feeling that we should avoid if I’m honest. I feel the same - great player, but somehow feel it might not workout. This could be that if feels like Everton would be a step backward for him - so why would he be want to come. Thus might be paranoia given the volume of high profile duds we are still trying to get rid off. maybe I should be a bit more optimistic, a good 5 -6 seasons left in a player like him, move in to a more defensive role a bit like Arteta did at Arsenal - Ramsey would do that role excellently. I don't think we are in for him to be honest - just one of those stories. StevO 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncanmckenzieismagic Posted June 21, 2021 Report Share Posted June 21, 2021 http://sportwitness.co.uk/agent-everton-proposal-table-player-decided-wants-move-away-club/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zoo 2.0 Posted June 21, 2021 Report Share Posted June 21, 2021 I really rate Aaron Ramsey, but he's on £400,000 p/w at Juventus so would need to significantly drop his wages to come here, I think the max I would be happy with us paying him is £100,000 p/w which when you then sit back and think about could potentially be used to bring younger players into the side. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
London Blue Posted June 21, 2021 Report Share Posted June 21, 2021 Doesn't fit the profile of young player, injury prone, would be on high wages, would give us a problem of having 3 midfielders in their 30s on high wages, all who would need replacing in a couple of years. So no, please lets get a young talented midfielder instead. Gwlad 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted June 21, 2021 Report Share Posted June 21, 2021 no, just no. he is always injured. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haiku Posted June 21, 2021 Report Share Posted June 21, 2021 Get him in. I'm raring to see a midfield trio of Gbamin, Ramsay and James. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Btay Posted June 22, 2021 Report Share Posted June 22, 2021 13 hours ago, Haiku said: Get him in. I'm raring to see a midfield trio of Gbamin, Ramsay and James. The Everton eclipse Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncanmckenzieismagic Posted September 28, 2021 Report Share Posted September 28, 2021 https://www.goodisonnews.com/2021/09/28/juventus-midfielder-aaron-ramsey-open-to-everton-transfer/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted September 28, 2021 Report Share Posted September 28, 2021 10 minutes ago, duncanmckenzieismagic said: https://www.goodisonnews.com/2021/09/28/juventus-midfielder-aaron-ramsey-open-to-everton-transfer/ I bet he is after he's seen the contracts we've been handing out... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RuffRob Posted September 28, 2021 Report Share Posted September 28, 2021 As much as I love Ramsey in a Welsh shirt, I don't really want Everton to gamble the very little money we seem to have on him. He is at the wrong end of his career, and would be wanting big wages and he has been to prone to injury which will not improve with age. Just don't think he is the right player for us just now. Wiggytop 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted September 29, 2021 Report Share Posted September 29, 2021 Given what Benitez said about James and his injuries, I can't see him wanting to bring in Ramsey. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncanmckenzieismagic Posted December 8, 2021 Report Share Posted December 8, 2021 https://tbrfootball.com/report-everton-open-talks-to-sign-juventus-midfielder-aaron-ramsey/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dunlopp9987 Posted December 8, 2021 Report Share Posted December 8, 2021 Fuck my life Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wiggytop Posted December 8, 2021 Report Share Posted December 8, 2021 No no and no, too old, too injury prone, unless he’s free and on a pay as you play contract. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RuffRob Posted December 8, 2021 Report Share Posted December 8, 2021 https://amp.theguardian.com/football/2021/oct/07/aaron-ramsey-insists-fitness-for-wales-no-problem-in-veiled-swipe-at-juventus As a welshman, I do follow Ramsey and watch the Wales games. He is still a very classy midfeilder and would massively improve us in the immediate term. He always puts a shift in and is a very versitle player. A bit of a risk, but if free then could be a shrewd bit of business. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c1982 Posted December 8, 2021 Report Share Posted December 8, 2021 No doubt that he’s a class player and on a free should be a no brainer for someone… BUT how much of a hit will he take on that £400k a week and can he stay fit and play every week? Too much of a risk for us unfortunately. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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