StevO Posted September 13, 2018 Report Share Posted September 13, 2018 I think he’s been one of our better players so far this season. Not lighting the place up but clearly much better as a possession player than a lot of our squad. barryj 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted September 16, 2018 Report Share Posted September 16, 2018 Simply does not get involved enough for me. If Gomes hits the ground running he’s going to struggle for a starting spot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted September 16, 2018 Report Share Posted September 16, 2018 I actually thought he was involved in everything good we did when he dropped deeper. When he played at 10 he was anonymous as no-one could get near him and interlink with him which he needs. markjazzbassist and StevO 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted September 16, 2018 Report Share Posted September 16, 2018 2 hours ago, Bailey said: I actually thought he was involved in everything good we did when he dropped deeper. When he played at 10 he was anonymous as no-one could get near him and interlink with him which he needs. Agreed The goal will help his confidence as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted September 20, 2018 Report Share Posted September 20, 2018 http://www.evertonfc.com/news/2018/09/20/nevin-on-sigurdsson He has to get on the ball more for this to be a reality. For me, he hides too much. plaidharper 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevO Posted September 20, 2018 Report Share Posted September 20, 2018 11 hours ago, Romey 1878 said: http://www.evertonfc.com/news/2018/09/20/nevin-on-sigurdsson He has to get on the ball more for this to be a reality. For me, he hides too much. I thought he was hiding a lot against West Ham after they scored. I hate to say that about a player too, but there were times Morgan and Gana had the ball and he was stood behind a defender instead of looking for the pass. Was very disappointed in him. Play him next to Morgan and see what happens. Romey 1878 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plaidharper Posted September 24, 2018 Report Share Posted September 24, 2018 Hope Dowell and Gomes are watching on the bench and plotting ways to challenge for his spot. Siggy needs something to push him to where he needs to be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted September 24, 2018 Report Share Posted September 24, 2018 3 minutes ago, plaidharper said: Hope Dowell and Gomes are watching on the bench and plotting ways to challenge for his spot. Siggy needs something to push him to where he needs to be. They won’t have to do much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nogs Posted September 24, 2018 Report Share Posted September 24, 2018 Lots of flak gets thrown at Gana, Davies and Schneiderlin (yes from me) on this forum. Sigurdsson didn't look worth half his £45m price tag on Sunday. In danger of becoming yet another very expensive mistake. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted September 24, 2018 Report Share Posted September 24, 2018 13 minutes ago, nogs said: Lots of flak gets thrown at Gana, Davies and Schneiderlin (yes from me) on this forum. Sigurdsson didn't look worth half his £45m price tag on Sunday. In danger of becoming yet another very expensive mistake. big gylfi fan here and yet i agree with you, to be honest i'm just not sure he is the right fit for the style of play Marco wants. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wiggytop Posted September 24, 2018 Report Share Posted September 24, 2018 2 hours ago, nogs said: Lots of flak gets thrown at Gana, Davies and Schneiderlin (yes from me) on this forum. Sigurdsson didn't look worth half his £45m price tag on Sunday. In danger of becoming yet another very expensive mistake. I'd agree with you on that, I don't think we've ever seen him turn in a brilliant performance yet, granted last season was a disaster, but he really needs to step up his game soon IMO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aidan Posted September 24, 2018 Report Share Posted September 24, 2018 2 hours ago, markjazzbassist said: big gylfi fan here and yet i agree with you, to be honest i'm just not sure he is the right fit for the style of play Marco wants. Spot on I can't see how he will fit into the system and can see him being sold this summer. Especially if Silva moves Bernard into a central role. markjazzbassist 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted September 25, 2018 Report Share Posted September 25, 2018 Don't think about the price tag. Everyone knows it was massively inflated and not a true representation of his value, so it's even more irrelevant than normal to use it in criticism of a player MikeO, Btay and EFC-Paul 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted September 25, 2018 Report Share Posted September 25, 2018 5 hours ago, Matt said: Don't think about the price tag. Everyone knows it was massively inflated and not a true representation of his value, so it's even more irrelevant than normal to use it in criticism of a player i'm not, i just don't think he fits Marco's system regardless of price. i think Marco wants more pace, like he has on the wings and with the fullbacks and when he plays DCL with the forward. Gylfi is the weak link there (regarding speed/acceleration). Even the CM have pace in davies and gana. but maybe i don't know how Silva wants to play, who knows. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nogs Posted September 25, 2018 Report Share Posted September 25, 2018 6 hours ago, Matt said: Don't think about the price tag. Everyone knows it was massively inflated and not a true representation of his value, so it's even more irrelevant than normal to use it in criticism of a player Perfectly valid to criticise the club for paying it though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted September 26, 2018 Report Share Posted September 26, 2018 9 hours ago, nogs said: Perfectly valid to criticise the club for paying it though. Steve Walsh wants strangling just for this one deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted September 26, 2018 Report Share Posted September 26, 2018 15 hours ago, nogs said: Perfectly valid to criticise the club for paying it though. Absolutely. 16 hours ago, markjazzbassist said: i'm not, i just don't think he fits Marco's system regardless of price. i think Marco wants more pace, like he has on the wings and with the fullbacks and when he plays DCL with the forward. Gylfi is the weak link there (regarding speed/acceleration). Even the CM have pace in davies and gana. but maybe i don't know how Silva wants to play, who knows. I know mate, I just keep seeing it mentioned and it sometimes seems an criticism against him is all I was getting at. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plaidharper Posted September 26, 2018 Report Share Posted September 26, 2018 The price and the pace doesn't bother me as much as the hiding / ghosting in games... StevO and Romey 1878 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EFC-Paul Posted September 26, 2018 Report Share Posted September 26, 2018 He needs to be played further back with some free reign Prior to coming here he was top of the pile for distance covered and making runs in many games and he can't do that here with the system we use and the players we have it's far to tight further up for us than he's previously had it He covers distance makes runs and can play the ball as well as anyone given the space and scores the vast majority of his goals running the ball to the edge of the box I'd try him centrally and get him to pick the ball up from Gana and go from there, he's more positive and has more about his game than both Davies and Morgan markjazzbassist, Btay, Matt and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Btay Posted September 26, 2018 Report Share Posted September 26, 2018 6 hours ago, EFC-Paul said: He needs to be played further back with some free reign Prior to coming here he was top of the pile for distance covered and making runs in many games and he can't do that here with the system we use and the players we have it's far to tight further up for us than he's previously had it He covers distance makes runs and can play the ball as well as anyone given the space and scores the vast majority of his goals running the ball to the edge of the box I'd try him centrally and get him to pick the ball up from Gana and go from there, he's more positive and has more about his game than both Davies and Morgan It’s worth ago, as currently we are not utilising him at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted September 27, 2018 Report Share Posted September 27, 2018 9 hours ago, Btay said: It’s worth ago, as currently we are not utilising him at all. It'll be all good and well playing him deeper to utilise him but I think the bigger problem is him utilising himself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EFC-Paul Posted September 27, 2018 Report Share Posted September 27, 2018 22 minutes ago, Romey 1878 said: It'll be all good and well playing him deeper to utilise him but I think the bigger problem is him utilising himself. I also agree with that though he does need to step up to the plate far more often, if he's given a slightly different role and still does that for the most part then it will be very telling Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted September 30, 2018 Report Share Posted September 30, 2018 "The playmaker also made an incredible five key passes throughout the match - which becomes an even more surprising number given the fact the Icelandic international only attempted 24 passes in general during the 90 minutes. " Taken from the Echo piece that Dunc posted in the Gana thread. This line sums up my issue with Gylfi and what I have said about his performances in recent weeks. When he does get on the ball he is using it well and he is being productive but a playmaker only making 24 passes in a home game against a newly promoted side is too low. In comparison, Siggy has made on average 21.43 passes per game this season and yet Maddison has made 43.29. Maddison has also had 1 more shot and been more accurate with them (Siggy has scored from all 3 shots on target). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete0 Posted September 30, 2018 Report Share Posted September 30, 2018 32 minutes ago, patto said: Too much negativity on here regarding Siggy that's because he cost 45m that's not his fault but he is easily the best midfielder and most productive we have and this year he is fitter I said a few weeks ago he needs quality with him. I see he praised Bernard for his quality that's what we need. Think it's more that he's never on the ball and stats show he makes very little from open play. Part the blame should go on the two behind him in midfield for not finding him more but he's more reactive than pro active in his runs so has to saddle some flak. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Btay Posted September 30, 2018 Report Share Posted September 30, 2018 Yeah I want siggy to grab the game and put his stamp on it. We are better when he is on the ball, so let’s get him on it. glad he scored the goals though, he needed it. markjazzbassist 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aidan Posted September 30, 2018 Report Share Posted September 30, 2018 I'm not siggys biggest fan, but to be fair to him he's played the second most key passes in the league this season, with relatively little amount of time on the ball (19 to David Silva's 20). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncanmckenzieismagic Posted September 30, 2018 Author Report Share Posted September 30, 2018 https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-6225097/The-Iceman-cometh-Everton-fans-start-warm-Gylfi-Sigurdsson-heroics-against-Fulham.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paddock Posted October 1, 2018 Report Share Posted October 1, 2018 If we’d have paid £20 million for him nobody would be questioning him. I see it on Twitter all the time “ he needs to start living up to his price tag” why?? Fid he ask to be sold for that much money, is it his fault we overpaid massively for him, is it his fault he walked into the middle of a shit storm? The lad is easily one of outlr best players and one of the few who gives you hope that we can do something a bit special when we are struggling or need to pull a rabbit out the hat. He shouldn’t be on pens though. markjazzbassist and Matt 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wiggytop Posted October 1, 2018 Report Share Posted October 1, 2018 Poor penalty, but two sublime finishes for his goals, for his first MOTD had one camera angle immediately behind him, the curve on the ball is beautiful as it threads its way through the rowdies area in the net, and on the 2nd the goalie or rooted to the spot and isn'ttt able to make any attempt to save it. I hate the price tag issue, but for £15m more than Bolassie he look,s a bargain in comparison. pete0 and Matt 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted October 1, 2018 Report Share Posted October 1, 2018 3 hours ago, Paddock said: If we’d have paid £20 million for him nobody would be questioning him. I see it on Twitter all the time “ he needs to start living up to his price tag” why?? Fid he ask to be sold for that much money, is it his fault we overpaid massively for him, is it his fault he walked into the middle of a shit storm? The lad is easily one of outlr best players and one of the few who gives you hope that we can do something a bit special when we are struggling or need to pull a rabbit out the hat. He shouldn’t be on pens though. While his price tag was ridiculous (especially as we'd already brought two other number 10s in at that point) that's not my issue with him. My issue is him just living up to being what he was brought in for. And that's to be a focal point of our attack and I don't feel he involves himself in the game enough. He's shown that when he does involve himself that he can be exactly what we need and a huge influence for us. And it shouldn't only happen if the whole team is playing well. His role is to lead the others, not the other way around. He is supposed to get the rest playing well. That's what frustrates me. 1 hour ago, Wiggytop said: Poor penalty, but two sublime finishes for his goals, for his first MOTD had one camera angle immediately behind him, the curve on the ball is beautiful as it threads its way through the rowdies area in the net, and on the 2nd the goalie or rooted to the spot and isn'ttttt able to make any attempt to save it. I hate the price tag issue, but for £15m more than Bolassie he look,s a bargain in comparison. I watched it all the way in and it was as beautiful as the replays make it look. My reaction was literally "wow". Matt and Bailey 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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