Finn balor Posted August 7, 2019 Report Share Posted August 7, 2019 Can’t be for three million surely? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haiku Posted August 7, 2019 Report Share Posted August 7, 2019 Most sites are mentioning a fee around eight million. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted August 7, 2019 Report Share Posted August 7, 2019 2 hours ago, aaron said: Mark you cant just refuse a call up or you run the risk of being banned at club level and fined. He either retired from international football for good or had to go. If anyone is to blame its Martin O'Neill and the Ireland FA, not McCarthy. Yes you can players do it all the time and as far as getting banned from Republic of Ireland they have no quality who are they going to replace McCarthy with I just don’t see that being an issue Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevO Posted August 7, 2019 Report Share Posted August 7, 2019 16 minutes ago, markjazzbassist said: Yes you can players do it all the time and as far as getting banned from Republic of Ireland they have no quality who are they going to replace McCarthy with I just don’t see that being an issue His point is that if he refuses a call up he could get a ban from playing for his club. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaron Posted August 7, 2019 Report Share Posted August 7, 2019 24 minutes ago, markjazzbassist said: Yes you can players do it all the time and as far as getting banned from Republic of Ireland they have no quality who are they going to replace McCarthy with I just don’t see that being an issue He would have been banned from club football, not international. You cant reject a international call up just like that, Liverpool almost lost Matip to suspension last year or the year before, he ended up retiring from international football to get around it. If the country in question takes it further the player can be banned from playing club football. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Posted August 7, 2019 Report Share Posted August 7, 2019 26 minutes ago, StevO said: His point is that if he refuses a call up he could get a ban from playing for his club. Not if he wasn't fit, he never played a game for us before he was called up, its the club that should have put their foot down to stop it if he wasn't fit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sibdane Posted August 7, 2019 Report Share Posted August 7, 2019 14 minutes ago, Bill said: Not if he wasn't fit, he never played a game for us before he was called up, its the club that should have put their foot down to stop it if he wasn't fit. And I'm sure McCarthy or a representative had discussions with MON/ROI about his fitness. I can only assume that McCarthy told them he was fit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted August 7, 2019 Report Share Posted August 7, 2019 57 minutes ago, StevO said: His point is that if he refuses a call up he could get a ban from playing for his club. again i have seen americans and english do this time and again and say it's due to injury. guess what? when they are healthy they are called in again. sitting out due to attitude (Vela) is another thing. but people get injury. also if he walks into the side half injured you think a fully fit mccarthy is gonna be rejected because he said no due to injury last time? hell no. they need him. they are dire Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Posted August 7, 2019 Report Share Posted August 7, 2019 42 minutes ago, Sibdane said: And I'm sure McCarthy or a representative had discussions with MON/ROI about his fitness. I can only assume that McCarthy told them he was fit. That's why he's never played again since, and has ruined his career. Goodbye from me, glad to see him go. barryj and markjazzbassist 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post barryj Posted August 7, 2019 Popular Post Report Share Posted August 7, 2019 I wish him all the best (except against us). When he was fit and playing he was one of the most committed players I’ve seen. Romey 1878, Quinn31, Matt and 5 others 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plaidharper Posted August 7, 2019 Report Share Posted August 7, 2019 They just signed Victor Camarasa on loan. Hopefully it does not effect the deal and they were in for both of them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted August 7, 2019 Report Share Posted August 7, 2019 14 minutes ago, plaidharper said: They just signed Victor Camarasa on loan. Hopefully it does not effect the deal and they were in for both of them. Not sure why them signing a winger would make any difference. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plaidharper Posted August 7, 2019 Report Share Posted August 7, 2019 4 minutes ago, Romey 1878 said: Not sure why them signing a winger would make any difference. Because he is not a winger and plays the same position? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted August 7, 2019 Report Share Posted August 7, 2019 8 minutes ago, plaidharper said: Because he is not a winger and plays the same position? I wonder why Steve Parish is expecting him to provide creativity and not defensive stability then. Edit - he is, in fact, a CM, but it’s hardly the same role of McCarthy. I think we’ll still be ok. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Btay Posted August 7, 2019 Report Share Posted August 7, 2019 McCarthy confirmed to palace markjazzbassist 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finn balor Posted August 7, 2019 Report Share Posted August 7, 2019 All the best James. Great pro Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xian4 Posted March 8, 2020 Report Share Posted March 8, 2020 Thanks for selling him, now that he is fit, he has been great for us. He does all the dirty work, niggly tackles, defending teammates and has added some real steel to our midfield. Should be a real battle between a few of us for those final European spots. Good luck CP fan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted March 9, 2020 Report Share Posted March 9, 2020 On 08/03/2020 at 10:53, xian4 said: Thanks for selling him, now that he is fit, he has been great for us. He does all the dirty work, niggly tackles, defending teammates and has added some real steel to our midfield. Should be a real battle between a few of us for those final European spots. Good luck CP fan He would get into our side now. I said at the time I would have sooner seen him get up to speed before deciding to sell. Matt, Palfy and Romey 1878 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted March 9, 2020 Report Share Posted March 9, 2020 I still don't really understand it either. A midfielder with a brain and a bit of bottle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted March 9, 2020 Report Share Posted March 9, 2020 I loved McCarthy, I make no secret about that. He was limited in some aspects (but those aspects were the requirements for other players anyway), but what he was good at he was very good at and we miss what he brought to the team. The same way we miss Gana. Sibdane 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted March 9, 2020 Report Share Posted March 9, 2020 he will be injured shortly in which case no one will be missing him then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted March 10, 2020 Report Share Posted March 10, 2020 18 hours ago, markjazzbassist said: he will be injured shortly in which case no one will be missing him then. You have been calling for him to be sold for ages... £3m for him. I'd have paid £3m to have him for our remaining matches. He was injured due to Martinez rushing him back time after time. Then he got a leg break covering for schneiderlein being a coward. Very solid midfielder who would be doing a job for us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted March 10, 2020 Report Share Posted March 10, 2020 5 hours ago, Hafnia said: You have been calling for him to be sold for ages... £3m for him. I'd have paid £3m to have him for our remaining matches. He was injured due to Martinez rushing him back time after time. Then he got a leg break covering for schneiderlein being a coward. Very solid midfielder who would be doing a job for us. he was sold, he's not longer our player. and i rejoice. sadly we replaced him with the same thing in Delph, always injured. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted March 10, 2020 Report Share Posted March 10, 2020 5 hours ago, markjazzbassist said: he was sold, he's not longer our player. and i rejoice. sadly we replaced him with the same thing in Delph, always injured. Delph isn’t fit to lace McCarthy’s boots. While Delph talks a good game he’s fucking shite, McCarthy said nothing and did his job where it mattered. Matt, Zoo 2.0 and Bailey 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted March 11, 2020 Report Share Posted March 11, 2020 8 hours ago, Romey 1878 said: Delph isn’t fit to lace McCarthy’s boots. While Delph talks a good game he’s fucking shite, McCarthy said nothing and did his job where it mattered. Exactly. McCarthy and Barry in that first year or so together were the best we've had as a partnership in ages. His injuries stemmed from Martinez rushing him back. Great attitude on the pitch. Matt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Posted March 11, 2020 Report Share Posted March 11, 2020 3 hours ago, Hafnia said: Exactly. McCarthy and Barry in that first year or so together were the best we've had as a partnership in ages. His injuries stemmed from Martinez rushing him back. Great attitude on the pitch. His injuries stemmed from that prick O'Neill rushing him back for international duties. Palfy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted March 11, 2020 Report Share Posted March 11, 2020 9 hours ago, Bill said: His injuries stemmed from that prick O'Neill rushing him back for international duties. He never got an injury from 2010 till he he strained his hamstring at the end of 2014.... he strained it again less than a month later... then again. Danny Donachie got the sack I recall and there was debate as to whether Martinez rushed McCarthy back and Donachie carried the can or whether it was his fault he got injured again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Posted March 11, 2020 Report Share Posted March 11, 2020 2 hours ago, Hafnia said: He never got an injury from 2010 till he he strained his hamstring at the end of 2014.... he strained it again less than a month later... then again. Danny Donachie got the sack I recall and there was debate as to whether Martinez rushed McCarthy back and Donachie carried the can or whether it was his fault he got injured again. He got the hamstring and was out for some time, hadn't played a match for us since the injury and O'Neill picked him for the international squad. McCarthy went with the squad and continued to get the recurring injury, the club should have stopped him going because he still wasn't fit to play. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted March 11, 2020 Report Share Posted March 11, 2020 12 minutes ago, Bill said: He got the hamstring and was out for some time, hadn't played a match for us since the injury and O'Neill picked him for the international squad. McCarthy went with the squad and continued to get the recurring injury, the club should have stopped him going because he still wasn't fit to play. November 9th to December 6th 2014 - groin injury. December 28th to January 31st 2015 - groin injury. This happened under Martinez... Martinez played him against wolfsburg away and he lasted 10 minutes. Donachie got the blame but we had numerous hamstring injuries at the time - Baines was getting them. I think Martinez was overruling Donachie. The whole Ireland thing was under Koeman. I liked McCarthy. Proper player. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted March 12, 2020 Report Share Posted March 12, 2020 On 11/03/2020 at 07:55, Hafnia said: Exactly. McCarthy and Barry in that first year or so together were the best we've had as a partnership in ages. His injuries stemmed from Martinez rushing him back. Great attitude on the pitch. On 11/03/2020 at 11:19, Bill said: His injuries stemmed from that prick O'Neill rushing him back for international duties. Or he kept getting himself injured because he kept trying to play when he wasn't right. Your sports scientists can only tell you so much. If the fitness figures are right and he is saying he feels good then why wouldn't the club or international manager play him. Matt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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