duncanmckenzieismagic Posted July 10, 2023 Report Share Posted July 10, 2023 Neither him or Gbamin are in the 28 man squad for the training camp in Switzerland plaidharper and Matt 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plaidharper Posted July 10, 2023 Report Share Posted July 10, 2023 3 hours ago, duncanmckenzieismagic said: Neither him or Gbamin are in the 28 man squad for the training camp in Switzerland Hopefully both are off Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted July 10, 2023 Report Share Posted July 10, 2023 Holgate is injured and that's why he's not there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted July 10, 2023 Report Share Posted July 10, 2023 6 hours ago, Romey 1878 said: Holgate is injured and that's why he's not there. Always bringing us down! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted July 11, 2023 Report Share Posted July 11, 2023 11 hours ago, Bailey said: Always bringing us down! To bring you all back up, I heard that Gbamin has basically refused to return. Whether that's true or not is a different story but there you go! Bailey 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palfy Posted July 11, 2023 Report Share Posted July 11, 2023 4 hours ago, Romey 1878 said: To bring you all back up, I heard that Gbamin has basically refused to return. Whether that's true or not is a different story but there you go! Who cares he would have probably get injured on the way back anyway. If true he has hopefully breached his contract and we can just bin him because we were never going to get a bean for him. Shukes 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncanmckenzieismagic Posted July 11, 2023 Report Share Posted July 11, 2023 https://www.goodisonnews.com/2023/07/11/southampton-in-talks-to-sign-everton-defender-mason-holgate-as-goodison-park-exit-news-emerges/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted July 11, 2023 Report Share Posted July 11, 2023 34 minutes ago, duncanmckenzieismagic said: https://www.goodisonnews.com/2023/07/11/southampton-in-talks-to-sign-everton-defender-mason-holgate-as-goodison-park-exit-news-emerges/ That's someone's thought process. Not that he's wrong but that's no rumour, not even a fee. *please God's, let me be wrong here* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncanmckenzieismagic Posted July 19, 2023 Report Share Posted July 19, 2023 Captaining the U21’s tonight, shows how far out of the first team picture he is Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Btay Posted July 19, 2023 Report Share Posted July 19, 2023 7 minutes ago, duncanmckenzieismagic said: Captaining the U21’s tonight, shows how far out of the first team picture he is I hope he is one of the players being sold but he is coming back from injury. Romey 1878 and Matt 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shukes Posted July 19, 2023 Report Share Posted July 19, 2023 That’s worrying. Seems he is staying if he has been made captain. That’s a position of role model for the U21s. StevO 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted July 19, 2023 Report Share Posted July 19, 2023 15 minutes ago, Shukes said: That’s worrying. Seems he is staying if he has been made captain. That’s a position of role model for the U21s. “Lads, see Mason here? That’s an example of how not to progress. Don’t be like Mason.” StevO and Shukes 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c1982 Posted August 1, 2023 Author Report Share Posted August 1, 2023 Talk of a move to Southampton seems to be intensifying plaidharper and Matt 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevO Posted August 1, 2023 Report Share Posted August 1, 2023 17 minutes ago, c1982 said: Talk of a move to Southampton seems to be intensifying I like that move. After all the time he’s spent here I hope he goes somewhere and becomes a regular starter. He needs to be playing every week. On the other hand, how has a player who’s never been a starter amassed a wage above £70k per week (apparently)? Mental, and probably a big reason why he’s been happy to be on our bench for all of these years. Bailey, Romey 1878 and Matt 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c1982 Posted August 1, 2023 Author Report Share Posted August 1, 2023 12 minutes ago, StevO said: I like that move. After all the time he’s spent here I hope he goes somewhere and becomes a regular starter. He needs to be playing every week. On the other hand, how has a player who’s never been a starter amassed a wage above £70k per week (apparently)? Mental, and probably a big reason why he’s been happy to be on our bench for all of these years. Can’t exactly remember when but he had a purple patch and Man City were mentioned (genuinely - sure I’m not imagining this!!!) and he/his agent struck when the iron was hot! We’ve made some poor decisions in recent years! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted August 1, 2023 Report Share Posted August 1, 2023 Has all the physical talent, just dim. Good luck to him and whoever takes him on Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c1982 Posted August 1, 2023 Author Report Share Posted August 1, 2023 The purple patch… On 18/01/2020 at 18:30, Matt said: I expect very rich clubs to be coming in for him if he keeps this up. I mean Barca elk On 20/01/2020 at 18:06, duncanmckenzieismagic said: https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/mason-holgate-line-first-england-21321163 On 21/01/2020 at 10:49, Bill said: Newcastle and Bournemouth reported to have made offers for him. ffs they're cheeky bastards if they think he would leave us to go there. On 21/01/2020 at 13:15, Wiggytop said: We need to sort his out quickly so we keep him, I rate him a lot. On 04/02/2020 at 14:42, Matt said: He’ll end up at Barcelona at this rate. Brilliant season so far, player of the season along with DCL, and will only get better. VVD move over, there’s a new kid in town The Man City links… On 28/02/2020 at 11:54, Matt said: https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/man-city-weigh-up-30million-21592436 On 28/02/2020 at 17:20, duncanmckenzieismagic said: https://www.express.co.uk/sport/football/1248844/Manchester-City-Everton-Mason-Holgate-Pep-Guardiola-Carlo-Ancelotti-verdict-transfer-news The big mistake… On 03/03/2020 at 18:47, duncanmckenzieismagic said: Signed new 5 year contract Matt and Sibdane 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wiggytop Posted August 2, 2023 Report Share Posted August 2, 2023 13 hours ago, c1982 said: On 21/01/2020 at 13:15, Wiggytop said: We need to sort his out quickly so we keep him, I rate him a lot. How things have changed, he’s just not made the step up many expected. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted August 2, 2023 Report Share Posted August 2, 2023 3 hours ago, Wiggytop said: How things have changed, he’s just not made the step up many expected. I still think he has all the attributes to be honest, physically. StevO 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted August 3, 2023 Report Share Posted August 3, 2023 4 hours ago, RPG said: I wouldn't argue too much with that. His main problems seems to be between his ears. I would. He isn't quick, he isn't strong, he looks about 5ft 6 against proper defenders and he doesn't have a Tim Cahill style leap. His passing is shit. He doesn't read the game well enough. There is nothing about him that marks him out to be a Premier League footballer. It's ludicrous that we are paying him as much as we are for someone who has effectively come through the academy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wiggytop Posted August 3, 2023 Report Share Posted August 3, 2023 I’ve watched him closely during game warmups, he acts as if he is Messi, doing flicks, tricks and generally showing off, it would have been nice if he focused on being a decent defender. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harv Posted August 3, 2023 Report Share Posted August 3, 2023 Never rated him, okay as cover on the bench, but that’s a lot of wages to have on the bench. I thought he would have been moved on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevO Posted August 3, 2023 Report Share Posted August 3, 2023 4 hours ago, Bailey said: I would. He isn't quick, he isn't strong, he looks about 5ft 6 against proper defenders and he doesn't have a Tim Cahill style leap. His passing is shit. He doesn't read the game well enough. There is nothing about him that marks him out to be a Premier League footballer. It's ludicrous that we are paying him as much as we are for someone who has effectively come through the academy. He is quick, he is strong and he’s 6 foot tall. As Matt said, physically fine. Doesn’t make him a stand out player, but he never said he was. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted August 3, 2023 Report Share Posted August 3, 2023 3 hours ago, RPG said: Somebody obviously thought he had enough ability and/or potential to put him on 70k a week. I agree that apart from one short purple patch he has neither demonstrated enough ability to earn that wage nor lived up to his supposed potential. I think the main reason for that is between his ears. He seems to come across now as thinking he is far better than he is and I believe most of that is caused by giving him too much money, too soon, and it has badly affected his attitude. To some extent I think his atttitude got him to where he is. That arrogance and aggression is what got him to this point but the bubble burst. 4 minutes ago, StevO said: He is quick, he is strong and he’s 6 foot tall. As Matt said, physically fine. Doesn’t make him a stand out player, but he never said he was. He is no quicker than Keane, albeit he is more agile. 6ft still makes him our shortest CB and below average for the league. He isn't strong for the league either IMO. He is below PL average in most of those categories, maybe with speed and agility being average. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shukes Posted August 3, 2023 Report Share Posted August 3, 2023 Not a bad player. Not good enough for our first team, but nowhere near as bad as people make out. I wouldn’t mind if he stayed as a squad player to be honest. Can fill a couple of positions. I expect him to do well if we do sell him as he does have the right attributes. Just needs to be managed correctly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gwlad Posted August 3, 2023 Report Share Posted August 3, 2023 1 hour ago, Bailey said: To some extent I think his atttitude got him to where he is. That arrogance and aggression is what got him to this point but the bubble burst. How many times have we commented on his attitude and arrogance on here? Move him on. KinL, Matt and Wiggytop 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Posted August 14, 2023 Report Share Posted August 14, 2023 Southampton want him on loan but Everton want to sell to get some money in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevO Posted August 14, 2023 Report Share Posted August 14, 2023 I’d let him go on loan if that’s the only option, provided they cover all of his wages. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted August 14, 2023 Report Share Posted August 14, 2023 9 minutes ago, StevO said: I’d let him go on loan if that’s the only option, provided they cover all of his wages. I think its very unlikely any club in the Championship will be able to pay £70k pw for him! Palfy and Matt 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevO Posted August 14, 2023 Report Share Posted August 14, 2023 2 hours ago, Bailey said: I think its very unlikely any club in the Championship will be able to pay £70k pw for him! I agree, the worry is covering a big chunk of his costs to let him go there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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