Newty82 Posted August 23, 2015 Report Share Posted August 23, 2015 I'm sure the same old same will continue to say the same old same. Carry on. For me, City look immense. The balance in that team, both at the back and in attack, is absolutely on point. If they can keep this team fit, they'll be the team to watch this season. The organisation at the back is bang on. They defended in solid lines and we couldn't get through. Going forward, their pace, movement and decisiveness will cause most teams a problem. I think we gave it a real go. But anyone to beat them this season will also need to be perfectly balanced in all areas. We are not that at the moment. Left back was a problem. As was the wings. Both goals were shite and were a downer on an otherwise decent effort. I don't think anybody played particularly poor. We certainly looked tired as the game wore on. Not surprising really as that lot are non stop. I was a bit bemused with Naismith coming on. I think we needed some natural width. The only thing I can think is that bringing Gerry or Kev on would cost us defensively were as Naismith, while not as talented, will run and harass all over the park. Think Barkley had a bit of a frustrating game. He needs to learn that opposition teams will try to crowd him out, so to buy some space he needs to release the ball earlier either through a shot or a quick pass. At the moment he seems to run into the opposition and run out of space. Overall, can't be too harsh on the team. But I dont think that was us on full song. chicagoblue 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted August 23, 2015 Report Share Posted August 23, 2015 I said it at half time, they stay fit they will destroy most teams in the world. Possibly the most complete team I've seen in a long time, Silva is awesome. Matt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted August 23, 2015 Report Share Posted August 23, 2015 What didn't help Galloway and Browning was having 2 on 1 as Kone was no help. Nothing to do with their pace. And due to his experience Barry would've coped with that better than a pair of kids, one of which playing completely out of position. Agree with you about Naismith though. Definitely the wrong substitution. As was Deulofeu. Mirallas was a must today. efc1111 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC11 Posted August 23, 2015 Report Share Posted August 23, 2015 Coleman is the weak link today, wouldn't mind browning coming on to lock out the right side like his cameo in the derby Ok mate chicagoblue and MC11 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milesey05 Posted August 23, 2015 Report Share Posted August 23, 2015 (edited) And due to his experience Barry would've coped with that better than a pair of kids, one of which playing completely out of position. Agree with you about Naismith though. Definitely the wrong substitution. As was Deulofeu. Mirallas was a must today. Gerry was awful then again with no playing time and only 5 minutes to find touch you can't be too harsh. Mirallas would have thrived out there today. So much space to run at them but that's gone now. Will have to agree to disagree with the Barry left back thing. Edited August 23, 2015 by milesey05 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted August 23, 2015 Report Share Posted August 23, 2015 Not giving him stick. Just the wrong person to bring on.didnt necessarily mean you mate. And I agree, we were crying out for Mirallas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC11 Posted August 23, 2015 Report Share Posted August 23, 2015 (edited) And due to his experience Barry would've coped with that better than a pair of kids, one of which playing completely out of position. Agree with you about Naismith though. Definitely the wrong substitution. As was Deulofeu. Mirallas was a must today. Mirallas was very unhappy when Deulofeu was chosen to go on. Raised his hands up in the air looking at Martinez,Took a good swipe at the floor and went and sat back down. The substituation came far too late anyway. Martinez is a clown Edited August 23, 2015 by MC11 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
London Blue Posted August 23, 2015 Report Share Posted August 23, 2015 should have swapped Mirallas for Kone after about 60 minutes, as people have said it was crying out for him in the last 30 minutes. Wonder why Oviedo wasn't in the squad, he would have made for a better LB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milesey05 Posted August 23, 2015 Report Share Posted August 23, 2015 didnt necessarily mean you mate. And I agree, we were crying out for Mirallas No worries. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC11 Posted August 23, 2015 Report Share Posted August 23, 2015 Gerry was awful then again with no playing time and only 5 minutes to find touch you can't be too harsh. Mirallas would have thrived out there today. So much space to run at them but that's gone now. Will have to agree to disagree with the Barry left back thing. Barry has been comfortable at left back when he's gone there. Navas had a field day against Browning. Unfortunately he's not at our level yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete0 Posted August 23, 2015 Report Share Posted August 23, 2015 I said it at half time, they stay fit they will destroy most teams in the world. Possibly the most complete team I've seen in a long time, Silva is awesome.Silva and kompany is the bridge from us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith B Posted August 23, 2015 Report Share Posted August 23, 2015 I was worried when we loaned Garbutt that it made us very thin. He'd be getting all the LB minutes with Baines out. I understand why we did it but we certainly could use him for the next 3 months. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milesey05 Posted August 23, 2015 Report Share Posted August 23, 2015 Barry has been comfortable at left back when he's gone there. Navas had a field day against Browning. Unfortunately he's not at our level yet. Browning or Galloway are nowhere near yet. Kone didn't help either of them today. I said this area needed work after the saints game Infact said we would be punished against better teams. I really don't think Barry would have made that much of a difference. I Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nogs Posted August 23, 2015 Report Share Posted August 23, 2015 He's brilliant one week and stubborn playing favorites the next. If he could just loosen up he'd be a top manager for sure. Tactically he knows what to do, but his principles of possession cloud his judgement. Shame really. I have to disagree, a great tactician knows when to change shape when necessary. What we did against Southampton worked first half, but when you go 1-0 down and are clearly being outplayed like we were first 15 of second half, you've got to change things. For me, the straight swap Kone for Naismith didn't work, we became too predictable. Id just like a bit more bravery from Martinez. At 1-0 down for me it's nothing to lose, so change shape, put on the widemen and see what happens. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC11 Posted August 23, 2015 Report Share Posted August 23, 2015 Browning or Galloway are nowhere near yet. Kone didn't help either of them today. I said this area needed work after the saints game Infact said we would be punished against better teams. I really don't think Barry would have made that much of a difference. I We'd have been a lot more balanced with Barry at left back. Navas had far too much space every time he received the ball. I don't think he'd have made a difference to the scoreline - that would have been achieved further up the pitch if the right players had come on at the right time. Lad sitting next to me said Mirallas signed the contract because he was promised game time. Something which he shouldn't even have to worry about. Unfortunately Martinez seems to just be taking the piss out of him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeQuince Posted August 23, 2015 Report Share Posted August 23, 2015 Agree. It's what I said when it happened and I got stick for it. Would've made the most sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milesey05 Posted August 23, 2015 Report Share Posted August 23, 2015 We'd have been a lot more balanced with Barry at left back. Navas had far too much space every time he received the ball. I don't think he'd have made a difference to the scoreline - that would have been achieved further up the pitch if the right players had come on at the right time. Lad sitting next to me said Mirallas signed the contract because he was promised game time. Something which he shouldn't even have to worry about. Unfortunately Martinez seems to just be taking the piss out of him. I would be more than fucked off if I was Mirallas. I'm hoping that him and Gerry both start mid week in the cup. Could gain some vital match sharpness so could start against Spurs next Saturday evening. You know Martinez will go with Ossie and Naismith now I've said that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Btay Posted August 23, 2015 Report Share Posted August 23, 2015 Better team won, simple. I'm not upset as I thought we gave them a game. Matt and Quinn31 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shukes Posted August 23, 2015 Report Share Posted August 23, 2015 Me too, thought they were very smart taking two yellows as our players drove into thier area. Cleverly was storming forward and probably one more step from shooting. Lukaku had the ball in the net and also clipped the bar. Jags had a header come might close, as did Barry. Coleman came close too. They were just too good for us, and our defence failed and we're punished. Matt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paddock Posted August 23, 2015 Report Share Posted August 23, 2015 A keeper wasn't a priority was it ?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC11 Posted August 23, 2015 Report Share Posted August 23, 2015 A keeper wasn't a priority was it Tbh mate Howard made some good stops today - swings and roundabouts Matt and Quinn31 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elston Gunnn Posted August 23, 2015 Report Share Posted August 23, 2015 (edited) Elston, Browning doesn't look a LB because he's a CB/RB. When Galloway got injured we should've moved Barry to LB, put Cleverley CM and brought Mirallas on. Agree with every word. I didn't say Browning "doesn't look a" LB. I said, "Browning is no left back." I too would have preferred to see Barry moved to LB. Come to think of it, going forward I'd prefer to see Oviedo and Barry share LB duties until Galloway returns, at which point let the better of Oviedo and Browning be first-choice LB until Dec-Jan. If RM insists on Barry playing 90+ minutes every match, then let him move to LB in second half, and bring on Besic or a winger, depending on score and circumstance. Edited August 23, 2015 by Elston Gunnn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finn balor Posted August 23, 2015 Report Share Posted August 23, 2015 I've not read any posts regarding the 90. I thought we were beaten by the champs by far. We had some decent chances which could have made the game different but. It's obvious Barkley is better getting the ball from deep and starting the attacks. Which means Barry should be no where the team. McCarthy was poor but they should be our holding midfielders. Our subs were awful as usual. What can Gerry do with 5 mins? Fuck me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paddock Posted August 23, 2015 Report Share Posted August 23, 2015 Tbh mate Howard made some good stops today - swings and roundabouts I can't believe out of everyone it was you who said that!! He let Kolorov beat him at his near post from an almost impossible angle and got lobbed in his own 6 yard box. Any keeper would have made those saves . There's no point in him making the saves if he is going to let 2 soft goals in. They were both Howards fault he should have come out and picked Nasri up with the ball. Shocking goalkeeping and the reason we didn't get a point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finn balor Posted August 23, 2015 Report Share Posted August 23, 2015 First goal was piss poor keeping. He got beat on his near post. We need a top goalie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finn balor Posted August 23, 2015 Report Share Posted August 23, 2015 I can't believe out of everyone it was you who said that!! He let Kolorov beat him at his near post from an almost impossible angle and got lobbed in his own 6 yard box. Any keeper would have made those saves . There's no point in him making the saves if he is going to let 2 soft goals in. They were both Howards fault he should have come out and picked Nasri up with the ball. Shocking goalkeeping and the reason we didn't get a point. I agree with the first goal but the second was pure quality Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC11 Posted August 23, 2015 Report Share Posted August 23, 2015 First goal was piss poor keeping. He got beat on his near post. We need a top goalie Let's rewind back and ask why Kolorov and Nasri are able to shoot from such close proximity. He made some very very good saves today. Matt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paddock Posted August 23, 2015 Report Share Posted August 23, 2015 First goal was piss poor keeping. He got beat on his near post. We need a top goalie It was a disgusting goal to let in. I swear to god Kolarov would not of beat me from that angle at that near post. I almost screamed my fucking lungs up when it went in they were having one of those days in front of goal until Coco took centre stage. I'm still shaking with rage over it now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith B Posted August 23, 2015 Report Share Posted August 23, 2015 If we'd have lost 2-1, I'd be more upset with Howard. But you really can't hope to draw 0-0 with City. They have too much attacking talent so you've got to score goals. Yes the first goal was soft but we barely threatened Hart. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paddock Posted August 23, 2015 Report Share Posted August 23, 2015 Let's rewind back and ask why Kolorov and Nasri are able to shoot from such close proximity. He made some very very good saves today. It doesn't matter why he should have saved the first one and he should not get lobbed at that range for the second. I guarantee a top class goalie would have been off his line and on top of Nasri before he has chance to do that. He can make 10 worldies but they're useless if he is gonna let a shit goal in like that. They only get the second because we are pushing on for an equaliser. Howards fault and that will be repeated all season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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