Hafnia Posted September 10, 2015 Report Share Posted September 10, 2015 We'd be absolutely nuts to agree to a release clause that low. I don't think they ever did bid £38m, Haf, there was never a fourth bid according to Martinez. It was reported but I think that one may have been a "ooh lets see how people react to that" Ultimately his value in the summer will possibly come down to Tywoyasauwus Wex and if he decides to throw yard dog Smalling in the team. Regardless of that my position on the lad is that he will be an england great and worth £80m plus in a few years - thats when Real will come knocking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC11 Posted September 10, 2015 Report Share Posted September 10, 2015 I think his value will drop if we have another piss poor season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted September 10, 2015 Report Share Posted September 10, 2015 I think his value will drop if we have another piss poor season. next season with the TV money Liverpool would probably make a profit on Lovren! Stones ain't gonna reduce in price, too good, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trigger Posted September 10, 2015 Report Share Posted September 10, 2015 To me whether £38m was bid or not isn't too important. At the moment Stones is contracted to us for another 4 years at £30k per week. At the moment we can keep him for 4years and sell completely on our own terms. Great! If Stones (and probably more his agent) want to renegotiate the deal for higher wages and to set some "buy-out" conditions for European Football etc. then this is a negotiation where BOTH parties get something out of it. Ultimately Stones and his agent want more money. The contract was only signed last season and Stone's isn't struggling for first team or International football time so money has to be the main motivation for the new contract. If the main motivation is not money and is to negotiate a "way out" for Stones on Stones and his agent's terms, there is obviously absolutely reason to have any re-negotiation or discussion. Not going to happen. If it about wages then in return we get: -1) extended Term of Contract given his youth and this makes him harder to poach. -2)massive buy-out clause that is at a significant premium to the £38m odd. I would suggest in the region of £50m. We continue to set the standard that if you want an Everton talent you are going t pay well over the odds for it. Full Stop. This is non-negotiable if a new contract is wanted by Stones - 3) large loyalty bonus to incentivise Stones to stay with us throughout the full term of the contract and to 2) is non-negotiable, but 1) and 3) should be directly linked to the amount of wage increase. The more money per week and outside the Everton Wage Scale, the more draconian we are about 1 and 3. You want £100k a week. No problem. That will be 8 year contract with no buyout clause then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncanmckenzieismagic Posted September 10, 2015 Report Share Posted September 10, 2015 https://www.facebook.com/Everton/videos/10152970912836277/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted September 10, 2015 Report Share Posted September 10, 2015 https://www.facebook.com/Everton/videos/10152970912836277/ I saw that during the full interview, priceless. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted September 11, 2015 Report Share Posted September 11, 2015 http://www.express.co.uk/sport/football/604423/Transfer-News-Everton-Bill-Kenwright-discusses-John-Stones-future Matt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncanmckenzieismagic Posted September 12, 2015 Report Share Posted September 12, 2015 http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-3231244/Everton-sell-John-Stones-makes-financial-success-reveals-Roberto-Martinez.html?ITO=1490&ns_mchannel=rss&ns_campaign=1490 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted September 12, 2015 Report Share Posted September 12, 2015 Oohh no doubt the Chelsea forums take that as a "selling club, lets get him for £39m" Can't stand them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sibdane Posted September 12, 2015 Report Share Posted September 12, 2015 Can't buy me Stones. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted September 12, 2015 Report Share Posted September 12, 2015 He even found the composure to take the piss out of their attackers today. Cool. As. A. Cucumber. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncanmckenzieismagic Posted September 12, 2015 Report Share Posted September 12, 2015 https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=xbbDrM_GOmI This got a few airings today, love this song! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted September 12, 2015 Report Share Posted September 12, 2015 Professional. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcopaulo Posted September 12, 2015 Report Share Posted September 12, 2015 Unreal so far from what I've seen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted September 13, 2015 Report Share Posted September 13, 2015 Phil McNulty... "The failure to land Stones was put into even sharper relief by the youngster's superb performance in front of Mourinho at Goodison Park. Mature and level-headed enough to put the speculation behind him, Stones delivered the sort of Rolls Royce display that made Chelsea so keen to secure him. Stones showed the sort of assurance, class, pace and reliability that is just what Chelsea's rocking rearguard needs right now." Romey 1878 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted September 13, 2015 Report Share Posted September 13, 2015 Phil McNulty... "The failure to land Stones was put into even sharper relief by the youngster's superb performance in front of Mourinho at Goodison Park. Mature and level-headed enough to put the speculation behind him, Stones delivered the sort of Rolls Royce display that made Chelsea so keen to secure him. Stones showed the sort of assurance, class, pace and reliability that is just what Chelsea's rocking rearguard needs right now." I imagine Jose texted abramhomich after the match "now you know why I told you not to be cheap about it, pay them whatever they want for him" Upped his value a cool 10m after that match Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcirony Posted September 14, 2015 Report Share Posted September 14, 2015 http://www.skysports.com/football/news/15134/9990304/john-stones-was-immense-in-everton8217s-3-1-win-over-chelsea Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevO Posted September 14, 2015 Report Share Posted September 14, 2015 I thought he did everything right on Saturday. From being the first player to run over to the Gwladys before kick off, the last man off the pitch clapping all of the fans, and looking as happy as ever when that third goal went in. He could easily have crumbled, the worlds press were watching him, it was big pressure. He just took it like a Sunday league match. The lad is exceptional. Matt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted September 15, 2015 Report Share Posted September 15, 2015 http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/michael-ball-john-stones-should-10054659 Good read regarding Barkley in this article too. I particularly enjoyed reading that kone celebrated like a mad man for the 3rd whilst on the bench. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted September 15, 2015 Report Share Posted September 15, 2015 http://www.espnfc.us/blog/transfer-talk/79/post/2612699/real-madrid-to-join-hunt-for-john-stones-if-varane-leaves this is what i was saying all along. Real madrid now want stones if Varane leaves this summer (which seems likely). Better to sell internationally to get the highest fee and we wouldn't have to face him 2 times a year. this is playing out exactly as it should. F off Chelsea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cornish Steve Posted September 15, 2015 Report Share Posted September 15, 2015 http://www.espnfc.us/blog/transfer-talk/79/post/2612699/real-madrid-to-join-hunt-for-john-stones-if-varane-leaves this is what i was saying all along. Real madrid now want stones if Varane leaves this summer (which seems likely). Better to sell internationally to get the highest fee and we wouldn't have to face him 2 times a year. this is playing out exactly as it should. F off Chelsea. Nope. The way it should be playing out is that Everton win a Champions League birth this season, John Stones has no reason to leave, and we sign players from Real Madrid. They must be young players, mind, because we're building a legacy, a team that will stay together for the best part of a decade. efc1111 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted September 15, 2015 Report Share Posted September 15, 2015 Nope. The way it should be playing out is that Everton win a Champions League birth this season, John Stones has no reason to leave, and we sign players from Real Madrid. They must be young players, mind, because we're building a legacy, a team that will stay together for the best part of a decade. As much as I love Everton we aren't going to be in any position to pay players £120k a week. So there is no chance. markjazzbassist 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted September 15, 2015 Report Share Posted September 15, 2015 Nope. The way it should be playing out is that Everton win a Champions League birth this season, John Stones has no reason to leave, and we sign players from Real Madrid. They must be young players, mind, because we're building a legacy, a team that will stay together for the best part of a decade. nice dream mate, here's hoping! markjazzbassist 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c1982 Posted September 26, 2015 Report Share Posted September 26, 2015 I can see why Chelsea wanted Stones so badly, they're a shambles at the back. It will be interesting to see if Jose's successor comes in for him again in January. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted October 6, 2015 Report Share Posted October 6, 2015 He's withdrawn from the England squad. Hardly a surprise. Matt and markjazzbassist 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted October 7, 2015 Report Share Posted October 7, 2015 http://www.goal.com/en-gb/news/2896/premier-league/2015/10/06/16085242/-? Matt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted October 7, 2015 Report Share Posted October 7, 2015 He's withdrawn from the England squad. Hardly a surprise. Glad to be honest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deacs Posted October 7, 2015 Report Share Posted October 7, 2015 He's withdrawn from the England squad. Hardly a surprise. No surprise, but still pleasing to hear. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elston Gunnn Posted October 8, 2015 Report Share Posted October 8, 2015 Glad to be honest. Because England have already qualified and are assured winning their group, his withdrawal has virtually no drawbacks. As Euro 2016 doesn't begin until next June, there's plenty of time for all center half candidates to make their case for starting. I suppose one could claim that this is a missed opportunity for Hodgson to see which CH pairs work best with each other, but I don't see a clear cut decision on that as likely to be made so far in advance. More important is for Jagielka and Stones to lead Everton to a great season, which would surely tempt Hodgson to pair them up as first choice next summer in France. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted October 8, 2015 Report Share Posted October 8, 2015 Anyone see cahill getting the runaround vs southampton - made me laugh.... apparently stones wouldn't have improved their defence and all he was "potential". I guess a few of them wouldn't have begrudged spending £50m plus now. Arrogant clowns Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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