c1982 Posted March 7, 2022 Report Share Posted March 7, 2022 2 minutes ago, Gwlad all over said: I hate coming down on players but he has to go. Who would take him?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevO Posted March 7, 2022 Report Share Posted March 7, 2022 Great finish though Sorry, humour to make me feel better. Romey 1878 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gwlad Posted March 7, 2022 Report Share Posted March 7, 2022 Burnley? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c1982 Posted March 7, 2022 Report Share Posted March 7, 2022 1 minute ago, Gwlad all over said: Burnley? He wouldn’t take the pay cut - and why should he? We gave him the contract! Tarkowski will probably be going on a free this summer but still can’t see it sadly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevO Posted March 7, 2022 Report Share Posted March 7, 2022 Just now, c1982 said: He wouldn’t take the pay cut - and why should he? We gave him the contract! Tarkowski will probably be going on a free this summer but still can’t see it sadly. Wouldn’t mind Tarkowski, or Mee, fuck it I’ll take anyone tonight. Gwlad 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c1982 Posted March 7, 2022 Report Share Posted March 7, 2022 We probably should have resigned Jagielka in January!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Btay Posted March 7, 2022 Report Share Posted March 7, 2022 The prem is just to much for him. For such a big guy he is not physical and he is not aware. For his own sake and most importantly ours he needs to go. I actually think he would be suited to Italy and could do quite well for the rest of his career there but he is a disaster for us here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badaids Posted March 7, 2022 Report Share Posted March 7, 2022 Keane is perfectly adequate in his skills and qualities. The problem is that he can't cut out the errors and the second that something goes wrong with his game he goes to pieces. Vicious circle. His body language is terrifying - you can see on his face that his head's completely goneand it's evident that he doesn't want to be on the pitch. I wonder if he even wants to pull on the shirt any more, the pressure and abuse he gets must feel horrible. I know he's had problems with mental health and I feel sorry for him for that but he's just got to go. I'd be quite happy to see any other centre back have his place for the rest of the season. There's be plenty of takers at other clubs, fresh start. One of the worst centre backs I've seen at the club; yet he's played getting on for 200 games for us. Bailey 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gwlad Posted March 7, 2022 Report Share Posted March 7, 2022 7 minutes ago, Btay said: The prem is just to much for him. For such a big guy he is not physical and he is not aware. For his own sake and most importantly ours he needs to go. I actually think he would be suited to Italy and could do quite well for the rest of his career there but he is a disaster for us here. Psychologially I think he needs to be in a comfort zone, can be consistent but not a game changer. Bailey 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c1982 Posted March 7, 2022 Report Share Posted March 7, 2022 7 minutes ago, StevO said: Wouldn’t mind Tarkowski, or Mee, fuck it I’ll take anyone tonight. Lampard supposedly wanted Tarkowski (and Rice) at Chelsea before he was sacked. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palfy Posted March 7, 2022 Report Share Posted March 7, 2022 He can’t defend running back to the goal when he’s in the area facing up the pitch he isn’t brilliant but he can hold his own, either Lampard play’s to his attributes which aren’t many or he stops selecting him, otherwise relegation could be a very big possibility. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted March 7, 2022 Report Share Posted March 7, 2022 1 hour ago, StevO said: Great finish though Sorry, humour to make me feel better. I bet if he had tried to finish it he would have missed. That was a car crash for him tonight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevO Posted March 8, 2022 Report Share Posted March 8, 2022 Wouldn’t have changed the game, but for Kanes first he clearly fouls Keane. He’s pretty much got him in a headlock and then runs away while Keane is getting up. The VAR didn’t even look at it, but Kane looks around to see where Keane is and then reaches behind and pulls him down under his arm. We’d have still been smashed to bits tonight, but I can’t believe it wasn’t even looked at. Wiggytop 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Btay Posted March 8, 2022 Report Share Posted March 8, 2022 At this rate we could almost play Rondon at Cb and Keane up top. Rondon has kept the ball out of the net for all bar one game and Keane’s banging them in or assisting AlbanyNYToffee, dunlopp9987, Shukes and 1 other 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shukes Posted March 8, 2022 Report Share Posted March 8, 2022 Still fuming at jogging back twenty yards behind Kane. Nothing worse for me than just thinking…. Oh he’ll probably score so I won’t bother wasting energy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted March 8, 2022 Report Share Posted March 8, 2022 1 hour ago, Shukes said: Still fuming at jogging back twenty yards behind Kane. Nothing worse for me than just thinking…. Oh he’ll probably score so I won’t bother wasting energy. The least you do is make the striker feel like there is a tackle coming in. Kane had time to settle. Unbelievable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted March 8, 2022 Report Share Posted March 8, 2022 2 hours ago, Shukes said: Still fuming at jogging back twenty yards behind Kane. Nothing worse for me than just thinking…. Oh he’ll probably score so I won’t bother wasting energy. I think that may have been him running . AlbanyNYToffee, Bailey and Shukes 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shukes Posted March 8, 2022 Report Share Posted March 8, 2022 3 hours ago, Hafnia said: The least you do is make the striker feel like there is a tackle coming in. Kane had time to settle. Unbelievable. Haf, I make sure my U10s know not to wait for a refs whistle. I also tell them examples of players getting back just as a striker takes that one extra step. I was fuming watching that! Feel like we should get rid of 90% of this team. Think I need a few days to get over that embarrassment haha. Hafnia 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nyblue23 Posted March 8, 2022 Report Share Posted March 8, 2022 17 hours ago, StevO said: Wouldn’t have changed the game, but for Kanes first he clearly fouls Keane. He’s pretty much got him in a headlock and then runs away while Keane is getting up. The VAR didn’t even look at it, but Kane looks around to see where Keane is and then reaches behind and pulls him down under his arm. We’d have still been smashed to bits tonight, but I can’t believe it wasn’t even looked at. Keane shouldn’t be getting bullied by someone who weighs half as much as him. This is just more of an indictment on him than anything else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevO Posted March 8, 2022 Report Share Posted March 8, 2022 5 minutes ago, nyblue23 said: Keane shouldn’t be getting bullied by someone who weighs half as much as him. This is just more of an indictment on him than anything else. Not sure why you would think Harry Kane weighs half as much as him. Kane is a big lad, I agree he needs to be stronger in that situation. But if one of our players put his arm around a Spurs players head it’s a foul all day long. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badaids Posted March 8, 2022 Report Share Posted March 8, 2022 Lampard said he was taken off as he was feeling unwell, not injury or concussion didn’t he? I took that to be it was a mental health / heads gone issue. If so I think it’s best for him as much as anything that he’s taken out of the firing line for a bit. I feel sorry for him to be honest, but if we stay up it’ll be by slim margins and can’t be doing with having him in our defence scoring own goals and own assists. Wiggytop 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Hafnia Posted March 8, 2022 Popular Post Report Share Posted March 8, 2022 39 minutes ago, badaids said: Lampard said he was taken off as he was feeling unwell, not injury or concussion didn’t he? I took that to be it was a mental health / heads gone issue. If so I think it’s best for him as much as anything that he’s taken out of the firing line for a bit. I feel sorry for him to be honest, but if we stay up it’ll be by slim margins and can’t be doing with having him in our defence scoring own goals and own assists. I’ve suffered with mental health as have many. I’m sure he will get the help he needs if it is that he is struggling with. i wish him well. He clearly needs to be away from football if it is. badaids, Matt, Romey 1878 and 4 others 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patto Posted March 8, 2022 Report Share Posted March 8, 2022 Keane never trained all week before the city game he was ill but still played it we go with a new defence against Wolves it's suicide our last home performances have been decent we can win at home with just a couple of changes. StevO and Palfy 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palfy Posted March 8, 2022 Report Share Posted March 8, 2022 1 hour ago, patto said: Keane never trained all week before the city game he was ill but still played it we go with a new defence against Wolves it's suicide our last home performances have been decent we can win at home with just a couple of changes. I agree wholesale changes of players isn’t the answer. RuffRob 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Btay Posted March 8, 2022 Report Share Posted March 8, 2022 1 hour ago, patto said: Keane never trained all week before the city game he was ill but still played it we go with a new defence against Wolves it's suicide our last home performances have been decent we can win at home with just a couple of changes. Sorry mate but there’s been excuses like this pop up every time over the last 3/4 years. I wouldn’t and I don’t want to see any one suffer from mental health - I have no doubts he’s a good bloke, he comes across that way in every media commitment he does but he is not in a good way and if we keep putting him out there it’s only going to damage him more and definitely see us relegated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aidan Posted March 8, 2022 Report Share Posted March 8, 2022 4 hours ago, badaids said: Lampard said he was taken off as he was feeling unwell, not injury or concussion didn’t he? I took that to be it was a mental health / heads gone issue. If so I think it’s best for him as much as anything that he’s taken out of the firing line for a bit. I feel sorry for him to be honest, but if we stay up it’ll be by slim margins and can’t be doing with having him in our defence scoring own goals and own assists. It pretty much summs up his mental fragility if he has to be taken off half way through a game, assuming it is to do with his mental health. Putting aside the possibility he has other things outside of football impacting it, he's far from mentally strong enough to play at the level we want to be at. A girl who I work with who has been in contact with him mum since when he was at Burnley and she told me he really wasn't enjoying his football prior to Carlo coming to Everton. I'd guess he has gone back to not enjoying it again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted March 9, 2022 Report Share Posted March 9, 2022 9 hours ago, Palfy said: I agree wholesale changes of players isn’t the answer. Normally that's my answer too. But I think this time it is the only answer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted March 9, 2022 Report Share Posted March 9, 2022 I think I said we needed 2 centre halves in Jan - how true was that. Lampard tried to make that happen, but hey the club ditched the DOF before the window, absolute madness. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palfy Posted March 9, 2022 Report Share Posted March 9, 2022 7 hours ago, Matt said: Normally that's my answer too. But I think this time it is the only answer. I meant this week and till the end of the the season, next season definitely look at wholesale changes, I worry that if we make to many changes now will they gel or be better in time to get us away from the drop, 2 or 3 now not a problem just to mix it up a bit, but 6, 7 or 8 now could be very counter productive, thank goodness at home we are more than holding our own, and away from home we need maybe to go into games with a different system especially against teams with pace up front, defend deeper to nullify their pace. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patto Posted March 10, 2022 Report Share Posted March 10, 2022 On 09/03/2022 at 07:21, Matt said: Normally that's my answer too. But I think this time it is the only answer. Name your defence then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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