Matt Posted November 10, 2016 Report Share Posted November 10, 2016 http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/everton-moshiri-lukaku-koeman-talksport-12156439 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted November 10, 2016 Report Share Posted November 10, 2016 http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/everton-moshiri-lukaku-koeman-talksport-12156439 He has to say that though doesn't he? Was the inevitable response; but nobody will buy it, not taken out of context at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palfy Posted November 10, 2016 Report Share Posted November 10, 2016 If Moshori is coming out with that statement it must be highly embarrassing to the board that he said it just proves it's wrong or they wouldn't bother to mention it and try and water it down still can't believe some supporters think he is right to have said what he said and are prepared to defend him for saying it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted November 10, 2016 Report Share Posted November 10, 2016 He has to say that though doesn't he? Was the inevitable response; but nobody will buy it, not taken out of context at all. I like to think that a very frank conversation took place and koeman is left in no uncertain terms where he stands. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted November 10, 2016 Report Share Posted November 10, 2016 I like to think that a very frank conversation took place and koeman is left in no uncertain terms where he stands.that would contradict what he said in the interview about leaving Koeman to it and only doing the "hiring and firing" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncanmckenzieismagic Posted November 10, 2016 Report Share Posted November 10, 2016 Your job as the manager of any club is to promote the the club you are at as the best team you can play for whether that is Chester,Everton or Barcelona,what has done is the same as a car salesman saying don't buy this Fiat of me go down the road and buy a Ford of him there much better, the Fiat garage will struggle the Ford garage would prosper and the salesman can say not my problem I was only telling the truth. That is know way to run a business to come out with the comments he did is running your own business down [emoji23][emoji23][emoji23][emoji23] I can just imagine Jon McCarthy getting on the blower to Ronaldo and telling him he should make the step up from Rail Madrid and sign for a real big club like Chester We've just got rid of a manager who talks absolute shite so why would we want another one? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paddock Posted November 13, 2016 Author Report Share Posted November 13, 2016 Has anyone else noticed he never says "us" he always talks about us in the 3rd person. Not entirely sure his hearts in this job Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted November 13, 2016 Report Share Posted November 13, 2016 Has anyone else noticed he never says "us" he always talks about us in the 3rd person. Not entirely sure his hearts in this job Moyes was still doing that after a decade. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted November 14, 2016 Report Share Posted November 14, 2016 Has anyone else noticed he never says "us" he always talks about us in the 3rd person. Not entirely sure his hearts in this job Yes. Pisses me off. If players spoke like that you would rightly question it... the manager needs to lead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paddock Posted November 14, 2016 Author Report Share Posted November 14, 2016 Moyes was still doing that after a decade. He never mate, Moyes still calls Everron "we" Moyes loyalty (up until he left us ) was unquestionable. I'm not sure Koemans attitude towards us in general worries me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted November 14, 2016 Report Share Posted November 14, 2016 He never mate, Moyes still calls Everron "we" Moyes loyalty (up until he left us ) was unquestionable. I'm not sure Koemans attitude towards us in general worries me. Nah, he might have said we sometimes but it wasn't exclusive thing at all. Plenty of times throughout his time with us he spoke about us the same way Koeman does. Moyes still doing it after all that time bothered me but I'm not arsed about Koeman doing it when he's been here a few months. He won't be here still doing it in 10 years anyway, and to be honest, I don't need or even particularly want him to love Everton, I want him to make us win. He does that and I couldn't give a shit if he says Everton rather than we in every interview he gives. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted November 14, 2016 Report Share Posted November 14, 2016 http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/koeman-everton-premier-league-title-12171640 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted November 14, 2016 Report Share Posted November 14, 2016 http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/koeman-everton-premier-league-title-12171640 He said we. Get the party poppers out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted November 14, 2016 Report Share Posted November 14, 2016 We shall go on to the end. We shall fight in France, we shall fight on the seas and oceans, we shall fight with growing confidence and growing strength in the air... We shall defend our Island, whatever the cost may be; we shall fight on the beaches, we shall fight on the landing grounds, we shall fight in the fields and in the streets, we shall fight in the hills; we shall never surrender Now change "we" to "the allied forces" and it doesn't hit home as powerfully does it? - its because "we" suggests togetherness.... its leadership in action. Referring to the third party doesn't inspire those who are part of the overall aim. Koeman needs to maybe understand this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted November 14, 2016 Report Share Posted November 14, 2016 http://www.hitc.com/en-gb/2016/11/13/bkronald-koeman-sights-holland-job/ its ok folks.... he's just ambitious. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paddock Posted November 14, 2016 Author Report Share Posted November 14, 2016 Yes. Pisses me off. If players spoke like that you would rightly question it... the manager needs to lead. He just gives me the impression he's not overly fussed and he looks like he knows he's made a mistake. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paddock Posted November 14, 2016 Author Report Share Posted November 14, 2016 Nah, he might have said we sometimes but it wasn't exclusive thing at all. Plenty of times throughout his time with us he spoke about us the same way Koeman does. Moyes still doing it after all that time bothered me but I'm not arsed about Koeman doing it when he's been here a few months. He won't be here still doing it in 10 years anyway, and to be honest, I don't need or even particularly want him to love Everton, I want him to make us win. He does that and I couldn't give a shit if he says Everton rather than we in every interview he gives. If his heart isn't in it he'll do fuck all no matter where he is. He just looks disolutioned already to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cornish Steve Posted November 14, 2016 Report Share Posted November 14, 2016 When a manager demonstrates true commitment and has a clear long-term strategy, then I can understand challenges in the short-term; it takes a while to switch from one strategy to another. When a manager views Everton as a stepping stone and clearly has his sights set elsewhere, long-term strategy becomes less of a focus and short-term gains are more important. Combine being beaten by Burnley and Norwich and thrashed by Chelsea with a manager who does not seem committed to the team - while being paid a fortune - and I'm genuinely concerned. He needs to make clear immediately his total commitment if he wants to right the ship. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paddock Posted November 14, 2016 Author Report Share Posted November 14, 2016 When a manager demonstrates true commitment and has a clear long-term strategy, then I can understand challenges in the short-term; it takes a while to switch from one strategy to another. When a manager views Everton as a stepping stone and clearly has his sights set elsewhere, long-term strategy becomes less of a focus and short-term gains are more important. Combine being beaten by Burnley and Norwich and thrashed by Chelsea with a manager who does not seem committed to the team - while being paid a fortune - and I'm genuinely concerned. He needs to make clear immediately his total commitment if he wants to right the ship. Yep, I just don't think we're the right fit for each other. He's saying all the wrong things for me. He sees us as a big payday and a slight step up from Soton on his way to better things. I know I moaned about Martinez but this fella is as bad but for different reasons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted November 14, 2016 Report Share Posted November 14, 2016 Not likely to make any more fans after this: https://www.theguardian.com/football/2016/nov/14/liverpool-everton-premier-league-title-contenders-ronald-koeman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted November 14, 2016 Report Share Posted November 14, 2016 Not likely to make any more fans after this: https://www.theguardian.com/football/2016/nov/14/liverpool-everton-premier-league-title-contenders-ronald-koeman That one doesn't bother me in the slightest. Romey 1878 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shukes Posted November 14, 2016 Report Share Posted November 14, 2016 He's right, they deserve to be there..... wankers! Romey 1878 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palfy Posted November 14, 2016 Report Share Posted November 14, 2016 Well if he's an admirer of Klopp hopefully he might learn some of is managerial skills especially man management you can see that he respects his players and they would run through walls for him you don't feel that with our lads if truth be known most would like to run him to John Lennon airport Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paddock Posted November 14, 2016 Author Report Share Posted November 14, 2016 Not likely to make any more fans after this: https://www.theguardian.com/football/2016/nov/14/liverpool-everton-premier-league-title-contenders-ronald-koeman He's either not arsed or he doesn't get it. I doubt he's stupid enough not to get it so I'll draw my ownconclusions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted November 14, 2016 Report Share Posted November 14, 2016 Liverpool are definately in with a shout. Talk them up now I say. Put the pressure on them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted November 14, 2016 Report Share Posted November 14, 2016 Nah, he might have said we sometimes but it wasn't exclusive thing at all. Plenty of times throughout his time with us he spoke about us the same way Koeman does. Moyes still doing it after all that time bothered me but I'm not arsed about Koeman doing it when he's been here a few months. He won't be here still doing it in 10 years anyway, and to be honest, I don't need or even particularly want him to love Everton, I want him to make us win. He does that and I couldn't give a shit if he says Everton rather than we in every interview he gives. To be fair, Moyes talks about himself in the 3rd person so he had no chance when he was talking about us! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncanmckenzieismagic Posted November 15, 2016 Report Share Posted November 15, 2016 http://www.joe.co.uk/sport/ronald-koemans-honesty-is-just-what-everton-need-to-move-forward/97939 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lowensda Posted November 16, 2016 Report Share Posted November 16, 2016 People liked his honesty when he talks about someone they don't like (Kone) don't like his honesty when it's about player they do (Lukaku). Rough with the smooth lads. Honest is honest. He's just an employee. duncanmckenzieismagic 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncanmckenzieismagic Posted November 16, 2016 Report Share Posted November 16, 2016 https://www.theguardian.com/football/blog/2016/nov/16/ronald-koeman-everton-romelu-lukaku-liverpool Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted November 16, 2016 Report Share Posted November 16, 2016 I swear there are journalists who just float around TT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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