c1982 Posted July 19, 2023 Report Share Posted July 19, 2023 3 minutes ago, Tonsta said: Wow you think hes a decent striker. Decent player? Yes. Better than what we currently have (Maupay, Gray and Cannon) but I’m not 100% behind this signing as I’m not sure if he’d be useful in the system we’d play… much in the same way that I’d happily sell Gray on the basis that I don’t see where he fits in a Dyche team e.g. not good enough defensively on the wing and not effective enough as a striker. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevO Posted July 20, 2023 Report Share Posted July 20, 2023 16 hours ago, Tonsta said: He was that good a striker his team were relegated. So by that token James Maddison is shit as well? Jordan Pickford too? It take a whole team to get relegated. Not just one player. Matt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palfy Posted July 20, 2023 Report Share Posted July 20, 2023 20 minutes ago, StevO said: So by that token James Maddison is shit as well? Jordan Pickford too? It take a whole team to get relegated. Not just one player. What I would say about Leicester and their players is on paper they had a pretty decent team, but very poor attitude and aptitude for digging out results when needed, so it could be said we should be keeping away from players who don’t give their all, and Leicester players are surely guilty of that above any team in last season’s PL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tonsta Posted July 20, 2023 Report Share Posted July 20, 2023 1 hour ago, StevO said: So by that token James Maddison is shit as well? Jordan Pickford too? It take a whole team to get relegated. Not just one player. Maddison was shit last season, but he has been very good, Iheanacho has never been good, look at his time there spent on the bench the last 4 years, speaks volume's about what they thought of him, not for me, and not for a fee. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted July 20, 2023 Report Share Posted July 20, 2023 8 minutes ago, Tonsta said: Maddison was shit last season, but he has been very good, Iheanacho has never been good, look at his time there spent on the bench the last 4 years, speaks volume's about what they thought of him, not for me, and not for a fee. He won player of the season for them last year, was instrumental in them winning the fa cup. scores a goal every 176 minutes, he’s in the top 10 for goals vs minutes for all prem players with at least 150 games played. for £10m he’s a no brainer. StevO, Matt Tiger and Matt 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wall Writer Posted July 20, 2023 Report Share Posted July 20, 2023 If he scores once every two games, over the course of the season that 15-20 goals, assuming he plays of course. Did anyone in our whole squad get double figures last season? I have the feeling of beggars can't be choosers and at this moment in time anyone is better than no-one. Matt Tiger, Sibdane, StevO and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tonsta Posted July 20, 2023 Report Share Posted July 20, 2023 2 hours ago, Hafnia said: He won player of the season for them last year, was instrumental in them winning the fa cup. scores a goal every 176 minutes, he’s in the top 10 for goals vs minutes for all prem players with at least 150 games played. for £10m he’s a no brainer. Correct leave him where he is. Stats are twisted any way you like, if you had watched him on a regular basis you would have a different opinion. Im well aware of our present predicament, and here we are arguing amongst our selves, about a bang average player,while the same 2 dickheads are driving us into oblivion, and are still in control of the club. We just have a difference of opinion you think he is better than what we have, and i don't, its allowed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fosse Captain Posted July 20, 2023 Report Share Posted July 20, 2023 39 minutes ago, Tonsta said: Correct leave him where he is. Stats are twisted any way you like, if you had watched him on a regular basis you would have a different opinion. Im well aware of our present predicament, and here we are arguing amongst our selves, about a bang average player,while the same 2 dickheads are driving us into oblivion, and are still in control of the club. We just have a difference of opinion you think he is better than what we have, and i don't, its allowed. Agreed. Stats can be manipulated. I trust the opinion of people I know who watch him week in / week out. He isn't that good. He isn't the answer. Purple patch player. He had it for a season. Like Origi across the park. All opinions tho, but he'd be yet another waste on a so called 'proven' PL player. Steer clear and spend the money elsewhere Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Tiger Posted July 20, 2023 Report Share Posted July 20, 2023 Well, not sure how you're manipulating goals / assists per minute... But point taken on production not showing everything you need to know to determine whether you should invest in bringing a player in. StevO 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shukes Posted July 20, 2023 Report Share Posted July 20, 2023 That’s stays grown and saying that he is a goal every 1.6 games not 4+. So either the stats are wrong, or he is a better goalscorer than anyone in our whole squad. StevO 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msloan78 Posted July 20, 2023 Report Share Posted July 20, 2023 I might be wrong, but pretty sure a large proportion of his games were coming off the bench which might skew the goals:minutes ratio. Leicester fans i know don't rate him. Let this one pass us by. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shukes Posted July 20, 2023 Report Share Posted July 20, 2023 7 minutes ago, msloan78 said: I might be wrong, but pretty sure a large proportion of his games were coming off the bench which might skew the goals:minutes ratio. Leicester fans i know don't rate him. Let this one pass us by. Yes his average game time from those stats are about 63 minutes if I remember right… which isn’t likely knowing my memory haha. So quite a low minutes per game average. msloan78 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevO Posted July 20, 2023 Report Share Posted July 20, 2023 2 hours ago, Tonsta said: Im well aware of our present predicament, and here we are arguing amongst our selves, about a bang average player,while the same 2 dickheads are driving us into oblivion, and are still in control of the club. Bang average would be an upgrade for us though. That’s the point. Bang average would keep us in the premier league. c1982, Matt and dunlopp9987 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevO Posted July 20, 2023 Report Share Posted July 20, 2023 1 hour ago, msloan78 said: I might be wrong, but pretty sure a large proportion of his games were coming off the bench which might skew the goals:minutes ratio. Leicester fans i know don't rate him. Let this one pass us by. Wouldn’t that be a good thing then? If he can come off the bench and score goals? Matt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted July 20, 2023 Report Share Posted July 20, 2023 8 hours ago, Tonsta said: Correct leave him where he is. Stats are twisted any way you like, if you had watched him on a regular basis you would have a different opinion. Im well aware of our present predicament, and here we are arguing amongst our selves, about a bang average player,while the same 2 dickheads are driving us into oblivion, and are still in control of the club. We just have a difference of opinion you think he is better than what we have, and i don't, its allowed. I don’t have an opinion on him. He won their player of the season and scores goals and can be had got cheap. Leicester hit relegated cos of their defence. Unless you can think of better strikers for £10m StevO and Matt 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c1982 Posted July 21, 2023 Report Share Posted July 21, 2023 There’s someone with a user name ‘toffeenut’ on another forum who obviously has links to the club who has cryptically confirmed (well if his clues have been deciphered correctly) that Iheanacho and Gnotto are in the pipeline. Alan Myers said 3 in and 3 out were near and has since said 2 could be done by the weekend… looks like Danjuma and Iheanacho as the 2 then. Both improve us in my opinion. I’d be a little (very!!!) worried about our squad post-Christmas as that’d be Gueye, Doucoure, Iwobi and Iheanacho off to the AFCON - that’d put a massive strain on an already poor squad. Matt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tonsta Posted July 21, 2023 Report Share Posted July 21, 2023 8 hours ago, Hafnia said: I don’t have an opinion on him. He won their player of the season and scores goals and can be had got cheap. Leicester hit relegated cos of their defence. Unless you can think of better strikers for £10m Yes Vardy, free agent, and the right age group for us now, and far superior stats, that people seem so interested in. I realise we are shopping in pound land now, but buying the same shit as Tosson, keane, maupay, Walcott, etc just making the same mistakes over and over but expecting a different result, give the kids a chance, now there is a novel idea. Fosse Captain and StevO 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted July 21, 2023 Report Share Posted July 21, 2023 2 hours ago, c1982 said: There’s someone with a user name ‘toffeenut’ on another forum who obviously has links to the club who has cryptically confirmed (well if his clues have been deciphered correctly) that Iheanacho and Gnotto are in the pipeline. Alan Myers said 3 in and 3 out were near and has since said 2 could be done by the weekend… looks like Danjuma and Iheanacho as the 2 then. Both improve us in my opinion. I’d be a little (very!!!) worried about our squad post-Christmas as that’d be Gueye, Doucoure, Iwobi and Iheanacho off to the AFCON - that’d put a massive strain on an already poor squad. Myers also said the second one is a striker, so that would tally. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted July 21, 2023 Report Share Posted July 21, 2023 3 hours ago, Tonsta said: Yes Vardy, free agent, and the right age group for us now, and far superior stats, that people seem so interested in. I realise we are shopping in pound land now, but buying the same shit as Tosson, keane, maupay, Walcott, etc just making the same mistakes over and over but expecting a different result, give the kids a chance, now there is a novel idea. Vardy? £120k a week wages. He went 3 months without scoring. Pace being his main asset is going rapidly and at 36 does not make sense. Iheanacho was preferred over him. give the kids a chance? As we have seen, scoring 20 goals in the championship means nothing. When playing against elite centre halves and goalkeepers relying on kids in a side with no goals? May as well book our place in championship now. https://twitter.com/tacticallymatt/status/1682325968319311872?s=46&t=mg59m5Gl3hiDq1wnQUDV4w Sibdane and Wall Writer 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tonsta Posted July 21, 2023 Report Share Posted July 21, 2023 11 minutes ago, Hafnia said: Vardy? £120k a week wages. He went 3 months without scoring. Pace being his main asset is going rapidly and at 36 does not make sense. Iheanacho was preferred over him. give the kids a chance? As we have seen, scoring 20 goals in the championship means nothing. When playing against elite centre halves and goalkeepers relying on kids in a side with no goals? May as well book our place in championship now. You want to carry on with the same old shit that does not work fine, thank god you were not in charge when Joe Royal got in the team at 16 years old. We have escaped the drop by the skin of our teeth and a lot of luck from the football gods, you want to carry that on fine, i dont i would take the chance on the kids, because buying all these tossers that no one wants, for 10 to 25 mil then giving them away free because no one else is as daft as us is strange thinking indeed. At least with one or 2 kids not a team full, if we do go down we would be in a much better position to return to the top level, buying people like KI is Moshri thinking and we know what we think of him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted July 21, 2023 Report Share Posted July 21, 2023 25 minutes ago, Tonsta said: You want to carry on with the same old shit that does not work fine, thank god you were not in charge when Joe Royal got in the team at 16 years old. We have escaped the drop by the skin of our teeth and a lot of luck from the football gods, you want to carry that on fine, i dont i would take the chance on the kids, because buying all these tossers that no one wants, for 10 to 25 mil then giving them away free because no one else is as daft as us is strange thinking indeed. At least with one or 2 kids not a team full, if we do go down we would be in a much better position to return to the top level, buying people like KI is Moshri thinking and we know what we think of him. So you mention we escaped relegation by “luck” and then say you would rather take a “chance” on the kids. so what is it? Are you favouring relying on luck of not cos you aren’t making sense? Joe royle got in the team at 16…. Rooney did too. Talking about two “men” at boys ages. To my knowledge we don’t have a Joe royle or a Wayne Rooney in the reserves. Nearest we have is Tom cannon who is getting a chance to prove it - so are you saying buy no one? Tried that last year didn’t we…. Worked well didn’t it. then you mention if we get relegated we will come back up with the kids?! Ffs. We have players on 100k a week with no relegation clauses who would be sold at cut price. Put the shovel down ffs. Matt, Shukes, Newty82 and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoof_It_Nev Posted July 21, 2023 Report Share Posted July 21, 2023 37 minutes ago, Hafnia said: So you mention we escaped relegation by “luck” and then say you would rather take a “chance” on the kids. so what is it? Are you favouring relying on luck of not cos you aren’t making sense? Joe royle got in the team at 16…. Rooney did too. Talking about two “men” at boys ages. To my knowledge we don’t have a Joe royle or a Wayne Rooney in the reserves. Nearest we have is Tom cannon who is getting a chance to prove it - so are you saying buy no one? Tried that last year didn’t we…. Worked well didn’t it. then you mention if we get relegated we will come back up with the kids?! Ffs. We have players on 100k a week with no relegation clauses who would be sold at cut price. Put the shovel down ffs. Kopite, don't bite. Matt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shukes Posted July 21, 2023 Report Share Posted July 21, 2023 He is hardly in the same bracket as Tosun and such. He is actually a decent player. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newty82 Posted July 21, 2023 Report Share Posted July 21, 2023 I think he's a decent player from when I've seen him. I think people, some, need to remember we only need 'decent' to improve massively! If we can get a few 'decent' players in, it'll save us having to play players way out of position when the inevitable injuries/suspensions kick in. This alone, in my opinion, will keep us clear of relegation. Also, price matters. We've wasted £20, 30, 40million on 'decent' players unproven in the Premiership who then couldn't cut it. If we can get players who we KNOW can play in the Premiership for ~£10mill...its a good deal for us in this moment in time. Not where we, as fans, want to be, but its the clubs reality. I'm a big believer in giving youth a chance. I still think the right kids will get a go this season London Blue, Matt and StevO 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tonsta Posted July 21, 2023 Report Share Posted July 21, 2023 5 hours ago, Hoof_It_Nev said: Kopite, don't bite. Kopite my arse, read my posts for the last 5 years, and the last game of the season then call me a kopite, its gobshite comments like that that really worries me about the class of person now following us, if someone does not agree with you he must be a wanker is that it, you make me sick with comments like that, dick head. Palfy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shukes Posted July 21, 2023 Report Share Posted July 21, 2023 Guys we all get frustrated sometimes….. it’s totally understandable being Everton fans haha. But we do all love this club and want the best for it. Let’s stick together. Newty82 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Matt Posted July 21, 2023 Popular Post Report Share Posted July 21, 2023 6 hours ago, Hoof_It_Nev said: Kopite, don't bite. No need for that. 36 minutes ago, Tonsta said: Kopite my arse, read my posts for the last 5 years, and the last game of the season then call me a kopite, its gobshite comments like that that really worries me about the class of person now following us, if someone does not agree with you he must be a wanker is that it, you make me sick with comments like that, dick head. No need for that either. Come on, lads. 48hrs until we've signed 3 players and we're marching up the table remember? dunlopp9987, Shukes, Sibdane and 3 others 3 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palfy Posted July 21, 2023 Report Share Posted July 21, 2023 8 minutes ago, Matt said: No need for that. Agreed. 9 minutes ago, Matt said: No need for that either. Not so sure very insulting to be called a Kopite if not in jest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted July 21, 2023 Report Share Posted July 21, 2023 21 minutes ago, Palfy said: Agreed. Not so sure very insulting to be called a Kopite if not in jest. 2 wrongs don't make a right Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Bailey Posted July 21, 2023 Popular Post Report Share Posted July 21, 2023 4 hours ago, Newty82 said: I think he's a decent player from when I've seen him. I think people, some, need to remember we only need 'decent' to improve massively! If we can get a few 'decent' players in, it'll save us having to play players way out of position when the inevitable injuries/suspensions kick in. This alone, in my opinion, will keep us clear of relegation. Also, price matters. We've wasted £20, 30, 40million on 'decent' players unproven in the Premiership who then couldn't cut it. If we can get players who we KNOW can play in the Premiership for ~£10mill...its a good deal for us in this moment in time. Not where we, as fans, want to be, but its the clubs reality. I'm a big believer in giving youth a chance. I still think the right kids will get a go this season I get this argument generally however a lot of people would have made similar comments about Maupay last season. Decent player or not, does Iheanacho fit in with how Dyche is likely to play. If he doesn't, if he costs £1mil or £100mil it won't matter as whatever it will be is a waste of money. Romey 1878, StevO, Newty82 and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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