Romey 1878 Posted April 9 Report Share Posted April 9 https://www.theguardian.com/football/2024/apr/09/premier-league-psr-profitability-sustainability-rules Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RuffRob Posted April 9 Report Share Posted April 9 2 hours ago, Palfy said: Exactly this, let’s now channel our anger into coming together and galvanising our strengths to beat the drop and stick to fingers up to the PL, as the saying goes don’t get angry get even, let the higher hierarchy of the club fight an appeal, let the team and fans fight to win every point available to us before the end of the season. Exactly this. The amount of points we have been deducted is quite astounding for the serverity of what Everton have actually done. If we do end up getting relegated it will be these 8 points deducted that take of us down. I have said it before this points deduction debarcle that we have endured all season have been like a tractor beam that has constantly pulled the team in to the relegation battle. We have a bit of breathing space of a 4 point gap on Sunday - boom we are back to being one defeat way from falling in to a relegation zone. Being in a relegation fight brings its own anxiaty and stress to footballing squad, and we have been artificially pulled into it most of the season. I really think the stress of it all on the playing and management over pretty much the whole 23/24 season has quite easily cost us 5-6 more points (maybe more). duncanmckenzieismagic, Wiggytop, Romey 1878 and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted April 9 Report Share Posted April 9 I think the FAB have been fantastic throughout all of this. Newty82 and StevO 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Btay Posted April 9 Report Share Posted April 9 3 hours ago, Palfy said: Exactly this, let’s now channel our anger into coming together and galvanising our strengths to beat the drop and stick to fingers up to the PL, as the saying goes don’t get angry get even, let the higher hierarchy of the club fight an appeal, let the team and fans fight to win every point available to us before the end of the season. Exactly right mate. We all have differing opinions on how this club can improve but the thing everyone can be unified on is we want our Everton to be the best club it can be. All in together now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted April 9 Report Share Posted April 9 Newty82 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted April 9 Report Share Posted April 9 Andros townsend said they were celebrating when we got 10 points.... FFS the idiot was getting paid by the money that we breached psr with. even if we survive the league needs properly regulating Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newty82 Posted April 9 Report Share Posted April 9 4 hours ago, Romey 1878 said: https://www.theguardian.com/football/2024/apr/09/premier-league-psr-profitability-sustainability-rules Key part of this is that of the 17 teams who have submitted their finances for last year (wonder who the 3 who haven't are?), total losses are £600mill. For ONE year! I often look at the turnovers of most PL clubs, vs their spend on transfers and wages, and wonder how most can stay within PSR? Well, clearly they can't. Hence, it all changes next year! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted April 9 Report Share Posted April 9 22 minutes ago, Newty82 said: I often look at the turnovers of most PL clubs, vs their spend on transfers and wages, and wonder how most can stay within PSR? Well, clearly they can't. Hence, it all changes next year! I simply do not believe that no club before us failed to stay within PSR. It's an impossibility in my opinion. Coincidentally clubs start failing it when the independent regulator is looking to be brought in, two clubs are charged and punished, all of a sudden there is an extremely quiet transfer window from all clubs. Hmm. Newty82 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palfy Posted April 9 Report Share Posted April 9 44 minutes ago, Newty82 said: Key part of this is that of the 17 teams who have submitted their finances for last year (wonder who the 3 who haven't are?), total losses are £600mill. For ONE year! I often look at the turnovers of most PL clubs, vs their spend on transfers and wages, and wonder how most can stay within PSR? Well, clearly they can't. Hence, it all changes next year! It does seem bizarre. Newty82 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Newty82 Posted April 9 Report Share Posted April 9 5 hours ago, Romey 1878 said: I simply do not believe that no club before us failed to stay within PSR. It's an impossibility in my opinion. Coincidentally clubs start failing it when the independent regulator is looking to be brought in, two clubs are charged and punished, all of a sudden there is an extremely quiet transfer window from all clubs. Hmm. Exactly. The January window was the quietest, wasn't it? The 'eco system' of the league collapsed. Now the rules are going to change... Romey 1878 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted April 9 Report Share Posted April 9 just starting to watch now.... I've been warned it's likely to make me feel very annoyed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted April 9 Report Share Posted April 9 57 minutes ago, Hafnia said: just starting to watch now.... I've been warned it's likely to make me feel very annoyed. Finished it. I think it was pretty balanced and done in the right way. It wasn't a hit piece but it clearly detailed the missed opportunities and why. I don't ever think another chairman will ever get away with Bill did - he knew how to work people and could act daft despite not being it. He wanted Everton as it was - it's as simple as that. dunlopp9987 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted April 10 Report Share Posted April 10 Luton aren't happy. https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/p0hpr7rp Newty82 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palfy Posted April 10 Report Share Posted April 10 6 minutes ago, Romey 1878 said: Luton aren't happy. https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/p0hpr7rp They need to concentrate on staying up through merit on the pitch, instead of acting like sad losers before the season’s over. I have no sympathy for people who look to prosper on others misery, if you want to succeed go and work for it. Newty82, Sev and StevO 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted April 10 Report Share Posted April 10 30 minutes ago, Palfy said: They need to concentrate on staying up through merit on the pitch, instead of acting like sad losers before the season’s over. I have no sympathy for people who look to prosper on others misery, if you want to succeed go and work for it. I'm more annoyed that he's yet another person that clearly does not understand anything and is still commenting. Fucking melon. MikeO 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted April 10 Report Share Posted April 10 1 hour ago, Palfy said: They need to concentrate on staying up through merit on the pitch, instead of acting like sad losers before the season’s over. I have no sympathy for people who look to prosper on others misery, if you want to succeed go and work for it. The whole thing is like some sort of medieval court of law. Desired outcomes vs fairness. if we stay up my appetite for the game will be minimal till the whole governance is investigated. wasn't aware the premier league owe money to grassroots going back to 1999. Scum StevO 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted April 10 Report Share Posted April 10 Dyche needs to play the interview to the players. Theres your team talk done. Palfy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted April 12 Report Share Posted April 12 https://www.theguardian.com/football/2024/apr/12/everton-paid-30m-interest-lender-rights-media-funding-links-with-tax-exile-documents-suggest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Popular Post Cornish Steve Posted April 13 Popular Post Report Share Posted April 13 On 13/04/2024 at 11:36, Romey 1878 said: There needs to be a thorough government audit of the Premier League since it appears to be a hive of corruption, deceit, and double standards. They'll probably plead the same defense as did the NFL in the US, that they're an entertainment organization that can do as they please, but that's not how the fans see it. It's become a complete and utter farce. StevO, Newty82, Palfy and 3 others 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palfy Posted April 13 Report Share Posted April 13 1 hour ago, Cornish Steve said: There needs to be a thorough government audit of the Premier League since it appears to be a hive of deceit and double standards. They'll probably plead the same defense as did the NFL in the US, that they're an entertainment organization that can do as they please, but that's not how the fans see it. It's become a complete and utter farce. You are right of course. But I can’t help thinking it would make a good non fiction film that could be entertaining in years to come. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted April 13 Report Share Posted April 13 Well..... maybe we need to sell goodison park to a "private" developer for £500m. That would sort psr out Palfy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palfy Posted April 13 Report Share Posted April 13 1 hour ago, Hafnia said: Well..... maybe we need to sell goodison park to a "private" developer for £500m. That would sort psr out Whether you meant it or not needs must, I know that the club wanted to turn into a community hub blah blah, but really can we actually afford to be that benevolent in our position, sell to the highest buyers and hopefully they will build construct something beneficial for the community, possibly HA housing for rent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c1982 Posted April 13 Report Share Posted April 13 2 hours ago, Palfy said: Whether you meant it or not needs must, I know that the club wanted to turn into a community hub blah blah, but really can we actually afford to be that benevolent in our position, sell to the highest buyers and hopefully they will build construct something beneficial for the community, possibly HA housing for rent. The cost of the purchase then knocking Goodison down and removing the ‘debris’ (seems disrespectful to our home), then the redevelopment cost… with property and land costs/value - basically, Moshiri/whoever are keeping Goodison as a community site as, really, that’s the only option - it’s not a sentimental gesture - it’s lack of value. In London, the land’s worth millions but not in our location unfortunately. Matt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palfy Posted April 14 Report Share Posted April 14 6 hours ago, c1982 said: The cost of the purchase then knocking Goodison down and removing the ‘debris’ (seems disrespectful to our home), then the redevelopment cost… with property and land costs/value - basically, Moshiri/whoever are keeping Goodison as a community site as, really, that’s the only option - it’s not a sentimental gesture - it’s lack of value. In London, the land’s worth millions but not in our location unfortunately. You are probably right about the land value in that area, in my location an acre of land for housing which has more value than commercial goes for around 750,000 per acre which will usually allow 16-32 units to be built depending on size and density. Where Goodison is maybe around 4-500,000 an acre but that’s a guess, plus I don’t know how many acres the site covers, as for the demolition you can sell with the site as or clean but the initial cost for demolition isn’t as big as some think with the cost of recycled materials at premium demolition companies are very competitive and in some cases do the work for next to nothing based on what the can get for the recycled materials. But with the club in the financial mess it is can they afford to develop the site for free, or should they sell the site, or should they give the site away for free to a company that is sympathetic to what they would like to see and still allowing a profit for the buyer. A few options available but I don’t think we are in a position to lose money on what ever decision is taken disrespectful or not to our heritage, unfortunately the decision where we could throw a few million at it is sadly gone due to the miss management of the club, and now we find ourselves needing to make a few million out of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Matt Posted April 15 Report Share Posted April 15 https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/68818485 Appeal launched. Romey 1878 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted April 15 Report Share Posted April 15 Apparently they're expediting the decision for the penultimate day of the season... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RuffRob Posted April 16 Report Share Posted April 16 16 hours ago, Matt said: Apparently they're expediting the decision for the penultimate day of the season... makes sense to do that - can't go in to the final round of games not knowing what is needed. I fucking hope we don't need to go to Arsenal needing any sort of result!!. Matt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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