Makis Posted August 9, 2015 Report Share Posted August 9, 2015 (edited) He owns Buffalo Sabres and at least they haven't exactly been great since he bought them, finishing dead last in the NHL last season and looking at their trades they have traded their best players for future draft picks and lesser players (Pominville for Hackett and Larsson? Miller and Ott for three lesser players and two draft picks?). I'm not too familiar with the goings on, I'll dig deeper if this really goes forward, but it definitely does not look like Pegula has been throwing money at Sabres. Edited August 9, 2015 by Makis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevO Posted August 9, 2015 Report Share Posted August 9, 2015 We don't need someone to throw money at it we need someone who can run a business first. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Makis Posted August 9, 2015 Report Share Posted August 9, 2015 Well, last season was so bad for Sabres that it will be remembered for a long time. They were so bad their own fans wanted them to loose a certain match so they would finish last because at least that would guarantee a top-two draft pick and they did end up with a future superstar (Jack Eichel). Their GM and coach have been replaced several times already. They also have one of the smallest budgets in the NHL (24th out of 30). But it's not necessarily that bad: http://www.buffalorumblings.com/buffalo-bills-opinion/2015/3/21/8265833/2015-bills-2011-sabres-offseasons-similar-kim-terry-pegula http://www.cbssports.com/nhl/eye-on-hockey/24702649/reviewing-terry-pegulas-tenure-as-buffalo-sabres-owner Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted August 10, 2015 Report Share Posted August 10, 2015 (edited) Just read up on them. He's willing to spend and had done so with a very small market team (buffalo is tiny and dwarfed in the same state as nyc). The thing with American sports is the salary cap, without that in the premier league I think he could make a good owner. Also his American connections alone would next some better sponsorship. Made his money in oil business. the stadium would be a profit machine for the new owner since there are a ton more games than American football (38 league to 16, plus cup matches) if he decided to fund and own it himself. Very interesting prospect. And makis he does own the bills, he owns both the Sabres and bills. Edited August 10, 2015 by markjazzbassist Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quinn31 Posted August 10, 2015 Report Share Posted August 10, 2015 He owns Buffalo Sabres and at least they haven't exactly been great since he bought them, finishing dead last in the NHL last season and looking at their trades they have traded their best players for future draft picks and lesser players (Pominville for Hackett and Larsson? Miller and Ott for three lesser players and two draft picks?). I'm not too familiar with the goings on, I'll dig deeper if this really goes forward, but it definitely does not look like Pegula has been throwing money at Sabres. He did throw a bunch of money and brought in a number of players when he first bought the Sabres. The team didn't reach the heights it was expected to so they got rid of all of their stars and have been trying to rebuild through draftpicks and young players ever since. It'll be at least a few years before they are competitive again but we'll see if the plan works. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted August 10, 2015 Report Share Posted August 10, 2015 He did throw a bunch of money and brought in a number of players when he first bought the Sabres. The team didn't reach the heights it was expected to so they got rid of all of their stars and have been trying to rebuild through draftpicks and young players ever since. It'll be at least a few years before they are competitive again but we'll see if the plan works. Yes, but that's with a salary cap. And his willingness to build that new arena, harbor centre or whatever it's called for them shows he's willing to spend his money. His decision once he bought the bills to hire Rex Ryan as coach was a master stroke I thought. They were made immediate contenders that day. I think they could make the playoffs this year. He definately opened the checkbook to get him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeQuince Posted August 10, 2015 Report Share Posted August 10, 2015 Pegula is a good owner. He really invests not only in the teams but the city as well. Huge part of why he bought the Bills was to ensure that they weren't taken to Toronto, which the NFL had been wanting to do. His investment with the Sabres has done a fair deal for downtown Buffalo in the past few years. He's even trying to bring the Bills stadium out of Orchard Park, NY (10-15 miles south of Buffalo) into downtown. If he took a role with Everton, we would see dramatic changes. And, there would definitely be investment in a stadium. He's a forward-thinking guy, but also very loyal to the fans. This would be major. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quinn31 Posted August 10, 2015 Report Share Posted August 10, 2015 Don't hold your breathe on it happening though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Makis Posted August 10, 2015 Report Share Posted August 10, 2015 Probability of this happening is less than 1%. And that's being generous because I suspect the probability of Everton being sold at all while Kenwright is still alive is about that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Makis Posted August 10, 2015 Report Share Posted August 10, 2015 this is a terrible post the guy is rumoured to be ill and you say this. Someone saw him the other day in a restaurant in good health. I don't expect him to go anytime soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted August 10, 2015 Report Share Posted August 10, 2015 Someone saw him the other day in a restaurant in good health. I don't expect him to go anytime soon. He's rumoured to have cancer, doesn't mean he can't go out for dinner... Pegula is a good owner. He really invests not only in the teams but the city as well. Huge part of why he bought the Bills was to ensure that they weren't taken to Toronto, which the NFL had been wanting to do. His investment with the Sabres has done a fair deal for downtown Buffalo in the past few years. He's even trying to bring the Bills stadium out of Orchard Park, NY (10-15 miles south of Buffalo) into downtown. If he took a role with Everton, we would see dramatic changes. And, there would definitely be investment in a stadium. He's a forward-thinking guy, but also very loyal to the fans. This would be major. Don't go getting me excited :shaking fist: Lowensda 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lowensda Posted August 10, 2015 Report Share Posted August 10, 2015 Someone saw him the other day in a restaurant in good health. I don't expect him to go anytime soon. I wouldn't be too sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
London Blue Posted August 10, 2015 Report Share Posted August 10, 2015 How many shrines do we have to build to the gods of football to make this happen? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lowensda Posted August 10, 2015 Report Share Posted August 10, 2015 How many shrines do we have to build to the gods of football to make this happen? To make what happen? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted August 10, 2015 Report Share Posted August 10, 2015 To make what happen? I'm pretty sure he doesn't mean for Kenwright to pop his clogs! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lowensda Posted August 10, 2015 Report Share Posted August 10, 2015 I'm pretty sure he doesn't mean for Kenwright to pop his clogs! I was going to say! Jesus. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
London Blue Posted August 10, 2015 Report Share Posted August 10, 2015 I meant for Pegula to take over! I love Everton but I draw the line at voodoo! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
London Blue Posted August 10, 2015 Report Share Posted August 10, 2015 I like Kenright hes a fan and loves the club. He is just not rich enough to chair a pl team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted August 10, 2015 Report Share Posted August 10, 2015 First and foremost - wanting a football club to do well plays second fiddle by far to the health and happiness of another human being. I'm all for us selling the club to an owner who can make this club great again - but it has to be in the right circumstances. I can be very critical of Bill Kenwright in a business sense but he stands for a lot of good when it comes to the image of our club. The way in which we conduct ourselves is very much down to the ethos and sentimentality he demonstrates - the hillsborough memorial was a prime example of the class he has in thise situations. I want Bill to step down and enjoy life, not have to face millitant blues who he can't really handle. Everton fans are passionate and will not sit back and see us slide further. The time is perfect for Bill to step away (it was 10 years ago) and I wish him and his family well and years of living in good health - not stress. Lowensda, Matt, Romey 1878 and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lowensda Posted August 10, 2015 Report Share Posted August 10, 2015 First and foremost - wanting a football club to do well plays second fiddle by far to the health and happiness of another human being. I'm all for us selling the club to an owner who can make this club great again - but it has to be in the right circumstances. I can be very critical of Bill Kenwright in a business sense but he stands for a lot of good when it comes to the image of our club. The way in which we conduct ourselves is very much down to the ethos and sentimentality he demonstrates - the hillsborough memorial was a prime example of the class he has in thise situations. I want Bill to step down and enjoy life, not have to face millitant blues who he can't really handle. Everton fans are passionate and will not sit back and see us slide further. The time is perfect for Bill to step away (it was 10 years ago) and I wish him and his family well and years of living in good health - not stress. Brilliant post. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC11 Posted August 10, 2015 Report Share Posted August 10, 2015 Lads heard a wisper today that bill Kenwright has had a meeting with a billionaire from America His name is Terrence pegula he owns the buffalo bills and apparently the new stadium is not a problem to them so fingers crossed something may come of it. Why do people make up this shit? "Lads heard a whisper" - completely ends any hope if this being true. Somebody gargling tripe at the match thinking he's ITK Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted August 10, 2015 Report Share Posted August 10, 2015 I must admit I have heard a couple of things - I also have a strong gut feeling that really the sale is the only thing that can improve us and it has been slowly realised. I just hope if this is true the best present Bill and co (because lets be honest - I want the lot gone, he's carried the can when I would question what the likes of earl and chums have done) can leave us - a visionary owner who knows how to transform us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lowensda Posted August 10, 2015 Report Share Posted August 10, 2015 If it's any consolation Patto, I believe you buddy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lowensda Posted August 10, 2015 Report Share Posted August 10, 2015 i don't know anything about American football I've never heard of Terry pegula why would I pull his name out the hat. I said I believe you? :dont know: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c1982 Posted August 10, 2015 Report Share Posted August 10, 2015 i don't know anything about American football I've never heard of Terry pegula why would I pull his name out the hat. It would be a pegular name to choose if you hadn't heard something! Lowensda, Quinn31 and Matt 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paddock Posted August 10, 2015 Report Share Posted August 10, 2015 Doibt Patto is desperate enough for a bit of attention to make something up full stop never mind this. He's just passing it on. It is what it is and he's only repeating what he's heard. I for one am grateful for it Patto. If nobody shared there would be no rumour section or much to talk about other than the shite we're witnessing on the pitch. Thanks for sharing Patto mate. markjazzbassist 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
efc1111 Posted August 10, 2015 Report Share Posted August 10, 2015 Given the guy's wealth, his obvious full-on interest in sport as well as the community around the clubs, plus his background in construction, I would LOVE this to be true. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted August 10, 2015 Report Share Posted August 10, 2015 spot on pad, patto thanks for sharing, gives me a bit of hope things could change for the better. the massive money in the premier league now must surely be attracting investors who see a gold mine in terms of business investments. let's hope we are able to benefit from it. MC11 and Lowensda 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC11 Posted August 10, 2015 Report Share Posted August 10, 2015 I'm sure if these whispers had been heard the media would be all over it.... Until then it's just like any other whisper.... A Chinese one Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paddock Posted August 10, 2015 Report Share Posted August 10, 2015 And he never said for a single second it was going to happen he just said he'd heard a whisper and shared it. Fucking hell MC, but the shitty stick down and stop beating people with it. The lads just passing on what he heard, you can make of it what you will but if no one shared anything we wouldn't be sitting here swapping posts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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