Matt Posted May 19, 2014 Report Share Posted May 19, 2014 I have to say I enjoyed your discussion guys. I still love McCarthy, the MC position is the base of any team, it requires lots of tactical knowledge and for me it also has an influence on the future sucess of the man as a manager (Ancelotti, Simeone, Guardiola, Martinez...even Benitez and Mourinho were midfielders!) The truth is Traoré has only had a hamstring injured with a setback (rushed too soon, perhaps?). The guy is 6'6', he may need more time to heal than others if he is explosive and physical. Does anyone know if he is a permacrocked or is just a one-off? That would be the deal-breaker for me. I can stand one bad injury period, but I wouldn't want another player permanently injured. 6'8 even http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lacina_Traor%C3%A9 career stats etc, but take it with a pinch of salt with wiki. Looks like has played 3.5 out of 7 full seasons, if Ive counted that correctly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kant Posted May 19, 2014 Report Share Posted May 19, 2014 career stats etc, but take it with a pinch of salt with wiki. Looks like has played 3.5 out of 7 full seasons, if Ive counted that correctly I can't see if when he did not play for Cluj (44 in 3 seasons) he was injured, and I can't open his transfermarkt page where theoretically they keep record of his injuries. For Anzhi (29 in one year and a half) and Kuban (38 in one year) he had a normal amount of games played. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cornish Steve Posted May 19, 2014 Report Share Posted May 19, 2014 Let's draw the analogy between Traore and McGeady. Both played in the Russian leagues. Both deals were viewed negatively and with trepidation at this forum. Both players were out of shape when then joined Everton. Both struggled in their first appearance. Given the opportunity to progress, however, McGeady is turning out to be a bit of a bargain. Why wouldn't Traore also? Matt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC11 Posted May 19, 2014 Report Share Posted May 19, 2014 Was going to start a thread on Mcgeady. For me so far a bit part player. Not someone you could rely on to put a 90minute performance. Definitely has quality but still huge ????? Over his overall contribution Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cornish Steve Posted May 19, 2014 Report Share Posted May 19, 2014 Was going to start a thread on Mcgeady. For me so far a bit part player. Not someone you could rely on to put a 90minute performance. Definitely has quality but still huge ????? Over his overall contribution But we couldn't rely on Lukaku putting in a 90-minute performance at the start of the season. It takes time to become a regular starter when you haven't been playing 90 minutes every week. Matt and Kant 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted May 19, 2014 Report Share Posted May 19, 2014 Was going to start a thread on Mcgeady. For me so far a bit part player. Not someone you could rely on to put a 90minute performance. Definitely has quality but still huge ????? Over his overall contribution He effectively ended his season in September when he was banished to train with the youth team in Russia. He then clearly put some beef on and was rusty. In any normal given circumstance you would equate that to an "end of season" effect on his body. He had basically stopped playing. You wouldn't expect players to come back in August without having been on a pre season training camp and play 90 minutes.... With a pre season behind him and his family settled I expect to see a beast of a player. His feet are electric, so quick its untrue, and he isn't shy of pace. Watch this space, this lad is gonna be great for us. Toffee_in_LA, Matt and Romey 1878 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newty82 Posted May 19, 2014 Report Share Posted May 19, 2014 Don't back down cotto...fight your corner! Throw what ever you can at them...no matter how contradicting!!! Keep going. Battle till the end...would you like a spade, I mean garden digging tool, to help with those holes?!!! It's a great read. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC11 Posted May 19, 2014 Report Share Posted May 19, 2014 Don't back down cotto...fight your corner! Throw what ever you can at them...no matter how contradicting!!! Keep going. Battle till the end...would you like a spade, I mean garden digging tool, to help with those holes?!!! It's a great read. You are not well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueBlood81 Posted May 19, 2014 Report Share Posted May 19, 2014 I'm with the Haf on this. Real darkhorse for my dreamteam next season. Fully fit with a full pre season behind him he could be a revelation next year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kant Posted May 19, 2014 Report Share Posted May 19, 2014 (edited) I'm with Cotto on McGeady so far. I'm not entirely convinced by him, I see him as a gifted player with consistency issues. Quick feet are always a valuable asset, but to me he has shown nothing more. No end product, no goals, no meaningful contribution. We'll see how he fares with a full preseason, but RM picked a poor Deulofeu to start in his place, which is not a good sign. I'll be glad to be proven wrong, of course. I can see he has all the tools, but I'm not so sure he knows how to deploy them effectively. Edited May 19, 2014 by Kant Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC11 Posted May 19, 2014 Report Share Posted May 19, 2014 Mcgeady is very talented no doubt possibly one of the most talented in the squad. But consistent end product is what's missing. He's provided some great crosses which players haven't latched onto. I think he'll come good. But not sure he'll nail a starting position. All depends on Pienaar and signings. Aidan and Bailey 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest blueboy122 Posted May 20, 2014 Report Share Posted May 20, 2014 I rate Mcgeady and think he will turn out to be a great signing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted May 20, 2014 Report Share Posted May 20, 2014 I rate Mcgeady and think he will turn out to be a great signing.me too. Just needs a chance to get back up to speed following an injury in an inferior league. Hmmm.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newty82 Posted May 20, 2014 Report Share Posted May 20, 2014 me too. Just needs a chance to get back up to speed following an injury in an inferior league. Hmmm.... Hahaha...throw that line n hook. Wait for the bites!!! Matt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC11 Posted May 20, 2014 Report Share Posted May 20, 2014 Hahaha...throw that line n hook. Wait for the bites!!! This man is not well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newty82 Posted May 20, 2014 Report Share Posted May 20, 2014 This man is well fit Excuse me? I'm a married man!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC11 Posted May 20, 2014 Report Share Posted May 20, 2014 Excuse me? I'm a married man!!! Was it a civil arrangement Newts? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msloan78 Posted May 20, 2014 Report Share Posted May 20, 2014 (edited) Read today that Monaco have parted ways with Ranieri, which you would imagine could be a decent opportunity for Traore to get some game time at Monaco with the new manager coming in. Don't think this one will be happening as a result. Edited May 20, 2014 by doc_bump Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newty82 Posted May 20, 2014 Report Share Posted May 20, 2014 Was it a civil arrangement Newts? Horror! First you insinuate that I am 'not well', now you insinuate that I am homosexual!!! How very dare you darling. Any more of it and I'll chase you around with my feather duster wearing my hot pants. Matt, Romey 1878 and MC11 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncanmckenzieismagic Posted May 21, 2014 Report Share Posted May 21, 2014 Read today that Monaco have parted ways with Ranieri, which you would imagine could be a decent opportunity for Traore to get some game time at Monaco with the new manager coming in. Don't think this one will be happening as a result. Wouldn't be too disappointed if that's the case Romey 1878 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted May 21, 2014 Report Share Posted May 21, 2014 Mcgeady is very talented no doubt possibly one of the most talented in the squad. But consistent end product is what's missing. He's provided some great crosses which players haven't latched onto. I think he'll come good. But not sure he'll nail a starting position. All depends on Pienaar and signings. Yeh I would agree with that. Shown glimpses of potential but he is very inconsistent. MC11 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aidan Posted May 21, 2014 Report Share Posted May 21, 2014 Yeh I would agree with that. Shown glimpses of potential but he is very inconsistent. He's ten times the player of deulo... and everyone raves about the spaniard. This is what annoyes me, the media sway people so easily... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC11 Posted May 21, 2014 Report Share Posted May 21, 2014 He's ten times the player of deulo... and everyone raves about the spaniard. This is what annoyes me, the media sway people so easily... I've seen both through my eyes and Mcgeady is definitely a more rounded player but...... Deulofeu is more direct and more dangerous and has years ahead of him! ohhhh Kevin Mirallas!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted May 21, 2014 Report Share Posted May 21, 2014 He's ten times the player of deulo... and everyone raves about the spaniard. This is what annoyes me, the media sway people so easily... I have seen quality from them both and I have seen shite from them both and I wouldnt really rate one above the other based on last season. The Deulo from the Christmas period was better than anything I have seen from McGeady but the end of season Deulo was worse than McGeady. Kant 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted May 22, 2014 Report Share Posted May 22, 2014 Mcgeady will be a popular name on the back of manybshirts next season, Mark my words. Genuinely excited by the lad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shukes Posted May 22, 2014 Report Share Posted May 22, 2014 I thought Mcgeady was pleasantly surprising and would also argue that at this time is a far better player than Jerry. As gar as no end product goes o would say it was more our inability to challenge for crosses than his ability to create chance. Many times I found myself gasping that no one attacked his crosses. Still would like to see Traore have a go at showing us what he is capable of. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC11 Posted May 22, 2014 Report Share Posted May 22, 2014 (edited) I thought Mcgeady was pleasantly surprising and would also argue that at this time is a far better player than Jerry. As gar as no end product goes o would say it was more our inability to challenge for crosses than his ability to create chance. Many times I found myself gasping that no one attacked his crosses. Still would like to see Traore have a go at showing us what he is capable of. Read that wrong... But. He has about 7 years on the lad and their games differ completely. If I wanted a goal I'd throw Deulofeu on before Mcgeady right now. Edited May 22, 2014 by MiguelCotto Aidan and Sibdane 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted May 23, 2014 Report Share Posted May 23, 2014 French media is reporting that Traore will be part of the Monaco side next season. Good, I'm relieved. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest blueboy122 Posted May 23, 2014 Report Share Posted May 23, 2014 French media is reporting that Traore will be part of the Monaco side next season. Good, I'm relieved. Can't say am bothered to be honest he did look awful but I was more than prepared to give him a season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest blueboy122 Posted May 23, 2014 Report Share Posted May 23, 2014 (edited) I would be picking up a few free agents at this point. Edited May 23, 2014 by blueboy122 Matt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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