Matt Posted November 24, 2016 Report Share Posted November 24, 2016 Certainly more should have been done...it's been obvious to anyone not involved with the club we needed a new striker and creative midfielder..no excuses people upping their asking price by 30% is a damn good excuse Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcopaulo Posted November 24, 2016 Report Share Posted November 24, 2016 That seemed to be last minute though Matt..if you leave it til late then clubs will try and rinse you cos they know you're desperate..should have been sorted long before the last day Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted November 24, 2016 Report Share Posted November 24, 2016 That seemed to be last minute though Matt..if you leave it til late then clubs will try and rinse you cos they know you're desperate..should have been sorted long before the last dayof course it was last minute, that's when good negotiators make their money! Unless it's been s very long fort battle; 12 months plus. You have plans and back plans and back plans and then fall back plans duncanmckenzieismagic 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rubecula Posted November 25, 2016 Report Share Posted November 25, 2016 Wonder if we can offload Koeman? Seriously, we need a lot of help just now. Defensively we are weak, midfield is suffering and up front we are too reliant on one person to score. I really can not see us sorting this out soon, no matter how much we have to spend. We need to be attractive to players to make them want to play for us, not that we can afford to turn away a decent mercenary player but it would be nice to have good quality and loyalty for a change. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sideliner Posted November 25, 2016 Report Share Posted November 25, 2016 When last have we had a more than just a stand-in nr 10 playmaker ? Get us one in January from a Spain or Brazil - the guys who know how to attack through the middle and you won't believe the change he will make in the whole team. rubecula 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevO Posted November 27, 2016 Report Share Posted November 27, 2016 Worth trying to take a punt on Mahrez or Payet? Both their teams struggling, will they want to stick it out? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
London Blue Posted November 27, 2016 Report Share Posted November 27, 2016 Worth trying to take a punt on Mahrez or Payet? Both their teams struggling, will they want to stick it out? If they go its going to be CL teams, especially Payet given his performances for France. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aidan Posted November 27, 2016 Report Share Posted November 27, 2016 Worth trying to take a punt on Mahrez or Payet? Both their teams struggling, will they want to stick it out? Hello mahrez and payet would you like to take a step sidewards? Never happening why would they come to us? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted November 27, 2016 Report Share Posted November 27, 2016 Hello mahrez and payet would you like to take a step sidewards? Never happening why would they come to us? Because of the project that Moshiri is putting together? If it happens we'll be a much better prospect than West Ham or Leicester will ever be; though the way we look at the moment you'd have to be a damn good salesman to get them to buy into it admittedly. Romey 1878 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
London Blue Posted November 27, 2016 Report Share Posted November 27, 2016 Because of the project that Moshiri is putting together? If it happens we'll be a much better prospect than West Ham or Leicester will ever be; though the way we look at the moment you'd have to be a damn good salesman to get them to buy into it admittedly. Agree, but if a Spurs, Arsenal or Chelsea come calling they will join them as they already have champions league games Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Btay Posted November 28, 2016 Report Share Posted November 28, 2016 Wow we have some work in the next window. GK LB CM LW CAM ST Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted November 28, 2016 Report Share Posted November 28, 2016 Because of the project that Moshiri is putting together? If it happens we'll be a much better prospect than West Ham or Leicester will ever be; though the way we look at the moment you'd have to be a damn good salesman to get them to buy into it admittedly. To be fair West Ham have a similar project ongoing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted November 28, 2016 Report Share Posted November 28, 2016 To be fair West Ham have a similar project ongoing. They have a pair of pornographers in charge, Sullivan and Gold; if Moshiri is as low as those two I want no part of it. Plus financially they're not on the same planet, lucked in to a stadium that isn't suitable for purpose so I still think they'll crash and burn and go back to being the yo-yo club they've been for years. Matt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted November 28, 2016 Report Share Posted November 28, 2016 I hope they do too but there is potential there for them to become a bigger club than they are at the minute and at least their project is actually underway! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shukes Posted November 29, 2016 Report Share Posted November 29, 2016 Got a feeling we will sign two defensive midfielders! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Btay Posted November 29, 2016 Report Share Posted November 29, 2016 And from that list we will get a central defender and another right winger. Both African, both who will go missing in January for a few weeks. You know it. I don't even think with out influx of money we can afford what we need ( want ) this window! For me, Rodriguez Wolfsburg ( lb ) Van Dijke ( CB ) Dries Merterns ( 10 ) And then the rest.... fantasy football isn't it Sibdane 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shy_Talk Posted November 30, 2016 Report Share Posted November 30, 2016 In the famous words of Marvin Gaye, 'lets get it on'... Robles Stekelenburg Not really Robles fault, brought in by clown-shoes to be another familiar face in the dressing room auto buying into the (#shudder) philosophy, makes Richard Wright look like Gordon Banks. Needs to go to help air out the stench of bullshit and mediocrity clown-shoes infested our club with. Promote a youth to be backup GK, Steks not getting injured as he isnt putting his life on the line to punch someones head off when its required.... Baines Williams Jagielka Coleman Mori It's a shame for Mori as no one wants a Lescott type left footer CB to turn up more than me but sadly Mori aint the cavalier rampaging headed goal machine Lescott was. Move him on for as much as possible, save the wages and push the likes of Browning, Galloway and Holgate into the supporting roles, we can all see Jagielka is nearing the finish of his respective race but he isnt done yet in light of bad team picks, no game plan and a dearth of options in the squad to win headers in the oppositions half. Remember Alcaraz? Dear baby Jesus spare us all. clown-shoes, what an utter k*nt. McGeady Niasse Gibson Besic We get nothing but evaporated wages from these four, BIN! Cleverly Wanted it to work because he can play football, has taken the Osman mantle well, its his fault even when hes not playing, little stench of the clown-shoes mafia. Gueye Bolassie Barkley Oviedo Lennon Gueye has been a good acquisition even if he is a bit of a short arse, Bolassie is our major chance maker (somehow) Barkley will come good when he is let off from being expected to be heir apparent to the former captain and permanent shit stain from over the park. We've youth players on the books, lets sack off the players we get nothing from and let our young lads earn a crust sat on the bench and learning from being involved from there. McCarthy Even though hes clown-shoes mafia hes well worth keeping because Barry is near done and along with Gueye will accrue yellows and bans so legs required and the running part is pretty much all his game is. Valencia Kone Mirallas Deulofeu Lukaku Dueler gets a pass by the skin of his teeth, I'm getting Barmby vibes from Lukaku (paranoia probably) Mira hasnt been right since that penalty, Kone is clown-shoes mafia and Valencia isn't good enough for a side that flogged Jelavic on the cheap. 99.9% of the responsibility for this shit-show lies at the clown shoed feet of our former joker of a manager, the one that took near £11million compensation out of our club after throwing £13 million big ones to god knows who in the Ukraine league/criminal underword/political party/toilet on a player he couldnt be arsed trying to get playing. Thats 10 strikes, get them off the books, no point replacing them as you cant replace a wet fart, its a non entity, we get nothing from them so they may as well not be at our club. Save the wages, fuck the agents off, and lets give the new head scout super duper talent spotter his shot in full in the summer. Koeman has proven he likes his usual starting eleven and isn't for changing, so prop it up with the youth we have and limp our way to summer. Hate Martinez (clown-shoes), hate his face, his legacy and the supporters that continue to champion him. Nice smiley chap though, I'd be smiling having screwed so much money out of a business I never gave a toss about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Posted November 30, 2016 Report Share Posted November 30, 2016 Great post that shy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shy_Talk Posted November 30, 2016 Report Share Posted November 30, 2016 I think Moshiri needs a robust transfer policy. I don't want to see us signing players who are 30 or will be 30 some time in the duration of their first contract. You can get a "seasoned" pro on free transfers if you need to plug a gap. We should be looking to sign younger players around 23-27 who are regulars for their respective teams and fast becoming that team's best player. Hell it's working for RB Leipzig haha Haven't the knives been out for Koeman and Bolassie since he (YB) signed? There were murmors Gueye wasnt right as he'd been relegated (where was this caution with smug-shoes?) We might have to get used to the idea that fantastic cheap players rescued from beligerent managers frozen out elsewhere and great youth prospects are a thing of the past for us as the man who oversaw us make great achievements in those areas is now managing Sunderland. What his best side could have done with Gueye and Lukaku. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shy_Talk Posted November 30, 2016 Report Share Posted November 30, 2016 Neither Koeman nor Bolasie are the problem. There is a malaise at Everton, a culture of just going through the motions. It took Moyes years to get to grips with it. I honestly believe the players have an attitude of "you get what you pay for". They aren't earning as much as the big teams pay so they won't put those performances in. Martinez spent his time putting pictures of Everton greats all over the place. I would suggest Koeman puts photos of Jack Rodwell and Francis Jeffers up to remind the players of how dispensable they really are. They aren't special little snowflakes, they aren't good enough to get into the big sides and they don't deserve astronomical wages. They need to knuckle down, qualify for the Champions League and then come back asking for a pay rise. Are you kidding? He can't be arsed remembering players he was working with 6 months ago, and if the manager can't be arsed what example is he setting. I agree about the malaise though, but I lay that responsibility squarely with an ever growing section of the support, the support that couldnt see the back of Moyes and stab him in the back for good measure quick enough. We were drab, dire, dour and worth diddly when he took over, stuck in the doldrums and dreaming of dreams distant passed. Constant relegation battles.. No good deed goes unpunished and Moyes worked miracles, but the seismic changes made grew small because of familiarity and when he wasnt having us achieve top 4/5 finishes suddenly he wasnt good enough. Our support took him and his dedication for granted, now we are stuck looking around for the next hidden gem to be unearthed that improves us and then is moved on for big money. 'But but but' they say, 'he left for man utd' yeah he did, and cost us nothing for the privilege and left us with Stones as his last signing. clown-shoes needed paying off to the tune of near 11million pounds and signed 13 million pound Niasse and left us stuck with him. Some of our support I cannot fathom, I dont blame people for being stupid, but I do blame stupid people for being loud.(wankers!) I'm unsure Koeman knows what this job is about, saints have been a regular selling club for years and are used to that turnover and making dowith the pieces of the solution available, promote the youth and tread water as well as possible. Thats not the case here at Everton, we arent a sell the silver every summer club, weve won titles and done business in europe, weve had the best players and led the way with what was once the best stadium. Making do wont fit here, Moyes was forced to because of the shit-tip he took over, granted clown-shoes has ruined a lot of that stability but this isnt the club Smith or Walker left, the playing staff are not so bankrupt of talent by comparrison. Guns to gun fights, knives to knife fights, words to arguements and players on the pitch battling for the three points. The I'm not arsed, I can't see a problem, some players aren't performing attitude from our current manager is as bad as the dick head we've just binned, because all he saw was positivity and phenomenalness. I'm not accusing Koeman of being purposefully blind to the glaring obvious flaws in the side like the dick head he replaced. Yet. If we could get a Martyn in, a Lescott, a Cahill and gone all out in the summer for Mario Gomez we'd be sitting better off than we are. It's beyond fantasy but Gomez was gettable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plaidharper Posted December 1, 2016 Report Share Posted December 1, 2016 I think Moshiri needs a robust transfer policy. I don't want to see us signing players who are 30 or will be 30 some time in the duration of their first contract. You can get a "seasoned" pro on free transfers if you need to plug a gap. We should be looking to sign younger players around 23-27 who are regulars for their respective teams and fast becoming that team's best player. Hell it's working for RB Leipzig haha Indeed. They are top of the league and their record transfer fee is like what 10 mil tops? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SimonButtle Posted December 5, 2016 Report Share Posted December 5, 2016 Indeed. They are top of the league and their record transfer fee is like what 10 mil tops? With an average age of 23! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plaidharper Posted December 6, 2016 Report Share Posted December 6, 2016 With an average age of 23! Wow. That's insane. Certainly a model to take notes from. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlbanyNYToffee Posted February 6, 2017 Report Share Posted February 6, 2017 GK: Robles Stek RB: Coleman Holgate CB: Williams Mori Jags Holgate Pennington LB: Baines Garbutt CM: Schneiderlin Gueye McCarthy Besic Davies Barry AM: Barkley Mirallas Lennon Lookman Bolasie Dowell ST: Lukaku Valencia(L) Kone DCL Returning from loan? Deulofeu Cleverley Niasse Browning Galloway Grant McGeady Tarashaj Side note I can't stop thinking about: Stones: 47.5 million Gueye Schneiderlin Lookman AND Williams: 46.6 million Matt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted February 6, 2017 Report Share Posted February 6, 2017 Side note I can't stop thinking about: Stones: 47.5 million Gueye Schneiderlin Lookman AND Williams: 46.6 million Great observation that. Matt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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