Ronald Koeman

[Lowensda]

I read something yesterday that Moshiri has a shortlist and asked Kenwright to invite one option. Moyes was his option.

 

By all accounts, I think Moshiri is the decision maker.

[Romey 1878]

I read something yesterday that Moshiri has a shortlist and asked Kenwright to invite one option. Moyes was his option.

 

By all accounts, I think Moshiri is the decision maker.

 

I look forward to the day Kenwright has zero say on how the club is run. If it's true then it shows the man has no imagination or ambition.

[Paddock]

I'll be furious if it's Moyes.

[rubecula]

I read something yesterday that Moshiri has a shortlist and asked Kenwright to invite one option. Moyes was his option.

 

By all accounts, I think Moshiri is the decision maker.

I do not believe that such a talk would have been public so we would not hear of it. If they discussed out in the open where other folk we actually listening then they are all worse than anyone would give them credit for.

[MC11]

Pellegrini down 2-1. De Boer up to 6-1

[duncanmckenzieismagic]

http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/everton-manager-candidate-unai-emery-11377657

 

 

[Hafnia]

Even if Moyes behaved the right way when he went to the Mancs I would say "fuck right off".

 

As it happens he spent 10 years here telling fans we couldn't break the ceiling, pen knives to gun fights, top 10 is a great result for a club like Everton.

 

Then when he did go he showed absolutely no class in taking pot shots at our stature whilst trying to nab baines and fellaini. Now... what manager goes to the champions and brings in a midfielder who typified his "all guts, no style" philosophy? Is he to be trusted in taking us forward??? He proved time and time again that when given money for big players he blew it. He couldn't handle big players. Big players didn't respect him.

 

Villa was the perfect job for him. The fact that we have been officially linked with him in discussions is a piss take to the fans. Outraged.

Edited May 24, 2016 by Hafnia

[Lowensda]

Remaining candidates.

 

Favre - Jobless

De Boer - Jobless

Pellegrini - Jobless

Moyes - Jobless

Emery - Rules himself out. Happy at Sevilla (not surprised).

Mourinho - Joined United (again, not surprised).

Koeman - Rules himself out. Happy at Southampton.

Edited May 24, 2016 by Lowensda

[MC11]

I honestly don't want Pellegrini - likely

[Chach]

I think I'm leaning toward Pellegrini, will probably turn out we haven't spoken to anyone mentioned and appoint Gary Neville.

[Newty82]

I fancied u to be the type of fella who shops in Waitrose Newty.

Hahaha. Nowhere near!!!

[EFC-Paul]

I look forward to the day Kenwright has zero say on how the club is run. If it's true then it shows the man has no imagination or ambition.

This

[Newty82]

Moyes is the only one I'd be pissed off at.

 

Wouldn't mind either De Boer or Pellegrini. Although after reading up on De Boer, Pellegrini edges it for me. But I wouldn't spit my dummy over De Boer.

 

That of course is out of the so called available candidates.

 

It's gonna be Unsworth and Royle, isn't it?!!!

[Lowensda]

This is a good piece - https://spiritoftheblues.wordpress.com/2016/05/24/furious-fives-the-contenders/

 

I will split each candidate up into their own post below.

[Lowensda]

Unai Emery

 

 

“Can I just stop you there, Bill? Goody gumdrops, now fuck off.”

 

Well-respected forty four year old Spaniard currently in charge of Sevilla. Probably best-known for a great spell at Valencia, leading Valencia to three consecutive third place finishes behind the power of Real Madrid and that Barcelona team all the while building a new team each year as some of the worst debts in football crippled Los Murciélagos (Love a foreign nickname, me, especially when it translates as ‘The Bats’) and players of the quality of Juan Mata, David Silva and David Villa were sold out from underneath him. Has also had great recent success at Sevilla, winning the Europa League three years on the spin and actually beating Liverpool in a European Final. From a goal down. This fact alone would probably mean Emery’s welcome would be a hero’s one.

 

The Good.

 

Has always worked within a budget at big clubs where the success comes as books are balanced. Tends to be able to bring a resilient mentality to his sides and knows how to grind out a win when required, something which has been severely lacking at L4 in recent years. Has more European trophies than Everton do.

 

The Bad.

 

Emery’s lone managerial experience outside of Spain came with Spartak Moscow. He lasted three months, sacked after getting walloped 5-1 at home in a derby against Dynamo. Just the thought of taking that kind of hiding at Goodison to them has me sat in a catatonic state for a good three minutes until the wife asked me why I’m staring at the table. He’s also had experience of managing our own magic Spanish winger Gerard Deulofeu with whom he did not quite see eye to eye. Emery accused the young Spaniard of lacking maturity and the self-sacrifice needed to help his team and reach the very top level which hints at a team over stars approach at all times. In defence of Deulofeu, he does seem changed since making a permanant transfer away from Barcelona, and Emery may now find a different tricky forward, ready to become the player we hope he can be. …After the buyback clause expires.

 

The Style.

 

A pressure-filled 4-2-3-1, usually. Not running round like blue arsed flies til the hamstrings snap (or an Argentinian defender breaks your shit like it’s 1950) like them over there, but certainly an onus on numbers in the midfield and a quick break to follow. In spite of this style, Sevilla did not win a single game away from home last season, which has to be a black mark of sorts, even if it was only a quirk as the previous two seasons were more in line with what you’d expect. Tends to play with a deep lying attacking midfielder in Ever Banega rather than the high position Martinez played Ross Barkley in, which would be an interesting transition for ‘The Wavertree Chin’.

Edited May 24, 2016 by Lowensda

[Lowensda]

Frank De Boer

 

 

“Oumar! Oumar! What the fuck is that hair sayin’, lad?!”

 

Forty six year old outgoing Ajax boss and former great player hoping to become a great manager at either the Blues or Valencia, apparently. Has spent the last six years in charge of Ajax, winning the league title four times out of six. Similar to Emery in that he has had to build teams whilst losing his better players at a selling club like Ajax, but the Eredivisie is nowhere near as competitive as the Spanish League, of course. Has had both his agent and also-ace-former-player twin brother Ronald speak about his eagerness to join the Blues from the moment Farhad’s foot left Roberto’s arse.

 

The Good.

 

A notable young coach, with league title winning experience. Tremendous profile from an incredible playing career. For anyone uncertain of the kind of quality I’m talking about, he’s the man who dropped a seventy yard pass onto Dennis Bergkamp’s foot to score one of the greatest goals I’ve ever seen in any competition against Argentina. De Boer is also a noted disciplinarian, which would certainly be a welcome change from the powder-puff approach of Martinez, at least to those on the stands. A few of our players look like they’d cry under a bollocking on the other hand, so might not be met particularly well among the squad.

Perhaps through constraints, De Boer also has a fabulous record blooding youth into the first team, but I suppose that’s quite easy when they have the technical ability associated with the Ajax academy.

 

The Bad.

 

Completely unknown quantity outside of the relative weakness of the Eredivisie. Sometimes they’re a Van Nistelrooy, sometimes they’re a Kezman. Won four titles in his first four years, but this year’s team dropped an almighty bollock by failing to beat the already relegated De Graafschaap on the final day, allowing Phillip Cocu’s (Why isn’t he being linked?) PSV to steal in and win the league by two points. Criticism of a robotic playing style and an inability to adapt abounds.

I also can’t shake the idea that if he were worth taking a chance on, Liverpool or Tottenham would have by now, before sacking him and letting him go and manage in Russia or somewhere similar.

 

The Style.

 

Has been described in the past week as a Dutch version of Martinez, which should rule him out immediately, really. But to take a closer look at it, De Boer does favour keeping the ball in most situations, often to the detriment of the tempo of his side while defensive solidity comes as standard, which is great and something I’ve really missed. The main attacking outlet comes from a pair of wide, tricky wingers at the top of a 4-3-3 that are urged to take on their full backs and get the ball in to a lone striker.

Edited May 24, 2016 by Lowensda

[Lowensda]

Manuel Pellegrini

 

 

“As a nod of respect to the history of this great club, I tried to do my hair like Abel Xavier.”

 

Sixty-two year old Chilean and outgoing Manchester City manager with the long-time footballing guru nickname of ‘The Engineer’. Most people think this is down to some minds-eye genius tactician’s brain that allows him to create football teams out of old washing up liquid bottles and sticky back plastic, (What is sticky back plastic? Is it wool sellotape?) turns out he’s just a qualified civil engineer. Best known here for his time at Manchester City where he became one of only eight men to have won the Premier League title (Stats, eh?). Also has had spells in charge of Real Madrid, Malaga and a certain Villarreal side that knocked Everton out of the Champion’s League qualifiers some ten years ago.

 

The Good.

 

Pellegrini’s most notable side is that Villarreal team driven forward by Argentinian master, Juan Roman Riquelme. Perhaps fortunate to go through over two legs in our Champion’s League qualifier (Let’s not start that again… BASTARD!) nevertheless, that Villarreal side showed us what was going to be required, and that with the likes of Kevin Kilbane, Marcus Bent and Simon Davies, we were a million miles off it.

 

Pellegrini has an excellent track record with clubs just below the superpowers, the kind of level that Everton probably sit at, waiting to be taken forward, and with knowledge of how to win the Premier League against a violent, Luis Suarez driven Liverpool, brings a level of competence that no other candidate can match.

 

Would probably be open to a three year period at the club, leaving room for a truly brilliant manager to build on his work when they’re available as they don’t quite seem to be right now.

 

The Bad.

 

Not winning the league this season is a real black mark on Pellegrini’s record. After starting so impressively, City dropped away fairly terribly, failing to record a single win against the rest of the top eight all year. They were a bit of a circus this year, though, and to put their problems down to a manager who has no control over transfers is a bit harsh. If you have a sixty two year old Yaya Toure as your best option, one competent centre half made of straw and a flat track bully for a centre forward (Yeah, I said it!) and these are your best players, then what are you really meant to do?

 

 

Would probably try to bring Jesus Navas with him. This is enough to discount him completely in my opinion.

 

The Style.

 

 

Adaptable. No two Pellegrini teams are the same, and he does live up to his nickname in this respect, as he finds a way to make the best team he can with the players he’s given. So while I could write about his other teams, it’s not likely we’d see anything like it if he were given the job.

Edited May 24, 2016 by Lowensda

[Lowensda]

Ronald Koeman

 

 

“Why do they keep asking me if I’m gonna beat Hillary to the Presidency? Fucking oddbods.”

 

Fifty three year old incumbent Southampton manager and another brilliant Dutch defender in his day, trying to make his way as a brilliant Dutch manager. Ronald Koeman’s Southampton job has been extremely impressive, in spite of Liverpool buying their better players every summer, has managed to keep them around the position that David Moyes kept us in.

 

The Good.

 

Certainly has an eye for a player, and each time Southampton sell, the replacement appears better than the ones who left. Out goes Lovren, in comes Van Dijk, out goes Lallana, in comes Dusan Tadic, out goes Lambert, in comes Graziano Pelle. The recruitment is absolutely fantastic and the ability to get the players up to speed even moreso. Koeman appeared in the early running to be Everton’s preferred target, and it’s easy to see why.

 

The Bad.

 

I’ve read stories of Koeman’s ‘abrasive’ managerial style. Which is one of those phrases the papers use that let you read whatever you like into it. Difficult to find any negatives during Koeman’s time in England, he has a few failures on his record but then, don’t we all?

 

Doesn’t tend to stay in one place for very long, has had eight jobs in sixteen seasons of management, so giving him the funds to build a team in his image before he fucks off somewhere else seems like a risk.

 

He also used Everton’s interest to further his own position at Southampton. I’m not a big fan of that tactic, even though I understand why he would do it. While I’m at it, Southampton probably have a better squad than we do right now, and if he chose to turn down Everton for them, it would probably be quite a blow to our profile.

 

Might try to swap Oumar Niassé for Shane Long. Nobody puts Oumar in the corner.

 

The Style.

 

 

Even though he’s been in this country for two years, it’s hard to put a style on Koeman’s Southampton. Obviously favours a classic target man in Graziano Pelle, allowing some tricky players and Shane Long to play off and around him. In many ways, Koeman’s Southampton are quite a nice hybrid of classic British rough and tumble, with continental shape and possession. Would probably be the most ‘Everton’ in style of the four real contenders to the job.

Edited May 24, 2016 by Lowensda

[Lowensda]

David Moyes

 

 

“I didn’t even get the joke, I just like to laugh along sometimes.”

 

We all know the unattached fifty three year old Scot whose Alex Ferguson impression went piss-poor at Man United and subsequently not much better at Sociedad in Spain. Is looking for a boost to his ailing profile, and nobody higher placed than us would be willing to take him. (and he knows it)

 

The Good.

 

Knows the club. Understands implicitly the grubbier, hard-working side of the game that is intrinsic to the nature of Everton and all who sail with her. Is said to be still favoured by Bill Kenwright, in spite of the evidence of the last three years. Is so defensively solid that the effects were felt long after he left and had been sacked by United.

 

The Bad.

 

Where do you start, and how do you keep this from being a hatchet job on the man? Others have said it far more eloquently and harshly than I want to, so I will leave it with, in my opinion, David Moyes is absolutely not the man to take Everton forward at this time. I will always be grateful for the job he did in reviving this club and giving us back a modicum of pride and respect in the absolute shower of a club we were, but he stagnated and his time and methods have passed.

 

They always say you should never go back.

 

Also has poor handling of the more ‘maverick’ player, and would also probably send everyone in the squad under the age of twenty-nine out on loan. With the incredibly promising clutch of youngsters we have, would be an absolute killer to the efforts of our Academy players and staff.

 

The Style.

 

Defensive and direct. I honestly preferred it to Martinez’ tap-tap-concede style, but that doesn’t mean I want it back. Very rarely adapted to situations apart from putting bigger, more physical players in when it was warranted. When he feels outgunned, Moyes tries to snatch the early goal and sit with eleven behind the ball for the remaining eighty five minutes.

 

 

This never works.

[markjazzbassist]

I wouldn't be surprised with Usmanov comes in. Moshiri bought 49.1 percent, Usmanov will buy the 50.9 and together they will run the club.

[MC11]

Again all one mans opinion.

[Makis]

They win't be able to buy all the shares as a lot of them are ownef by minority shareholders. Plenty only own one.

[duncanmckenzieismagic]

http://www.insidefutbol.com/2016/05/24/no-lucien-favre-for-everton-coach-heads-for-nice/287366/

[Lowensda]

For cock sake.

[EFC-Paul]

For cock sake.

I don't actually believe he was ever on our radar tbh it's just the usual 2+2=5 media nonsense plus if we were in for him bar the Europa he'd be mad to turn us down (prem football good squad decent transfer kitty) for a fairly shite league etc

 

I've got a feeling it's a two horse race between De Boer and favourably Pellegrini

[duncanmckenzieismagic]

Twitters response to Moyes odds shortening!

 

https://twitter.com/trendsliverpool/status/735140329490423808

 

 

[JoeQuince]

Twitters response to Moyes odds shortening!

 

https://twitter.com/trendsliverpool/status/735140329490423808

 

 

 

Yeah, there was really only one way a majority of fans were going to take this news haha

[Peter H]

Can you please refrain from talking bollocks? Whilst Emery is a good candidate he's won 3 Europa League titles and nothing else (so we can say he's a cup specialist - for now). I like him but I prefer De Boer. That's my opinion right now. De Boer won four league titles on the spin. That's enough for me. 4 in a row proves he's no bluffer. De Boer is also a bigger name than Emery. He could attract better player IMO and bring in top back room staff.

He won those titles with Ajax. I could win a title with Ajax

[Paddock]

Ronald De Boer has confirmed we have NOT spoken to Frank.

Mi think it's going to be Pelligrini you know, the more I think about it the more it all falls in to place, he apparently cancelled his summer holiday in his villa abroad to sight see around the UK.

 

It's going to be Pelligrini I've just gone to lump £20 on him but he's now 2/1 ??

[MikeO]

It's going to be Pelligrini I've just gone to lump £20 on him but he's now 2/1

 

Think you're probably right; I'd have liked someone younger to build long term personally but I'll back whoever it is. Maybe he can put us in a position to bring in one of the other guys talked about in this thread to push us on further in two or three years time.