MikeO Posted June 23, 2016 Report Share Posted June 23, 2016 MikeO, I once read that there are more 'suns/stars' in the universe than there are grains of sand on the whole of the earth. I find this difficult to believe as you should see the number of grains of sand in the block paving on my drive for a start! I've heard that one too; it's astonishing. If you start trying to imagine the size of the universe and the colossal speed at which it's expanding your head will explode. And then there's the question, "What's it expanding into?" The mind boggles. Matt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted June 23, 2016 Report Share Posted June 23, 2016 I've heard that one too; it's astonishing. If you start trying to imagine the size of the universe and the colossal speed at which it's expanding your head will explode. And then there's the question, "What's it expanding into?" The mind boggles. Even though I don't understand half of it I'm fascinated by space and the universe etc. Love watching the programmes on the BBC like Wonders of the Solar System. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cornish Steve Posted June 23, 2016 Report Share Posted June 23, 2016 80 minutes to the first BBC prediction. History in the making. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted June 23, 2016 Report Share Posted June 23, 2016 80 minutes to the first BBC prediction. History in the making. Not sure they'll be making immediate predictions due to the lack of exit polls, might not be until they get the first few results in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted June 23, 2016 Report Share Posted June 23, 2016 Even though I don't understand half of it I'm fascinated by space and the universe etc. Love watching the programmes on the BBC like Wonders of the Solar System. I detested Brian Cox at first, but came to really appreciate him. Very funny guy and a Remain voter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted June 23, 2016 Report Share Posted June 23, 2016 80 minutes to the first BBC prediction. History in the making. And I'm seriously anxious that my faith in the quote from Gandhi is about to be seriously tested Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted June 23, 2016 Report Share Posted June 23, 2016 And I'm seriously anxious that my faith in the quote from Gandhi is about to be seriously tested I'm dirt because I voted leave in your eyes then? Very tolerantof other people's views, Matt, I'm sure Ghandi would be proud! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cornish Steve Posted June 23, 2016 Report Share Posted June 23, 2016 I'm dirt because I voted leave in your eyes then? Very tolerantof other people's views, Matt, I'm sure Ghandi would be proud! I get his point: Just because UKIP and their rowdy supporters support Leave, that doesn't mean a majority of Leave voters are like them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted June 23, 2016 Report Share Posted June 23, 2016 (edited) I'm dirt because I voted leave in your eyes then? Very tolerantof other people's views, Matt, I'm sure Ghandi would be proud! I get his point: Just because UKIP and their rowdy supporters support Leave, that doesn't mean a majority of Leave voters are like them. Steves answered it for me. edit: and from what Ten told me, you are a very dirty boy Edited June 23, 2016 by Matt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete0 Posted June 23, 2016 Report Share Posted June 23, 2016 I'm dirt because I voted leave in your eyes then? Very tolerantof other people's views, Matt, I'm sure Ghandi would be proud! Tolerance has to have a line. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EFC-Paul Posted June 23, 2016 Report Share Posted June 23, 2016 Even though I don't understand half of it I'm fascinated by space and the universe etc. Love watching the programmes on the BBC like Wonders of the Solar System. Me too, cheers Mike you've got my mind going now at this time!! ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete0 Posted June 23, 2016 Report Share Posted June 23, 2016 My brother and cousins all voted Out, which is now ahead 21-3. I thought you would support the EU, didn't you put something about them acknowledging Cornish as a minority whereas Britain wouldn't? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted June 23, 2016 Report Share Posted June 23, 2016 I get his point: Just because UKIP and their rowdy supporters support Leave, that doesn't mean a majority of Leave voters are like them. Simply; not all leave supporters are racist bigots. but all racist bigots are leave supporters. Many in here who've voted leave I like a lot and that's not going to change; I say again it's been great to have an almost exclusively civilised discussion on it, we've put the politicians to shame. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cornish Steve Posted June 23, 2016 Report Share Posted June 23, 2016 I thought you would support the EU, didn't you put something about them acknowledging Cornish as a minority whereas Britain wouldn't? I mentioned before that I was completely on the fence - with reservations either way. In the end, I support Leave purely as a negotiation tactic to win real concessions with the longer term goal of remaining in. If we don't do that, the EU will play scolding parent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
holystove Posted June 23, 2016 Report Share Posted June 23, 2016 I'm simply relaying the sentiments I hear from family and friends. It doesn't mean it's logical, but it's how we feel. Europe, when I was growing up, was something "over there", and we were not part of it. Britain entered a Common Market, with emphasis on Market. Several years later, Britons, a little reluctantly, voted to remain in Europe despite significant misgivings. We joined this club because of trade, and that was it. We didn't join to become part of this charter or that regulation, this policy or that restriction, or to see our political destiny joined at the hip with Europe. Unlike countries on the continent, in my opinion, we still do not feel we're really a part of Europe and don't want a closer political union. Blame it on history, culture, isolationism, pride, misinformation, arrogance, whatever you want, but that's the way it is. Frankly, I don't think Europeans get this. Clearly, you don't. Steve, I do get it and it's why I've stated from the beginning that I hope Leave wins. I also genuinely respect people who vote Leave because they have zero affinity with the European project (with the premise that they are informed of course). By the way, even among continentals I am in the big minority with my conviction that it would be in every European citizen's best interest for there to be a "united states" of Europe. My reply to your post wasn't about all of that. I replied to your statement that 1/ bureaucrats decide policy 2/ that it would ever be feasible for Russia to get a better trade deal than the UK. That just shows such a level of "misunderstanding" (stronger terms may apply) that it pains me that such convictions are held by your family and friends. Anyway, go Blues.. Cornish Steve 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete0 Posted June 23, 2016 Report Share Posted June 23, 2016 I mentioned before that I was completely on the fence - with reservations either way. In the end, I support Leave purely as a negotiation tactic to win real concessions with the longer term goal of remaining in. If we don't do that, the EU will play scolding parent. So vote out, to theem vote back in. It seems a little wrong, as a union no one should get special treatment otherwise it won't work. holystove 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted June 23, 2016 Report Share Posted June 23, 2016 Duncan Smith, patronising shit, "voting in council estates is high", so those in social housing are somehow different from the rest of us? Farage has apparently said that he thinks remain have won it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted June 23, 2016 Report Share Posted June 23, 2016 Duncan Smith, patronising shit, "voting in council estates is high", so those in social housing are somehow different from the rest of us? Farage has apparently said that he thinks remain have won it. That's been my feeling all along. Be interesting to see how close it was/is though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lowensda Posted June 23, 2016 Report Share Posted June 23, 2016 This does make me laugh. https://youtu.be/QTf3rwMfzSc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted June 23, 2016 Report Share Posted June 23, 2016 Hmmm, turning a bit. Newcastle vote far closer than predicted. Squeeky bum time for remain. This is going to be close, love election night programmes, I'll probably be up for hours. Luckily I have no reason to get up early in the morning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevO Posted June 23, 2016 Report Share Posted June 23, 2016 Really squeaky now Mike. Leave will go ahead as the smaller population results come in, then remain wins when the south and London in particular catch up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted June 23, 2016 Report Share Posted June 23, 2016 Really squeaky now Mike. Leave will go ahead as the smaller population results come in, then remain wins when the south and London in particular catch up. Remain was 1/12 earlier today, now 1/2. Scary (from my perspective). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted June 23, 2016 Report Share Posted June 23, 2016 Fuuuuuuuuuuck! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lowensda Posted June 23, 2016 Report Share Posted June 23, 2016 Sampling suggesting strong leave numbers. This isn't looking good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted June 23, 2016 Report Share Posted June 23, 2016 please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lowensda Posted June 23, 2016 Report Share Posted June 23, 2016 (edited) The likes of Birmingham and Liverpool will be pro remain, big numbers there. I wouldn't be too worried. Edited June 23, 2016 by Lowensda Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted June 24, 2016 Report Share Posted June 24, 2016 The likes of Birmingham and Liverpool will be pro remain, big numbers there. I wouldn't be too worried. I am worried. Only one good thing can come of this; a genuine (hopefully relatively peaceful) revolution. But, the way the Torys have dealt it, its going to be civil war Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted June 24, 2016 Report Share Posted June 24, 2016 I am worried. As am I. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted June 24, 2016 Report Share Posted June 24, 2016 As am I. I might actually hand in my passport and apply for American citizenship if this goes through, if I can. Only long enough to get my Swiss one of course No... Can't bring myself to that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted June 24, 2016 Report Share Posted June 24, 2016 3% reporting I'm seeing 54% leave 45% remain. What is a good site to watch real time that is semi unbiased? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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