Palfy Posted December 28, 2018 Report Share Posted December 28, 2018 38 minutes ago, nyblue23 said: That still has the implication of saying we were just as well off. Didn’t miss = easy to win without. In your imagination maybe not in mine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncanmckenzieismagic Posted December 28, 2018 Author Report Share Posted December 28, 2018 http://sportwitness.co.uk/club-initiate-contact-everton-e40m-midfielder-official-offer-expected-next-days/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shukes Posted December 28, 2018 Report Share Posted December 28, 2018 As far as predictions go.... PeteO and Palfy should predict us not to finish top four. Well have a chance then Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palfy Posted December 28, 2018 Report Share Posted December 28, 2018 11 minutes ago, Shukes said: As far as predictions go.... PeteO and Palfy should predict us not to finish top four. Well have a chance then Mate all good things come to end sooner or later, if me predicting not to finish in the top 4 gets us there I'd be doing a jig Shukes 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncanmckenzieismagic Posted January 7, 2019 Author Report Share Posted January 7, 2019 https://royalbluemersey.sbnation.com/2019/1/7/18171886/psg-transfer-rumors-idrissa-gana-gueye-everton-financial-fair-play-marcel-brands-thomas-tuchel markjazzbassist and Matt 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sibdane Posted January 7, 2019 Report Share Posted January 7, 2019 9 minutes ago, duncanmckenzieismagic said: https://royalbluemersey.sbnation.com/2019/1/7/18171886/psg-transfer-rumors-idrissa-gana-gueye-everton-financial-fair-play-marcel-brands-thomas-tuchel Good. He shouldn't be going anywhere until we have a replacement. Matt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post MikeO Posted January 7, 2019 Popular Post Report Share Posted January 7, 2019 46 minutes ago, duncanmckenzieismagic said: https://royalbluemersey.sbnation.com/2019/1/7/18171886/psg-transfer-rumors-idrissa-gana-gueye-everton-financial-fair-play-marcel-brands-thomas-tuchel Interesting... "Since the beginning of last (2017-18) season, Everton have played without Gana on 20 occasions. They’ve won just five of those games, with the wins coming against luminaries Rotherham, Sunderland, Lincoln City, Apollon Limassol, and Brighton. The Blues’ overall record when Gueye doesn’t play in the last two years is 5 wins, 11 losses, and 4 draws. If it wasn’t clear before, the numbers don’t lie - Idrissa Gueye makes Everton tick." Sibdane, Romey 1878, StevO and 4 others 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Shukes Posted January 7, 2019 Popular Post Report Share Posted January 7, 2019 So we have only won 5 times when he doesn’t play in two years? And those were against lower league teams.... and Brighton. Cant be right can it? Isn’t he detrimental to the team. And haven’t we played our best football when he's not on the pitch. Matt, MikeO, Hafnia and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted January 7, 2019 Report Share Posted January 7, 2019 love brands. sure you can have gana, at 45m euros. pay over the odds or fuck off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted January 7, 2019 Report Share Posted January 7, 2019 7 minutes ago, MikeO said: Interesting... "Since the beginning of last (2017-18) season, Everton have played without Gana on 20 occasions. They’ve won just five of those games, with the wins coming against luminaries Rotherham, Sunderland, Lincoln City, Apollon Limassol, and Brighton. The Blues’ overall record when Gueye doesn’t play in the last two years is 5 wins, 11 losses, and 4 draws. If it wasn’t clear before, the numbers don’t lie - Idrissa Gueye makes Everton tick." Can’t be true, with all that tackling and intercepting he does whilst being out of position.... markjazzbassist 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted January 7, 2019 Report Share Posted January 7, 2019 4 minutes ago, markjazzbassist said: love brands. sure you can have gana, at 45m euros. pay over the odds or fuck off. That’s not over the odds, that’s still cheap. (Incoming neg from Pete and Co. in 5...4...) Shukes and markjazzbassist 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted January 7, 2019 Report Share Posted January 7, 2019 27 minutes ago, Matt said: That’s not over the odds, that’s still cheap. (Incoming neg from Pete and Co. in 5...4...) i love gana, really do, one of my favorites but that's over the odds matt. he's 29, players in his position drop off soon after 30, he relies on his high energy levels, speed and stamina. all things that decline with age. i love the man but he is no gareth barry (who played older because he was all about position and was always slow) honestly at his age i'd say 30m would be a coup, i think he's worth probably 20-25 due to age. 45m is fuck off money, hence brands putting the price there. 30m id still be happy, anything less than that and i'd be mad we lost him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted January 7, 2019 Report Share Posted January 7, 2019 20 minutes ago, markjazzbassist said: i love gana, really do, one of my favorites but that's over the odds matt. he's 29, players in his position drop off soon after 30, he relies on his high energy levels, speed and stamina. all things that decline with age. I remember some pundit or other saying "miles on the clock" was the reason for Wayne Rooney's relatively young decline and the fact that he'd started at the top level at sixteen and played something like 750 top flight/international games; Gana didn't play top flight in France until he was 20/21 and has roughly half the number of appearances. Shows absolutely no sign of slowing down to me, I'd be asking for €50m. Matt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete0 Posted January 7, 2019 Report Share Posted January 7, 2019 53 minutes ago, MikeO said: Interesting... "Since the beginning of last (2017-18) season, Everton have played without Gana on 20 occasions. They’ve won just five of those games, with the wins coming against luminaries Rotherham, Sunderland, Lincoln City, Apollon Limassol, and Brighton. The Blues’ overall record when Gueye doesn’t play in the last two years is 5 wins, 11 losses, and 4 draws. If it wasn’t clear before, the numbers don’t lie - Idrissa Gueye makes Everton tick." What are the 11 games he's missed. As this season he's only missed 3 of which we lost 2; spurs and city. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted January 7, 2019 Report Share Posted January 7, 2019 4 minutes ago, pete0 said: What are the 11 games he's missed. As this season he's only missed 3 of which we lost 2; spurs and city. Was just quoting from the article, if you think he's got his facts wrong (as well as his opinion that "almost nobody in world football is as good as Gana is at what he does defensively") you'd need to take it up with him. pete0 and StevO 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted January 7, 2019 Report Share Posted January 7, 2019 27 minutes ago, markjazzbassist said: i love gana, really do, one of my favorites but that's over the odds matt. he's 29, players in his position drop off soon after 30, he relies on his high energy levels, speed and stamina. all things that decline with age. i love the man but he is no gareth barry (who played older because he was all about position and was always slow) honestly at his age i'd say 30m would be a coup, i think he's worth probably 20-25 due to age. 45m is fuck off money, hence brands putting the price there. 30m id still be happy, anything less than that and i'd be mad we lost him. I know where you’re coming from, but if they’re selling Cavani for £50m, we should be asking for every penny of it and take advantage of their desperation Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted January 7, 2019 Report Share Posted January 7, 2019 11 minutes ago, MikeO said: I remember some pundit or other saying "miles on the clock" was the reason for Wayne Rooney's relatively young decline and the fact that he'd started at the top level at sixteen and played something like 750 top flight/international games; Gana didn't play top flight in France until he was 20/21 and has roughly half the number of appearances. Shows absolutely no sign of slowing down to me, I'd be asking for €50m. Actually looking at the figures Rooney played 800+ games while Gana, even including his early years at Lille B, has just over 400. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Bailey Posted January 7, 2019 Popular Post Report Share Posted January 7, 2019 In the Premier League we have played 9 games without starting Gana in the last two seasons. We beat Burnley (this season) and Brighton (last season). We drew twice with West Brom and once with Liverpool. We lost twice to Man City, and once with United and Spurs. The season before we lost to Chelsea but beat City, Palace, Bournemouth and West Brom whilst drawing with Stoke. I bet this post doesn't get as many likes Shukes, pete0, Sibdane and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted January 7, 2019 Report Share Posted January 7, 2019 10 minutes ago, Bailey said: In the Premier League we have played 9 games without starting Gana in the last two seasons. We beat Burnley (this season) and Brighton (last season). We drew twice with West Brom and once with Liverpool. We lost twice to Man City, and once with United and Spurs. The season before we lost to Chelsea but beat City, Palace, Bournemouth and West Brom whilst drawing with Stoke. I bet this post doesn't get as many likes Got a green for me for the research, but "the season before" clouds the issue does it not? It was his first for us and wasn't included in the stat in the first place so doesn't alter the point made by the dude who was talking about the last season and a half. Shukes 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted January 7, 2019 Report Share Posted January 7, 2019 2 minutes ago, MikeO said: Got a green for me for the research, but "the season before" clouds the issue does it not? It was his first for us and wasn't included in the stat in the first place so doesn't alter the point made by the dude who was talking about the last season and a half. He only missed one match until the ACN in January (which I think was a suspension - Chelsea) so I'm not sure it has too much of an influence. The cynic in me wonders why he didn't include the season before, nor mentions the teams we lost to in the league. He is a man after my own heart, using stats to fit his agenda Shukes 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevO Posted January 7, 2019 Report Share Posted January 7, 2019 6 hours ago, Matt said: I know where you’re coming from, but if they’re selling Cavani for £50m, we should be asking for every penny of it and take advantage of their desperation They are selling Cavani? Buy him!!! Sibdane 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sev Posted January 8, 2019 Report Share Posted January 8, 2019 13 hours ago, MikeO said: I remember some pundit or other saying "miles on the clock" was the reason for Wayne Rooney's relatively young decline and the fact that he'd started at the top level at sixteen and played something like 750 top flight/international games; Gana didn't play top flight in France until he was 20/21 and has roughly half the number of appearances. Shows absolutely no sign of slowing down to me, I'd be asking for €50m. You'd have to ask really nicely, wouldn't you. Could we be just a little bit more realistic here. €50m for a player that mostly does what we here call alibi-passing is hardly realistic, Mike. Have there been any other clubs asking/bidding on Gana? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted January 8, 2019 Report Share Posted January 8, 2019 8 hours ago, StevO said: They are selling Cavani? Buy him!!! Chelsea’s rumoured to be after him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted January 8, 2019 Report Share Posted January 8, 2019 4 hours ago, Sev said: You'd have to ask really nicely, wouldn't you. Could we be just a little bit more realistic here. €50m for a player that mostly does what we here call alibi-passing is hardly realistic, Mike. Have there been any other clubs asking/bidding on Gana? You'd have to ask Moshiri that, sadly he doesn't call me every day to keep me informed like Bill used to. Btay and Bailey 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncanmckenzieismagic Posted January 14, 2019 Author Report Share Posted January 14, 2019 https://www.express.co.uk/sport/football/1071785/Everton-Transfer-News-Idrissa-Gueye-House-Paris-Toffees-PSG-Price Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted January 14, 2019 Report Share Posted January 14, 2019 That price is ridiculous if true aaron 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shukes Posted January 14, 2019 Report Share Posted January 14, 2019 i Just pray Brands has something going on behind the scenes to replace him.. and get cover for that position. Weve seen what happens when he isn’t on the pitch, and it’s clear we have no back up for him. We should be going all out for cover/upgrade, not selling him. Especially in January... wait till the summer. MikeO 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted January 14, 2019 Report Share Posted January 14, 2019 We already need a player for his role so if he goes we need 2! Shukes 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palfy Posted January 14, 2019 Report Share Posted January 14, 2019 I’m not overly concerned about him leaving no surprises there I know, for me it would be a good opportunity to play a more expansive style of football, with the emphasis on good possession with the ball and moving it quicker with penetration plus we need 3 in the middle who have an understanding I have yet to see Gana strike up a good understanding with anyone he has played with in the way we saw with Barry and McCarthy, Sunday was another prime example we had a massive void in the middle of the park with Gana and Gomes nowhere near each other and Bournemouth were rampant in the first 35 minutes with no opposition from the middle. whether he’s a good player or not for me is not the issue I don’t wish to get into that so no posting or reciting stats, he doesn’t fit for me he doesn’t make us look like a team or part of the team. duncanmckenzieismagic, MikeO and aaron 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted January 14, 2019 Report Share Posted January 14, 2019 4 minutes ago, Palfy said: I’m not overly concerned about him leaving no surprises there I know, for me it would be a good opportunity to play a more expansive style of football, with the emphasis on good possession with the ball and moving it quicker with penetration plus we need 3 in the middle who have an understanding I have yet to see Gana strike up a good understanding with anyone he has played with in the way we saw with Barry and McCarthy, Sunday was another prime example we had a massive void in the middle of the park with Gana and Gomes nowhere near each other and Bournemouth were rampant in the first 35 minutes with no opposition from the middle. whether he’s a good player or not for me is not the issue I don’t wish to get into that so no posting or reciting stats, he doesn’t fit for me he doesn’t make us look like a team or part of the team. Big fat red from me. I'm out. duncanmckenzieismagic and Palfy 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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