StevO Posted January 31, 2022 Report Share Posted January 31, 2022 41 minutes ago, seve said: Also means if he is a success, he runs down his contract, we pay up to 40mil with all the clauses, and he leaves for nothing. One of those clauses could be if he extends the contract too. We just don’t know. Romey 1878 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RuffRob Posted January 31, 2022 Author Report Share Posted January 31, 2022 46 minutes ago, Romey 1878 said: If we're paying the full £40m then we're probably winning the league and qualifying for the CL, so he won't be wanting to go anywhere. its also up to £33.5M (40M Euros). So max price quoted is incorrectly inflated by 20% just on conversion rate. MikeO and StevO 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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nyblue23 Posted January 31, 2022 Report Share Posted January 31, 2022 4 hours ago, Bailey said: I can definitely see the appeal but Lampard is basically saying he can get more out of Alli than Mourinho, Nuno and Conte. Which is bold to say the least! I don’t think it’s that bold to think he could get more than Mourinho or Nuno by any means. Mourinho is notorious for bad relationships with players and Nuno isn’t great. Might be bold to think he could get more out of him than Conte, but sometimes players do just need a change of scenery. 4 hours ago, Isaiah said: From what I saw of that Spurs documentary he can sometimes be a bit petulant. Eric Dier had to tell him to stop acting like a spoiled kid... ...so hopefully he leaves that at the door because the last thing we need is trouble in the dressing room. I think Dier is more in the wrong here. Alli isn’t blaming anyone. He’s just expressing frustration. I’d be more worried if he was smiling or nonchalant. He’s clearly passionate about winning and hates losing. That’s the kind of player I want to play for Everton. StevO and MikeO 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BedfordBlue Posted January 31, 2022 Report Share Posted January 31, 2022 4 minutes ago, nyblue23 said: I don’t think it’s that bold to think he could get more than Mourinho or Nuno by any means. Mourinho is notorious for bad relationships with players and Nuno isn’t great. Might be bold to think he could get more out of him than Conte, but sometimes players do just need a change of scenery. I think Dier is more in the wrong here. Alli isn’t blaming anyone. He’s just expressing frustration. I’d be more worried if he was smiling or nonchalant. He’s clearly passionate about winning and hates losing. That’s the kind of player I want to play for Everton. Don't see anything wrong with what Alli did there StevO, MikeO, Aidan and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Btay Posted January 31, 2022 Report Share Posted January 31, 2022 Can’t doubt his ability or talent - it’s the bit between the ears for Alli. If Lampard can influence him at all in this area we’ve got a decent player. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Btay Posted January 31, 2022 Report Share Posted January 31, 2022 4 hours ago, Isaiah said: From what I saw of that Spurs documentary he can sometimes be a bit petulant. Eric Dier had to tell him to stop acting like a spoiled kid... ...so hopefully he leaves that at the door because the last thing we need is trouble in the dressing room. I have absolutely no issue with Alli there. I would hope someone in our dressing room right now is acting like that after defeat where as Dier is just sitting there like he doesn’t give a shit and only fires up because someone calls the team out for not being good enough. Also Alli is bang on not to name 1 person, he said it’s the whole team, including himself. Dier is way off in that exchange in my opinion. nyblue23 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aidan Posted January 31, 2022 Report Share Posted January 31, 2022 People opposed to us taking a small risk on Dele must be mad. Our midfield minus Allan and Doucoure is literally trash. Davies, Gbamin, Gomes... Alli walks straight in ahead of these three and would do with one leg missing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted January 31, 2022 Report Share Posted January 31, 2022 17 minutes ago, Btay said: Can’t doubt his ability or talent - it’s the bit between the ears for Alli. If Lampard can influence him at all in this area we’ve got a decent player. Is he that good of a footballer though? For me, he isn't, but he reads the game really well and gets himself on the end of things. He can finish too. I'm not sure what his other qualities are. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted January 31, 2022 Report Share Posted January 31, 2022 The deal sheet is in. Peter H 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aidan Posted January 31, 2022 Report Share Posted January 31, 2022 10 minutes ago, Bailey said: Is he that good of a footballer though? For me, he isn't, but he reads the game really well and gets himself on the end of things. He can finish too. I'm not sure what his other qualities are. I suppose sometimes that's all you need. If he can contribute to 15 or 20 goals a season I wouldn't be too concerned how good he is in other areas. If he doesn't it could be a problem. Whenever I think of him I recall that goal he scored where he flicked it over his head and volleyed it into the net from outside the box. That was a beautiful goal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harv Posted January 31, 2022 Report Share Posted January 31, 2022 It's a lot of cash, and no doubt wages. Why don't Spurs want him. Not one for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted January 31, 2022 Report Share Posted January 31, 2022 Just now, Harv said: It's a lot of cash, and no doubt wages. Why don't Spurs want him. Not one for me. But it's no cash at all if he flops (free transfer initially), will only be big cash if he/we have a lot of success, no brainer. RuffRob 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted January 31, 2022 Report Share Posted January 31, 2022 3 minutes ago, MikeO said: But it's no cash at all if he flops (free transfer initially), will only be big cash if he/we have a lot of success, no brainer. Mike, Mike, Mike don't you know how it works? For his whole time here he'll be talked about as a £40m signing even though he will never, ever be that. Just like Richarlison was signed for £50m whenever he's spoken about. MikeO and Matt 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted January 31, 2022 Report Share Posted January 31, 2022 2 minutes ago, Romey 1878 said: Mike, Mike, Mike don't you know how it works? I heard you the first time Romey 1878 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted January 31, 2022 Report Share Posted January 31, 2022 1 minute ago, MikeO said: I heard you the first time Sorry, it's just with you being such an old man and all... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted January 31, 2022 Report Share Posted January 31, 2022 8 minutes ago, Romey 1878 said: Sorry, it's just with you being such an old man and all... Fair enough Romey 1878 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted January 31, 2022 Report Share Posted January 31, 2022 Didn't we used to have an old man emoji that would shake a cane? Needs to be put back, ideally with the shortcut :Mike: Romey 1878 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted February 1, 2022 Report Share Posted February 1, 2022 14 minutes ago, Matt said: Didn't we used to have an old man emoji that would shake a cane? Needs to be put back, ideally with the shortcut :Mike: And on that note, I wish you all a good night. StevO, Matt, Newty82 and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goodison Glory Posted February 1, 2022 Report Share Posted February 1, 2022 Nailed it!! Matt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RuffRob Posted February 1, 2022 Author Report Share Posted February 1, 2022 In the past we have simply paid over the odds and given players like this too big a contracts. We have not done that this time. It a more sensible appoach. The risk/reward ratio profile is about right. Dele Alli has plenty left in the tank and if any manager is going to motivate a English goal scoring attacking midfeilder, its going to be a Frank Lampard - they just might be a very good fit. Gwlad and StevO 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harv Posted February 1, 2022 Report Share Posted February 1, 2022 45 minutes ago, MikeO said: But it's no cash at all if he flops (free transfer initially), will only be big cash if he/we have a lot of success, no brainer. Then they take him back if he shows some promise, after his trial with us. Got it. StevO 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aidan Posted February 1, 2022 Report Share Posted February 1, 2022 2 minutes ago, Harv said: Then they take him back if he shows some promise, after his trial with us. Got it. I'm confused, I don't think that's how it works. nyblue23, StevO and Isaiah 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted February 1, 2022 Report Share Posted February 1, 2022 Done nyblue23 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plaidharper Posted February 1, 2022 Report Share Posted February 1, 2022 1 minute ago, Romey 1878 said: Done We waited all that time for the video drop and no footage of Dele waving at the camera... nyblue23, Romey 1878, StevO and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoof_It_Nev Posted February 1, 2022 Report Share Posted February 1, 2022 Just now, plaidharper said: We waited all that time for the video drop and no footage of Dele waving at the camera... But it was capped off by the sounds of some banging drum and bass, last time that happened was Doucoure so I'm optimistic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted February 1, 2022 Report Share Posted February 1, 2022 https://www.evertonfc.com/news/2468642/dele-alli-signs-for-everton Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted February 1, 2022 Report Share Posted February 1, 2022 50 minutes ago, MikeO said: And on that note, I wish you all a good night. It's uncanny! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Goodison Glory Posted February 1, 2022 Popular Post Report Share Posted February 1, 2022 1 hour ago, Harv said: 1 hour ago, Aidan said: I'm confused, I don't think that's how it works. You're not the one whose confused. Spurs can't take him back he's our player. We are in total control of the finances on this one. If he plays shit, we stop playing him until we find a BUYER...and we don't pay another penny. If he plays out of this world then we have a business decision...are those results worth £10m, £20M then okay let's keep on playing him. Pretty sure if he scores the goals to keep us in the prem we won't mind the £10M for 20 appearances. StevO, Matt, nyblue23 and 2 others 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plaidharper Posted February 1, 2022 Report Share Posted February 1, 2022 3 minutes ago, Goodison Glory said: You're not the one whose confused. Spurs can't take him back he's our player. We are in total control of the finances on this one. If he plays shit, we stop playing him until we find a BUYER...and we don't pay another penny. If he plays out of this world then we have a business decision...are those results worth £10m, £20M then okay let's keep on playing him. Pretty sure if he scores the goals to keep us in the prem we won't mind the £10M for 20 appearances. Also he is cup tied and we do not have 20 games left. So technically he could help us stay up and we could sell him for straight profit in the summer. Makes me wonder if there is a sell on fee in the contract? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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