Aidan Posted January 31, 2022 Report Share Posted January 31, 2022 8 minutes ago, Hafnia said: Cent tosun on similar money just to put this into context I thought you meant he's just another Cenk Tosun then Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newty82 Posted January 31, 2022 Report Share Posted January 31, 2022 Good spot gents. Didn't even pick up on the 20 game, 19 left part. Must have been Dan Levy that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Posted January 31, 2022 Report Share Posted January 31, 2022 Ha Ha. You know what I mean Mike MikeO 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted January 31, 2022 Report Share Posted January 31, 2022 1 minute ago, Bill said: But he'll be off the books by the time we have to pay, just replacing one player with another which one would you keep? That’s the point I’m making. No brainer Bill 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted January 31, 2022 Report Share Posted January 31, 2022 Well that's a deal which shows you how ridiculous financial laws are. No questioning his potential ability. Its all about attitude, and that's my concern. However, his apparent arrogance might be exactly what we need at the moment, in that he'll have a point to prove and that confidence may rub off. More I think about it, more it makes sense. Just have massive doubts about his head. Shukes 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted January 31, 2022 Report Share Posted January 31, 2022 SSN saying it could rise to £40m... bit different. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dunlopp9987 Posted January 31, 2022 Report Share Posted January 31, 2022 1 minute ago, Romey 1878 said: SSN saying it could rise to £40m... bit different. Fuck off, send him back to London Romey 1878 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palfy Posted January 31, 2022 Report Share Posted January 31, 2022 How come we are making better deals now without a DoF insight Gwlad 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Matt Posted January 31, 2022 Report Share Posted January 31, 2022 2 minutes ago, Romey 1878 said: SSN saying it could rise to £40m... bit different. Ok well that's stupid depending on how it comes to that figure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dunlopp9987 Posted January 31, 2022 Report Share Posted January 31, 2022 Here's hoping the conditions to be met are things like winning a trophy or finishing in the top half. We'll be sure to have fleeced em then! AlbanyNYToffee and Romey 1878 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goodison Glory Posted January 31, 2022 Report Share Posted January 31, 2022 Depending on how the £40M is structured, I think basically it's a 6 month loan without being a loan. We would need to sell him or let him rot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aidan Posted January 31, 2022 Report Share Posted January 31, 2022 5 minutes ago, Goodison Glory said: Depending on how the £40M is structured, I think basically it's a 6 month loan without being a loan. We would need to sell him or let him rot. Yeah if the £10m is after 20 games, the rest of the £30m could be heavily performance based which isn't an issue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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BedfordBlue Posted January 31, 2022 Report Share Posted January 31, 2022 Looks like it's all performance based so if he's shit won't reach 20 games and would be free if he reaches the 40mil then guessing he would have done pretty well Romey 1878 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goodison Glory Posted January 31, 2022 Report Share Posted January 31, 2022 Wonder what his wages are? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shukes Posted January 31, 2022 Report Share Posted January 31, 2022 Excellent signing for that kind of price. If he reaches 30-40m then he has obviously worked out well for us and got us up the table…. Win win. A player that can be great on his day. Lampard could be the type of manager to get the best out of him, and I would guess believes he can. Whats going on? StevO and dunlopp9987 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dunlopp9987 Posted January 31, 2022 Report Share Posted January 31, 2022 Surely the 20 games clause is not just for this season. We're not smart enough to be able to slip something like that in there. Come to think of it, feels like that's something that could easily be slipped past us on a deal without anyone in the front office noticing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goodison Glory Posted January 31, 2022 Report Share Posted January 31, 2022 4 minutes ago, dunlopp9987 said: Surely the 20 games clause is not just for this season. We're not smart enough to be able to slip something like that in there. Come to think of it, feels like that's something that could easily be slipped past us on a deal without anyone in the front office noticing No it's 20 games full stop but he won't breach that mark this year so we won't have to pay it until next year. We will pay for it with all the wages we save (Gylfi, Cenk etc) dunlopp9987 and StevO 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RuffRob Posted January 31, 2022 Author Report Share Posted January 31, 2022 We will be reporting it £10m purchase and Spur will says it £40m sale. I guessing either Dele Alli or Everton will need to do very well for anywhere the £40m being met. chicagoblue 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncanmckenzieismagic Posted January 31, 2022 Report Share Posted January 31, 2022 https://www.skysports.com/football/news/11095/12529671/dele-alli-everton-in-talks-with-tottenham-over-permanent-move-for-midfielder-worth-40m Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted January 31, 2022 Report Share Posted January 31, 2022 The way the deal is structured is to help us get around FFP rules this season. I heavily suspect that means that these other conditions will be quite heavy the following year(s). His wages etc are going to be huge as well. To me this feels a bit like Siggy. I suspect it will be a fairly sizeable fee even if he doesnt do anything special and the money he will be on will be up there with our highest earners. As a player, he isn't for me. I watched him for Spurs recently and he didn't look good at all. He was ropey, a bit like a 35 year old not 25. Id have faith that Lampard knows how he wants to use him (and VDB) and there is no doubt that Alli will get goals. A bit like Cahill, all his other weaknesses as a footballer, are balanced by his ability to get into the box and score important goals. I can definitely see the appeal but Lampard is basically saying he can get more out of Alli than Mourinho, Nuno and Conte. Which is bold to say the least! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isaiah Posted January 31, 2022 Report Share Posted January 31, 2022 From what I saw of that Spurs documentary he can sometimes be a bit petulant. Eric Dier had to tell him to stop acting like a spoiled kid... ...so hopefully he leaves that at the door because the last thing we need is trouble in the dressing room. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palfy Posted January 31, 2022 Report Share Posted January 31, 2022 29 minutes ago, RuffRob said: We will be reporting it £10m purchase and Spur will says it £40m sale. I guessing either Dele Alli or Everton will need to do very well for anywhere the £40m being met. Well let’s hope we get to pay the 40m. StevO 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dunlopp9987 Posted January 31, 2022 Report Share Posted January 31, 2022 13 minutes ago, Bailey said: The way the deal is structured is to help us get around FFP rules this season. I heavily suspect that means that these other conditions will be quite heavy the following year(s). His wages etc are going to be huge as well. To me this feels a bit like Siggy. I suspect it will be a fairly sizeable fee even if he doesnt do anything special and the money he will be on will be up there with our highest earners. As a player, he isn't for me. I watched him for Spurs recently and he didn't look good at all. He was ropey, a bit like a 35 year old not 25. Id have faith that Lampard knows how he wants to use him (and VDB) and there is no doubt that Alli will get goals. A bit like Cahill, all his other weaknesses as a footballer, are balanced by his ability to get into the box and score important goals. I can definitely see the appeal but Lampard is basically saying he can get more out of Alli than Mourinho, Nuno and Conte. Which is bold to say the least! Good ol' Vonny Dan de Beek Bailey 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted January 31, 2022 Report Share Posted January 31, 2022 1 hour ago, Aidan said: Yeah if the £10m is after 20 games, the rest of the £30m could be heavily performance based which isn't an issue. Could include things like £10m if we win the CL, £5m if we win the PL, no way of knowing really so all speculation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aidan Posted January 31, 2022 Report Share Posted January 31, 2022 1 minute ago, MikeO said: Could include things like £10m if we win the CL, £5m if we win the PL, no way of knowing really so all speculation. I'm sure we can intentionally avoid winning anything for a couple of years to swerve those heavy Dele costs! MikeO, RuffRob and Romey 1878 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevO Posted January 31, 2022 Report Share Posted January 31, 2022 Just now, Aidan said: I'm sure we can intentionally avoid winning anything for a couple of years to swerve those heavy Dele costs! We’ve been saving a lot of bonus money for years! Aidan 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted January 31, 2022 Report Share Posted January 31, 2022 2 minutes ago, MikeO said: Could include things like £10m if we win the CL, £5m if we win the PL, no way of knowing really so all speculation. This is Levy and Bill we are talking about. Its probably £30mil for not getting relegated! MikeO, Matt and Romey 1878 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted January 31, 2022 Report Share Posted January 31, 2022 Newcastle looking to steal him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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