Sean Dyche

[Matt]

Shit, I agreed with you again. The end is nigh!

[Newty82]

49 minutes ago, Matt said:

Shit, I agreed with you again. The end is nigh!

Best to just keep whistling and scroll on by

[Gwlad]

We haven't had the money to spend so I think Thelwell has made the best with what he had. Desperately need a proven goal scorer but DCL is not at the party right now (personally hope he has a moment and can kick on). We haven't managed to get points from opponents that we probably should have so time is running out especially with another points deduction hanging in the balance. Can only hope that the likes of Doucs, Branthwaite, Harrison can chip in as well as DCL and Beto.

[RuffRob]

I think in normal circumstances Dyche might be going through a run of games where questions might start to be rasied about the team and how it's progressing results wise and playing wise under his management. 

However, we are so far removed from normal circumstances as a club could be.  Dyche is working under the most unusual circumstances we could really imagine at a football club. The points you have won being taken off you based on things that went on before your arrival and then with the spectre of even more points being taken away from you hanging over you. You add to this the madness of how the ownership and board situation is at this club, the long standing Chairman passing away. All these signficant things happening off the pitch over 2/3's of a season is quite astounding really.

All this has to negatively affect the players and football management side of the club.

The biggest thing that is really going against Dyche and the wider team at the moment seems to be a bit of luck - Performance wise easily half of our defeats/draws could have quite easily have turned out as wins on a different day. I don't beleive he as lost the players or dressing room at all, in fact they all seem to be working together to try and change the results. 

I imagine he would have loved to have been in the position 10 games ago to try and take on games a little more going in to them as a mid table team. However, he has had the tractor beam of the points deduction that is keeping us (and will do now for the rest of the season) pulled toward the bottom three - that in itself brings a nervouseness to the players and fans alike. 

Everton are at what I feel is a very delecate tipping point at the moment -  Until the points deductions and ownership issues are sorted out, the last thing we should do is be trying to change manager again. Especailly as Dyches main downfall to me has been that he's been very unlucky this season - both on and off the pitch.

If this had been a 'normal' season, just about football - I could quite easily see this team having a two or three more wins under their belt and now being safe on between 35-40 points. 

I would actually like to see Dyche manage in to next season, with hopefully points deduction behind us and a new owner and board in place - to me he has and is showing enough to suggest he deserves a normal season.

[Tonsta]

I think Dyche is doing a good job under extremely difficult circumstances, are there any board members left at the club.

Questions about our point's appeal, about the new ground, about the ownership, about players in or out.

Only one man is in front of the camera SD and he never dodges a question. 

This club is in the worst pace at the moment in its history, one man is keeping it going and fighting for us fans.

Without our points deduction we are 13th and comfortable, not been able to say that for many a year.

Give the man time, and a budget, and a proper run club, then judge him.

[Matt]

24 minutes ago, RuffRob said:

I think in normal circumstances Dyche might be going through a run of games where questions might start to be rasied about the team and how it's progressing results wise and playing wise under his management. 

However, we are so far removed from normal circumstances as a club could be.  Dyche is working under the most unusual circumstances we could really imagine at a football club. The points you have won being taken off you based on things that went on before your arrival and then with the spectre of even more points being taken away from you hanging over you. You add to this the madness of how the ownership and board situation is at this club, the long standing Chairman passing away. All these signficant things happening off the pitch over 2/3's of a season is quite astounding really.

All this has to negatively affect the players and football management side of the club.

The biggest thing that is really going against Dyche and the wider team at the moment seems to be a bit of luck - Performance wise easily half of our defeats/draws could have quite easily have turned out as wins on a different day. I don't beleive he as lost the players or dressing room at all, in fact they all seem to be working together to try and change the results. 

I imagine he would have loved to have been in the position 10 games ago to try and take on games a little more going in to them as a mid table team. However, he has had the tractor beam of the points deduction that is keeping us (and will do now for the rest of the season) pulled toward the bottom three - that in itself brings a nervouseness to the players and fans alike. 

Everton are at what I feel is a very delecate tipping point at the moment -  Until the points deductions and ownership issues are sorted out, the last thing we should do is be trying to change manager again. Especailly as Dyches main downfall to me has been that he's been very unlucky this season - both on and off the pitch.

If this had been a 'normal' season, just about football - I could quite easily see this team having a two or three more wins under their belt and now being safe on between 35-40 points. 

I would actually like to see Dyche manage in to next season, with hopefully points deduction behind us and a new owner and board in place - to me he has and is showing enough to suggest he deserves a normal season.

[Sev]

18 hours ago, Gwlad said:

We haven't had the money to spend so I think Thelwell has made the best with what he had. Desperately need a proven goal scorer but DCL is not at the party right now (personally hope he has a moment and can kick on). We haven't managed to get points from opponents that we probably should have so time is running out especially with another points deduction hanging in the balance. Can only hope that the likes of Doucs, Branthwaite, Harrison can chip in as well as DCL and Beto.

Thelwell did indeed do what was possible with the lack of funds we have and how attractive our club is. Respect for him and very much agree with you.

But to hope that players can perform is not really my cup of tea... ehh coffee; if it's up to hope then you have no control Then you leave the decisions to things not reachable. But ok, I know what you mean

[dunlopp9987]

4 hours ago, RuffRob said:

I think in normal circumstances Dyche might be going through a run of games where questions might start to be rasied about the team and how it's progressing results wise and playing wise under his management. 

However, we are so far removed from normal circumstances as a club could be.  Dyche is working under the most unusual circumstances we could really imagine at a football club. The points you have won being taken off you based on things that went on before your arrival and then with the spectre of even more points being taken away from you hanging over you. You add to this the madness of how the ownership and board situation is at this club, the long standing Chairman passing away. All these signficant things happening off the pitch over 2/3's of a season is quite astounding really.

All this has to negatively affect the players and football management side of the club.

The biggest thing that is really going against Dyche and the wider team at the moment seems to be a bit of luck - Performance wise easily half of our defeats/draws could have quite easily have turned out as wins on a different day. I don't beleive he as lost the players or dressing room at all, in fact they all seem to be working together to try and change the results. 

I imagine he would have loved to have been in the position 10 games ago to try and take on games a little more going in to them as a mid table team. However, he has had the tractor beam of the points deduction that is keeping us (and will do now for the rest of the season) pulled toward the bottom three - that in itself brings a nervouseness to the players and fans alike. 

Everton are at what I feel is a very delecate tipping point at the moment -  Until the points deductions and ownership issues are sorted out, the last thing we should do is be trying to change manager again. Especailly as Dyches main downfall to me has been that he's been very unlucky this season - both on and off the pitch.

If this had been a 'normal' season, just about football - I could quite easily see this team having a two or three more wins under their belt and now being safe on between 35-40 points. 

I would actually like to see Dyche manage in to next season, with hopefully points deduction behind us and a new owner and board in place - to me he has and is showing enough to suggest he deserves a normal season.

This post is @Hafnia's worst nightmare

[Newty82]

17 hours ago, RuffRob said:

I think in normal circumstances Dyche might be going through a run of games where questions might start to be rasied about the team and how it's progressing results wise and playing wise under his management. 

However, we are so far removed from normal circumstances as a club could be.  Dyche is working under the most unusual circumstances we could really imagine at a football club. The points you have won being taken off you based on things that went on before your arrival and then with the spectre of even more points being taken away from you hanging over you. You add to this the madness of how the ownership and board situation is at this club, the long standing Chairman passing away. All these signficant things happening off the pitch over 2/3's of a season is quite astounding really.

All this has to negatively affect the players and football management side of the club.

The biggest thing that is really going against Dyche and the wider team at the moment seems to be a bit of luck - Performance wise easily half of our defeats/draws could have quite easily have turned out as wins on a different day. I don't beleive he as lost the players or dressing room at all, in fact they all seem to be working together to try and change the results. 

I imagine he would have loved to have been in the position 10 games ago to try and take on games a little more going in to them as a mid table team. However, he has had the tractor beam of the points deduction that is keeping us (and will do now for the rest of the season) pulled toward the bottom three - that in itself brings a nervouseness to the players and fans alike. 

Everton are at what I feel is a very delecate tipping point at the moment -  Until the points deductions and ownership issues are sorted out, the last thing we should do is be trying to change manager again. Especailly as Dyches main downfall to me has been that he's been very unlucky this season - both on and off the pitch.

If this had been a 'normal' season, just about football - I could quite easily see this team having a two or three more wins under their belt and now being safe on between 35-40 points. 

I would actually like to see Dyche manage in to next season, with hopefully points deduction behind us and a new owner and board in place - to me he has and is showing enough to suggest he deserves a normal season.

Superb.

Rational, Balanced, Fair, Factual.

A rare find on this forum!

[Palfy]

Looking at our remaining games this season I think our season could rest on whether we beat Forest at home, with the real chance that we could both be deducted 6 points a piece before the season ends, that in my view would put Luton in the clear and leave us and Forest to battle it out for 17th spot, and one of us will then survive on possibly the lowest points scored to remain in the league. 
And if we can achieve that with a total 12 points deduction for the season, and a paper thin squad, that would be a huge accolade to all involved in the team, and imo it should go down as our miracle season with all that’s been happening in the background just to make things that little bit harder. 

[Newty82]

13 hours ago, Palfy said:

Looking at our remaining games this season I think our season could rest on whether we beat Forest at home, with the real chance that we could both be deducted 6 points a piece before the season ends, that in my view would put Luton in the clear and leave us and Forest to battle it out for 17th spot, and one of us will then survive on possibly the lowest points scored to remain in the league. 
And if we can achieve that with a total 12 points deduction for the season, and a paper thin squad, that would be a huge accolade to all involved in the team, and imo it should go down as our miracle season with all that’s been happening in the background just to make things that little bit harder. 

...and The Ginger Bearded One should get PL Manager of the Year.

[Btay]

22 hours ago, Palfy said:

Looking at our remaining games this season I think our season could rest on whether we beat Forest at home, with the real chance that we could both be deducted 6 points a piece before the season ends, that in my view would put Luton in the clear and leave us and Forest to battle it out for 17th spot, and one of us will then survive on possibly the lowest points scored to remain in the league. 
And if we can achieve that with a total 12 points deduction for the season, and a paper thin squad, that would be a huge accolade to all involved in the team, and imo it should go down as our miracle season with all that’s been happening in the background just to make things that little bit harder. 

It’s in our hands though & we have shown this season already we are capable of stringing wins together.

Agree wholeheartedly with the second point.

[Hafnia]

On 05/03/2024 at 13:21, RuffRob said:

I think in normal circumstances Dyche might be going through a run of games where questions might start to be rasied about the team and how it's progressing results wise and playing wise under his management. 

However, we are so far removed from normal circumstances as a club could be.  Dyche is working under the most unusual circumstances we could really imagine at a football club. The points you have won being taken off you based on things that went on before your arrival and then with the spectre of even more points being taken away from you hanging over you. You add to this the madness of how the ownership and board situation is at this club, the long standing Chairman passing away. All these signficant things happening off the pitch over 2/3's of a season is quite astounding really.

All this has to negatively affect the players and football management side of the club.

The biggest thing that is really going against Dyche and the wider team at the moment seems to be a bit of luck - Performance wise easily half of our defeats/draws could have quite easily have turned out as wins on a different day. I don't beleive he as lost the players or dressing room at all, in fact they all seem to be working together to try and change the results. 

I imagine he would have loved to have been in the position 10 games ago to try and take on games a little more going in to them as a mid table team. However, he has had the tractor beam of the points deduction that is keeping us (and will do now for the rest of the season) pulled toward the bottom three - that in itself brings a nervouseness to the players and fans alike. 

Everton are at what I feel is a very delecate tipping point at the moment -  Until the points deductions and ownership issues are sorted out, the last thing we should do is be trying to change manager again. Especailly as Dyches main downfall to me has been that he's been very unlucky this season - both on and off the pitch.

If this had been a 'normal' season, just about football - I could quite easily see this team having a two or three more wins under their belt and now being safe on between 35-40 points. 

I would actually like to see Dyche manage in to next season, with hopefully points deduction behind us and a new owner and board in place - to me he has and is showing enough to suggest he deserves a normal season.

In dyches own words - nothing changes , game on Saturday, that's off the pitch.  We went on a winning streak when points were docked. We've now gone nearly 3 months without a win. 

The chairman and board never attended out games since over a year ago after the false headlock allegations.  

Let's be objective here .... how do these things contribute to dyches frankly appalling in game management?  We are throwing points away late on in games cos players are dead on their feet and he won't make changes. When he does the momentum and tempo has gone. 
 

I'll be honest with you, I said it at the time - onanas penalty knocked the stuffing out of our side.  Since then a combination of piss poor decision making, and throwing away points has done us.

Dyche has thrown the players under the bus for not scoring so let's see how they respond

 

 

[RuffRob]

Behind the scenes this club must be a cauldren of stress and anxiety at the moment. It is effectievly rudderless at the very top with lot of very seriouse stuff going on - 3/4 the way thought a new stadium build with massive cheques needing to be signed weekly, point deducutions and appeals going on over the whole season (the results of which could make the difference between us going down and staying up), possible new owners who everybody knows are not without there own risks (we are NOT getting a Middle East consortium with effectively endless resourses), we are effectively searching down the back of the sofa for any spare £1M at this moment in time to try and fund our new stadium and intrest payment that come with it.

This is not a great place to be a manager at the moment - anybody with a ounce sence would steer clear for the next 18months until the dust has well and truly settled. I am pretty sure if Dyche had crystal ball and had known what was likley to be the working conditions at the club when he was offered the job, he may very well have passed and waited for a more normal job to come along, one that was simply about the football on the pitch!! .

If the club paniked and got rid, who of the calibre needed would be queing up to take on the Everton manager roles and be better placed than Dyche to get us over the line in the next 11 games.

I think Dyche has been very supportive of the players who are going on the pitch week in week out. It's obviouse for all to see that players ARE missing chance after chance, he can only say some many time - they have the 'freedom to miss chances'. We all know; players included, they are going to have to start put a few more of them away at sometime. He is far from throwing players under the bus.

I and others are a long way from thinking Dyche is perfect, but he is a fairly good fit for this club at the moment. He is a manager who does not go around crying about the situation the clubs in, he rolls his sleeves up and deals with it, and he is getting players to do the same. There are plenty of things going on at this club where a managers or players could be quite easily thinking "what's the f8cking point' its a circus around this place, I'll probably be better off somewhere else come the summer!!". I don't feel this at all from Dyche and the squad.  

None of us were expecting miracles this season, we all though mid table mediocrity would be plenty acceptable this season given upheaval and resources at the club, just keeping away from a third relegation battle. If we take away the point deductions, then that is pretty much where we are as a footballing side (and maybe this is what Dyche is as a manager). But at this very moment in time I am more than satisfied with mediocrity, I am very weary of trying to change things up on the management side, as another minor slip in this department would see us relegated. Premiership is a very unforgiving league and given o

A time to stick not twist. 

 

[dunlopp9987]

2 hours ago, RuffRob said:

Behind the scenes this club must be a cauldren of stress and anxiety at the moment. It is effectievly rudderless at the very top with lot of very seriouse stuff going on - 3/4 the way thought a new stadium build with massive cheques needing to be signed weekly, point deducutions and appeals going on over the whole season (the results of which could make the difference between us going down and staying up), possible new owners who everybody knows are not without there own risks (we are NOT getting a Middle East consortium with effectively endless resourses), we are effectively searching down the back of the sofa for any spare £1M at this moment in time to try and fund our new stadium and intrest payment that come with it.

This is not a great place to be a manager at the moment - anybody with a ounce sence would steer clear for the next 18months until the dust has well and truly settled. I am pretty sure if Dyche had crystal ball and had known what was likley to be the working conditions at the club when he was offered the job, he may very well have passed and waited for a more normal job to come along, one that was simply about the football on the pitch!! .

If the club paniked and got rid, who of the calibre needed would be queing up to take on the Everton manager roles and be better placed than Dyche to get us over the line in the next 11 games.

I think Dyche has been very supportive of the players who are going on the pitch week in week out. It's obviouse for all to see that players ARE missing chance after chance, he can only say some many time - they have the 'freedom to miss chances'. We all know; players included, they are going to have to start put a few more of them away at sometime. He is far from throwing players under the bus.

I and others are a long way from thinking Dyche is perfect, but he is a fairly good fit for this club at the moment. He is a manager who does not go around crying about the situation the clubs in, he rolls his sleeves up and deals with it, and he is getting players to do the same. There are plenty of things going on at this club where a managers or players could be quite easily thinking "what's the f8cking point' its a circus around this place, I'll probably be better off somewhere else come the summer!!". I don't feel this at all from Dyche and the squad.  

None of us were expecting miracles this season, we all though mid table mediocrity would be plenty acceptable this season given upheaval and resources at the club, just keeping away from a third relegation battle. If we take away the point deductions, then that is pretty much where we are as a footballing side (and maybe this is what Dyche is as a manager). But at this very moment in time I am more than satisfied with mediocrity, I am very weary of trying to change things up on the management side, as another minor slip in this department would see us relegated. Premiership is a very unforgiving league and given o

A time to stick not twist. 

 

By god he's done it again. Well said.

[Matt]

2 hours ago, RuffRob said:

Behind the scenes this club must be a cauldren of stress and anxiety at the moment. It is effectievly rudderless at the very top with lot of very seriouse stuff going on - 3/4 the way thought a new stadium build with massive cheques needing to be signed weekly, point deducutions and appeals going on over the whole season (the results of which could make the difference between us going down and staying up), possible new owners who everybody knows are not without there own risks (we are NOT getting a Middle East consortium with effectively endless resourses), we are effectively searching down the back of the sofa for any spare £1M at this moment in time to try and fund our new stadium and intrest payment that come with it.

This is not a great place to be a manager at the moment - anybody with a ounce sence would steer clear for the next 18months until the dust has well and truly settled. I am pretty sure if Dyche had crystal ball and had known what was likley to be the working conditions at the club when he was offered the job, he may very well have passed and waited for a more normal job to come along, one that was simply about the football on the pitch!! .

If the club paniked and got rid, who of the calibre needed would be queing up to take on the Everton manager roles and be better placed than Dyche to get us over the line in the next 11 games.

I think Dyche has been very supportive of the players who are going on the pitch week in week out. It's obviouse for all to see that players ARE missing chance after chance, he can only say some many time - they have the 'freedom to miss chances'. We all know; players included, they are going to have to start put a few more of them away at sometime. He is far from throwing players under the bus.

I and others are a long way from thinking Dyche is perfect, but he is a fairly good fit for this club at the moment. He is a manager who does not go around crying about the situation the clubs in, he rolls his sleeves up and deals with it, and he is getting players to do the same. There are plenty of things going on at this club where a managers or players could be quite easily thinking "what's the f8cking point' its a circus around this place, I'll probably be better off somewhere else come the summer!!". I don't feel this at all from Dyche and the squad.  

None of us were expecting miracles this season, we all though mid table mediocrity would be plenty acceptable this season given upheaval and resources at the club, just keeping away from a third relegation battle. If we take away the point deductions, then that is pretty much where we are as a footballing side (and maybe this is what Dyche is as a manager). But at this very moment in time I am more than satisfied with mediocrity, I am very weary of trying to change things up on the management side, as another minor slip in this department would see us relegated. Premiership is a very unforgiving league and given o

A time to stick not twist. 

 

The only bit I disagree with is I think he would've come regardless. Everything else you've said I agree with but don't forget that we are a big club so we are attractive to a lot of managers. That said, I don't think anyone else would join without major incentives and Dyche is here and willing so he gets my support despite his short comings. If by the end of next season we're still playing turgid football after he's had some transfer support (assuming there's any coming with the takeover) then he should go. But he was the best man for the job when he signed and continues to be so for now. 

[Formby]

1 hour ago, Matt said:

The only bit I disagree with is I think he would've come regardless. Everything else you've said I agree with but don't forget that we are a big club so we are attractive to a lot of managers. That said, I don't think anyone else would join without major incentives and Dyche is here and willing so he gets my support despite his short comings. If by the end of next season we're still playing turgid football after he's had some transfer support (assuming there's any coming with the takeover) then he should go. But he was the best man for the job when he signed and continues to be so for now. 

And I agree with all of this except the word 'turgid'!  I think you mean 'torpid'! I am not sure how turgid came to be associated with all things dull, lifeless, boring, lazy, monotonous etc, (especially in football commentary) but it's not what it means! Apologies for the pedantry!

[Newty82]

4 hours ago, RuffRob said:

Behind the scenes this club must be a cauldren of stress and anxiety at the moment. It is effectievly rudderless at the very top with lot of very seriouse stuff going on - 3/4 the way thought a new stadium build with massive cheques needing to be signed weekly, point deducutions and appeals going on over the whole season (the results of which could make the difference between us going down and staying up), possible new owners who everybody knows are not without there own risks (we are NOT getting a Middle East consortium with effectively endless resourses), we are effectively searching down the back of the sofa for any spare £1M at this moment in time to try and fund our new stadium and intrest payment that come with it.

This is not a great place to be a manager at the moment - anybody with a ounce sence would steer clear for the next 18months until the dust has well and truly settled. I am pretty sure if Dyche had crystal ball and had known what was likley to be the working conditions at the club when he was offered the job, he may very well have passed and waited for a more normal job to come along, one that was simply about the football on the pitch!! .

If the club paniked and got rid, who of the calibre needed would be queing up to take on the Everton manager roles and be better placed than Dyche to get us over the line in the next 11 games.

I think Dyche has been very supportive of the players who are going on the pitch week in week out. It's obviouse for all to see that players ARE missing chance after chance, he can only say some many time - they have the 'freedom to miss chances'. We all know; players included, they are going to have to start put a few more of them away at sometime. He is far from throwing players under the bus.

I and others are a long way from thinking Dyche is perfect, but he is a fairly good fit for this club at the moment. He is a manager who does not go around crying about the situation the clubs in, he rolls his sleeves up and deals with it, and he is getting players to do the same. There are plenty of things going on at this club where a managers or players could be quite easily thinking "what's the f8cking point' its a circus around this place, I'll probably be better off somewhere else come the summer!!". I don't feel this at all from Dyche and the squad.  

None of us were expecting miracles this season, we all though mid table mediocrity would be plenty acceptable this season given upheaval and resources at the club, just keeping away from a third relegation battle. If we take away the point deductions, then that is pretty much where we are as a footballing side (and maybe this is what Dyche is as a manager). But at this very moment in time I am more than satisfied with mediocrity, I am very weary of trying to change things up on the management side, as another minor slip in this department would see us relegated. Premiership is a very unforgiving league and given o

A time to stick not twist. 

 

Absolutely  

[MikeO]

On 04/03/2024 at 14:24, Hafnia said:

Make changes sooner and then maybe we wouldn't concede 27 of the 43 we've conceded in the last 20 minutes of a game.  He makes subs when the tempo has already dropped -  too late!

We concede most of our goals after making substitutions so you want them done earlier?

Makes perfect sense

[Matt]

1 hour ago, Formby said:

And I agree with all of this except the word 'turgid'!  I think you mean 'torpid'! I am not sure how turgid came to be associated with all things dull, lifeless, boring, lazy, monotonous etc, (especially in football commentary) but it's not what it means! Apologies for the pedantry!

Learnt something new, thanks

 

[Sev]

Personally I couldn't care less when subs are being made, just as long as they make sense and done at the right time...ish. An obvious sub being made too late in a game doesn't help anyone in the team. Or sub someone when really not needed.

Then there's the starting 11. I don't get to see the training, but players not performing as they should in earlier games, for whatever reason, should probably be replaced with others. You play as a team and you work as a team, damn it. I could name a few players that doesn't really do their best at that, and I don't think they should play until they lose a bit of their selfishness.

I know our squad is not as big as we would like it to be, but to me it just look like that there are certain players that get picked almost no matter what.

I don't know. It's indeed tough times for us and we're going through a lot in these years. Hopefully all this crap will in some way strengthen us in a near future. We're one of the biggest clubs and I'd like to see us behave and play like one again.

Patience, Sev ...

[Sev]

21 minutes ago, Matt said:

Learnt something new, thanks

 

I thought you wrote *turnip* first hehe. Playing like a turnip, why not

[Romey 1878]

2 hours ago, Formby said:

And I agree with all of this except the word 'turgid'!  I think you mean 'torpid'! I am not sure how turgid came to be associated with all things dull, lifeless, boring, lazy, monotonous etc, (especially in football commentary) but it's not what it means! Apologies for the pedantry!

@MikeOloves this.

[Palfy]

3 hours ago, Formby said:

And I agree with all of this except the word 'turgid'!  I think you mean 'torpid'! I am not sure how turgid came to be associated with all things dull, lifeless, boring, lazy, monotonous etc, (especially in football commentary) but it's not what it means! Apologies for the pedantry!

You sound like a disciple of Mike, I’m sure he will be proud of you

[Hafnia]

3 hours ago, MikeO said:

We concede most of our goals after making substitutions so you want them done earlier?

Makes perfect sense

I've Already clarified this Mike.  I have said he waits till players legs have gone and all tempo is out the side. By the time the subs are on the opponents have the impetus and we are on the back foot.

happens all the time. 

Reactive, reactive, reactive.  Nearly every single match thread you see posters making observations about certain players being gassed...... shouldn't even get to that stage. 

 

[Formby]

4 hours ago, Palfy said:

You sound like a disciple of Mike, I’m sure he will be proud of you

Mike-lite! 

[duncanmckenzieismagic]

https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/no-one-ready-sean-dyche-28784044

No surprise really after we were forced to sell the future of the club to pay for the past

[Romey 1878]

1 hour ago, duncanmckenzieismagic said:

https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/no-one-ready-sean-dyche-28784044

No surprise really after we were forced to sell the future of the club to pay for the past

You really think Simms was the future of Everton? Really?

I'm disappointed with Cannon being sold though, but I think he also wanted to go and play first team football properly after being given a taste of it on loan at Preston.

[Btay]

4 hours ago, Romey 1878 said:

You really think Simms was the future of Everton? Really?

I'm disappointed with Cannon being sold though, but I think he also wanted to go and play first team football properly after being given a taste of it on loan at Preston.

Cannon is a big loss for us. Feel like he is going to be a proper player.

[duncanmckenzieismagic]

12 hours ago, Romey 1878 said:

You really think Simms was the future of Everton? Really?

I'm disappointed with Cannon being sold though, but I think he also wanted to go and play first team football properly after being given a taste of it on loan at Preston.

Erm no, not quite sure how you came to that conclusion to be honest. I was more thinking Cannon and Samuel’s-Smith