Zoo 2.0 Posted August 21, 2023 Report Share Posted August 21, 2023 2 minutes ago, lacedupshoes said: If we get Adams in, that would give Dyche some different options as well. Between injured, a bit shit and not a footballer you mean? lacedupshoes, Btay, AlbanyNYToffee and 1 other 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Btay Posted August 22, 2023 Report Share Posted August 22, 2023 11 hours ago, Matt said: When we dont have injuries to worry about, I'd put Doucoure back with Garner centrally, drop Gana, Onana and Iwobi. McNeil and Harrison down the wings, Danjuma either leading the line or behind Dom. I really don’t think Doucoure is who we want in midfield, he gives the ball away so much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted August 22, 2023 Report Share Posted August 22, 2023 4 hours ago, Btay said: I really don’t think Doucoure is who we want in midfield, he gives the ball away so much. He's box to box. He hassles, Garner picks the ball when we're defending. When we have the ball, he runs forward to lead the charge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palfy Posted August 22, 2023 Report Share Posted August 22, 2023 If you took Doucoure and Iwobi out of our team this season we would be more useless than we are now, they are our engine there’s no one else in the team who can get through the amount of work they do at both ends of the pitch and with pace, doesn’t bare thinking about at the moment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shukes Posted August 22, 2023 Report Share Posted August 22, 2023 Unless we replace them with Danjuma and Harrison. Then I think you would start to see that these two players are only average players and not very instrumental in our set up. Duke scored some priceless goals for us last season and I love him for it. But he also missed some absolute stinkers that could have been scored by half of our team. With Danjuma giving us a more attacking profile I could see Garner filling his role with ease. As you know I’m not a fan of Iwobi, but I do recognise that up until now, he has been our best option. And I’ve supported him at the stadium every week. I’ve even voted him MotM when I thought he deserved it. But I think Harrison will be a massive improvement on him. I also really want to see Deli given a chance at some point. He could feel like a cheap new player. Btay and StevO 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boston Toffee Posted August 22, 2023 Report Share Posted August 22, 2023 The clock ticks..no sense of urgency.. we are gonna have one sad lineup Saturday in an important game. Wolves will be licking their chops... no one brought in.... again Matt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted August 22, 2023 Report Share Posted August 22, 2023 6 minutes ago, Boston Toffee said: The clock ticks..no sense of urgency.. we are gonna have one sad lineup Saturday in an important game. Wolves will be licking their chops... no one brought in.... again To be fair, the 1 thing that seems to have changed this window. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boston Toffee Posted August 22, 2023 Report Share Posted August 22, 2023 3 minutes ago, Matt said: To be fair, the 1 thing that seems to have changed this window. I guess I look at it differently. We brought 2 guys in who can play now. But haven't addressed striker situation or cb and throwing points away. Window has been open for a bit now. I guess I just expect too much. With no money they are probably doing their best bit it's so frustrating Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted August 22, 2023 Report Share Posted August 22, 2023 8 minutes ago, Boston Toffee said: I guess I look at it differently. We brought 2 guys in who can play now. But haven't addressed striker situation or cb and throwing points away. Window has been open for a bit now. I guess I just expect too much. With no money they are probably doing their best bit it's so frustrating I assume you're new to the club dunlopp9987, StevO and Newty82 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boston Toffee Posted August 22, 2023 Report Share Posted August 22, 2023 7 minutes ago, Matt said: I assume you're new to the club I know Everton that as they say!!! Newty82 and Matt 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goodison Glory Posted August 22, 2023 Report Share Posted August 22, 2023 2 hours ago, Palfy said: If you took Doucoure and Iwobi out of our team this season we would be more useless than we are now, they are our engine there’s no one else in the team who can get through the amount of work they do at both ends of the pitch and with pace, doesn’t bare thinking about at the moment. I don't find iwobi particularly fast and he doesn't run like he is giving his all. That could just be his running style but he looks like he jogs back not sprints....doucs I agree with (stamina and a good engine) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted August 22, 2023 Report Share Posted August 22, 2023 1 minute ago, Goodison Glory said: I don't find iwobi particularly fast and he doesn't run like he is giving his all. That could just be his running style but he looks like he jogs back not sprints....doucs I agree with (stamina and a good engine) That's because he runs like Phoebe in Friends StevO, Newty82, Palfy and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palfy Posted August 22, 2023 Report Share Posted August 22, 2023 1 hour ago, Goodison Glory said: I don't find iwobi particularly fast and he doesn't run like he is giving his all. That could just be his running style but he looks like he jogs back not sprints....doucs I agree with (stamina and a good engine) What you didn’t watch the Fulham game I take it when he was skinning and burning their RB for pace, and then getting back when it broke down to back Young up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gwlad Posted August 22, 2023 Report Share Posted August 22, 2023 4 hours ago, Shukes said: Unless we replace them with Danjuma and Harrison. Then I think you would start to see that these two players are only average players and not very instrumental in our set up. Duke scored some priceless goals for us last season and I love him for it. But he also missed some absolute stinkers that could have been scored by half of our team. With Danjuma giving us a more attacking profile I could see Garner filling his role with ease. As you know I’m not a fan of Iwobi, but I do recognise that up until now, he has been our best option. And I’ve supported him at the stadium every week. I’ve even voted him MotM when I thought he deserved it. But I think Harrison will be a massive improvement on him. I also really want to see Deli given a chance at some point. He could feel like a cheap new player. I want to see these young players play. Nothing to lose and I know it's not a direct comparison by any means but Kane starts for Bayern and hits the ground running. Why do we always keep new signings in cotton wool "need to adapt to the Premier League" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goodison Glory Posted August 22, 2023 Report Share Posted August 22, 2023 2 hours ago, Palfy said: What you didn’t watch the Fulham game I take it when he was skinning and burning their RB for pace, and then getting back when it broke down to back Young up. Yes I watched the game...no I didn't see what you are referring to. My issue is with him going the other way. I'll take your word for it that he is a winger who skins people Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevO Posted August 22, 2023 Report Share Posted August 22, 2023 3 hours ago, Gwlad said: I want to see these young players play. Nothing to lose and I know it's not a direct comparison by any means but Kane starts for Bayern and hits the ground running. Why do we always keep new signings in cotton wool "need to adapt to the Premier League" Because we don’t buy players as good as Harry Kane. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevO Posted August 22, 2023 Report Share Posted August 22, 2023 2 hours ago, Goodison Glory said: Yes I watched the game...no I didn't see what you are referring to. My issue is with him going the other way. I'll take your word for it that he is a winger who skins people You didn’t see him run off the pitch and back on again leaving a few players behind him? How could you not see that? Was the best part of the game. Palfy, Btay and Bailey 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palfy Posted August 22, 2023 Report Share Posted August 22, 2023 1 hour ago, StevO said: You didn’t see him run off the pitch and back on again leaving a few players behind him? How could you not see that? Was the best part of the game. Some see what they want to see. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shukes Posted August 23, 2023 Report Share Posted August 23, 2023 7 hours ago, StevO said: You didn’t see him run off the pitch and back on again leaving a few players behind him? How could you not see that? Was the best part of the game. I saw that. Was a great bit of football from him. My problem with him is that I can’t remember him ever doing that a second time. Like Doucoure scoring that thunderous volley…. I don’t think Doucoure is suddenly a great goalscorer either. Did anyone see McNeil run forward and hit a sweet left foot? Question would be…. Which time? Even Dom. Can anyone remember him stretching in the box and getting on the end of a cross…. Again which time? Anyone remember Iwobi surfing down the line past a player? Answer…. Yes I can remember the date time and opponents. It’s on his highlight reel! Sorry Palf I love him really StevO and Matt 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newty82 Posted August 23, 2023 Report Share Posted August 23, 2023 Oh it's happening to me/us again. That fade of hope into 'oh here we go again'. If we enter the final week of this window with no more confirmations, it'll fade that hope even more. Prices and deals tend to get tough to negotiate in the final week. I know the reality of our financial situation, but the way we shifted players out quite quickly made me think we had this sussed. To go into the final week still needing to plug gaps would take away a bit of confidence that there was just a glimmer of hope we had something sorted behind the scenes. We'll see. Hopefully over the next few days.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted August 23, 2023 Report Share Posted August 23, 2023 24 minutes ago, Newty82 said: Oh it's happening to me/us again. That fade of hope into 'oh here we go again'. If we enter the final week of this window with no more confirmations, it'll fade that hope even more. Prices and deals tend to get tough to negotiate in the final week. I know the reality of our financial situation, but the way we shifted players out quite quickly made me think we had this sussed. To go into the final week still needing to plug gaps would take away a bit of confidence that there was just a glimmer of hope we had something sorted behind the scenes. We'll see. Hopefully over the next few days.... After the atmosphere of the first day, I'm pretty sure hope is sparse in the crowd. If Goodison turns that quickly I've got no hope for this season to be honest and we really will be opening Bramley Moore Dock in the Championship. Newty82 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DownUnderToff Posted August 23, 2023 Report Share Posted August 23, 2023 City have signed Doku, adding more competition for/ahead of Cole Palmer. Hopefully we're smart enough to be in for him, offer a season loan (with buy option) so that he doesn't feel put off by relegation. Wiggytop and Matt 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Formby Posted August 23, 2023 Report Share Posted August 23, 2023 2 hours ago, DownUnderToff said: City have signed Doku, adding more competition for/ahead of Cole Palmer. Hopefully we're smart enough to be in for him, offer a season loan (with buy option) so that he doesn't feel put off by relegation. Can we please Count Doku out of our plans! Shukes, Matt, London Blue and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boston Toffee Posted August 23, 2023 Report Share Posted August 23, 2023 Tick tock, tick tock Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dunlopp9987 Posted August 25, 2023 Report Share Posted August 25, 2023 Think we'll get either a striker or a winger in, and that'll be it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boston Toffee Posted August 25, 2023 Report Share Posted August 25, 2023 Wonder if we are looking at any more currently injured players like Harrison? Hurt a few more weeks then another month to be "Dyche fit"? Goodison Glory 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goodison Glory Posted August 25, 2023 Report Share Posted August 25, 2023 57 minutes ago, Boston Toffee said: Wonder if we are looking at any more currently injured players like Harrison? Hurt a few more weeks then another month to be "Dyche fit"? Dyche Fit - all joking aside I think he takes that too far and sometimes uses it as crutch. With the Chermiti kid...did he not say this week that he was getting mentally fit. Ffs Romey 1878, Boston Toffee and Matt 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harv Posted August 25, 2023 Report Share Posted August 25, 2023 He would need to get mentally fit after watching the game against Villa. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
London Blue Posted August 25, 2023 Report Share Posted August 25, 2023 2 hours ago, Harv said: He would need to get mentally fit after watching the game against Villa. I need to get mentally fit after watching the villa game. Matt, Gwlad, Goodison Glory and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Btay Posted August 25, 2023 Report Share Posted August 25, 2023 Whilst I never regarded Holgate a first team option this year, him moving on loan means we really need another center back. Between Brainthwaite, Godfrey & Keane we don't have anyone who can be regarded as a proven option to partner Tarks. Palfy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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