patto Posted August 9, 2023 Report Share Posted August 9, 2023 51 minutes ago, Goodison Glory said: We think we are a shambles (and we might very well be) but if we want a glass half full view then look at wolves. Unreal. We were there 2 years ago we have towed the line as much as possible as far as FFP and sustainability is concerned. next season new stadium new beginning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trigger Posted August 9, 2023 Report Share Posted August 9, 2023 2 minutes ago, patto said: We were there 2 years ago we have towed the line as much as possible as far as FFP and sustainability is concerned. next season new stadium new beginning. And if we can't get shot of them this window (which we won't) , Gomes wages at £120k a week and Holgate wages at £70k a week to free up to spend on MUCH better players! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goodison Glory Posted August 9, 2023 Report Share Posted August 9, 2023 28 minutes ago, patto said: We were there 2 years ago we have towed the line as much as possible as far as FFP and sustainability is concerned. next season new stadium new beginning. I don't recall 2 years ago (or any year for that matter) where we couldn't even sign FREE transfers. Matt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RuffRob Posted August 9, 2023 Report Share Posted August 9, 2023 15 minutes ago, patto said: We were there 2 years ago we have towed the line as much as possible as far as FFP and sustainability is concerned. next season new stadium new beginning. https://www.football365.com/news/transfers-premier-league-five-year-net-spend-man-utd-man-city FFP has been a major pain in the arse for us over the past few years. We are (had to) address it, and we have to hope that we have now well and truly leant our lesson. I think we are going to have to negotiate some murky waters this year (with a October hearing and still a still weakish squad), but I am hopeful there will be at least 4-5 weaker teams this year, with maybe three dropping away from the pack quite sharpish. I am hoping with our books getting in to a better order, a ever younger squad, the lessons learn and the new stadium revenues getting closer by the month now, we are maybe at a turning point where things are done properly at the club with a sound foundation. I see this article on net spends and it does make you wonder how many more teams are going to end up like ourselves, Leicester and Wolves over the coming years. Not all are going to be getting CL football on a regular basis!!! Once this season is out of the way there is a good chance that we could steadily rise while other fall away - the key is that a club HAS to be run in a sustainable manner, and try to take short cuts at your risk. The net spend on the top clubs does really show that unless you get very lucky, that top 5-6 is pretty much a closed shop to most team. London Blue 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
London Blue Posted August 9, 2023 Report Share Posted August 9, 2023 43 minutes ago, Trigger said: And if we can't get shot of them this window (which we won't) , Gomes wages at £120k a week and Holgate wages at £70k a week to free up to spend on MUCH better players! Both will go. Gomes did well on loan last season and Holgate will get a move too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wiggytop Posted August 9, 2023 Report Share Posted August 9, 2023 16 minutes ago, London Blue said: Both will go. Gomes did well on loan last season and Holgate will get a move too. I’m an ever the optimistic person, but even I wouldn’t predict this, as much as I hope it is true. KinL 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted August 9, 2023 Report Share Posted August 9, 2023 1 hour ago, RuffRob said: https://www.football365.com/news/transfers-premier-league-five-year-net-spend-man-utd-man-city FFP has been a major pain in the arse for us over the past few years. We are (had to) address it, and we have to hope that we have now well and truly leant our lesson. I think we are going to have to negotiate some murky waters this year (with a October hearing and still a still weakish squad), but I am hopeful there will be at least 4-5 weaker teams this year, with maybe three dropping away from the pack quite sharpish. I am hoping with our books getting in to a better order, a ever younger squad, the lessons learn and the new stadium revenues getting closer by the month now, we are maybe at a turning point where things are done properly at the club with a sound foundation. I see this article on net spends and it does make you wonder how many more teams are going to end up like ourselves, Leicester and Wolves over the coming years. Not all are going to be getting CL football on a regular basis!!! Once this season is out of the way there is a good chance that we could steadily rise while other fall away - the key is that a club HAS to be run in a sustainable manner, and try to take short cuts at your risk. The net spend on the top clubs does really show that unless you get very lucky, that top 5-6 is pretty much a closed shop to most team. 2 years of making profit is the right direction. How were in trouble when were not close to being the worst in that list! Newty82 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Romey 1878 Posted August 9, 2023 Popular Post Report Share Posted August 9, 2023 1 hour ago, RuffRob said: https://www.football365.com/news/transfers-premier-league-five-year-net-spend-man-utd-man-city FFP has been a major pain in the arse for us over the past few years. We are (had to) address it, and we have to hope that we have now well and truly leant our lesson. I think we are going to have to negotiate some murky waters this year (with a October hearing and still a still weakish squad), but I am hopeful there will be at least 4-5 weaker teams this year, with maybe three dropping away from the pack quite sharpish. I am hoping with our books getting in to a better order, a ever younger squad, the lessons learn and the new stadium revenues getting closer by the month now, we are maybe at a turning point where things are done properly at the club with a sound foundation. I see this article on net spends and it does make you wonder how many more teams are going to end up like ourselves, Leicester and Wolves over the coming years. Not all are going to be getting CL football on a regular basis!!! Once this season is out of the way there is a good chance that we could steadily rise while other fall away - the key is that a club HAS to be run in a sustainable manner, and try to take short cuts at your risk. The net spend on the top clubs does really show that unless you get very lucky, that top 5-6 is pretty much a closed shop to most team. FFP is doing exactly what it was brought in to do - stop anyone else disrupting the established teams at the top table. Bailey, chicagoblue, Quinn31 and 5 others 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dunlopp9987 Posted August 9, 2023 Report Share Posted August 9, 2023 19 minutes ago, Romey 1878 said: FFP is doing exactly what it was brought in to do - stop anyone else disrupting the established teams at the top table. Newcastle, Villa, Brighton? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted August 9, 2023 Report Share Posted August 9, 2023 3 minutes ago, dunlopp9987 said: Newcastle, Villa, Brighton? Pretty sure you can't include Newcastle yet and with the way they've thrown money around FFP will be after them too. The others haven't disrupted much yet. Romey 1878, StevO and MikeO 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cornish Steve Posted August 9, 2023 Report Share Posted August 9, 2023 2 hours ago, RuffRob said: https://www.football365.com/news/transfers-premier-league-five-year-net-spend-man-utd-man-city FFP has been a major pain in the arse for us over the past few years. We are (had to) address it, and we have to hope that we have now well and truly leant our lesson. I think we are going to have to negotiate some murky waters this year (with a October hearing and still a still weakish squad), but I am hopeful there will be at least 4-5 weaker teams this year, with maybe three dropping away from the pack quite sharpish. I am hoping with our books getting in to a better order, a ever younger squad, the lessons learn and the new stadium revenues getting closer by the month now, we are maybe at a turning point where things are done properly at the club with a sound foundation. I see this article on net spends and it does make you wonder how many more teams are going to end up like ourselves, Leicester and Wolves over the coming years. Not all are going to be getting CL football on a regular basis!!! Once this season is out of the way there is a good chance that we could steadily rise while other fall away - the key is that a club HAS to be run in a sustainable manner, and try to take short cuts at your risk. The net spend on the top clubs does really show that unless you get very lucky, that top 5-6 is pretty much a closed shop to most team. Luton just blow my mind, what they've achieved over the last several years. Everyone expects them to be crushed this year, but let's see whether they can pull another rabbit out of the hat. And their stadium... Matt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted August 9, 2023 Report Share Posted August 9, 2023 6 minutes ago, Cornish Steve said: Luton just blow my mind, what they've achieved over the last several years. Everyone expects them to be crushed this year, but let's see whether they can pull another rabbit out of the hat. And their stadium... Cornish Steve and Matt 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RuffRob Posted August 9, 2023 Report Share Posted August 9, 2023 2 hours ago, Cornish Steve said: Luton just blow my mind, what they've achieved over the last several years. Everyone expects them to be crushed this year, but let's see whether they can pull another rabbit out of the hat. And their stadium... and they have just signed Ross Barkley. Cornish Steve and Matt 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncanmckenzieismagic Posted August 9, 2023 Report Share Posted August 9, 2023 If transfer negotiations were decide on pens then this would be Everton Newty82, msloan78, Romey 1878 and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plaidharper Posted August 9, 2023 Report Share Posted August 9, 2023 48 minutes ago, duncanmckenzieismagic said: If transfer negotiations were decide on pens then this would be Everton cough cough... Korede Adedoyin began his career at Everton Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted August 9, 2023 Report Share Posted August 9, 2023 9 minutes ago, plaidharper said: cough cough... Korede Adedoyin began his career at Everton Now it makes sense. Newty82 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newty82 Posted August 9, 2023 Report Share Posted August 9, 2023 Not to get too excited but some of the players we're being linked with show some sign of hard lessons learnt...as in their age etc. Plus it feels like we are trying to plug that mahossive hole we've had for years...up top! Other than that, regards FFP, how we're still embroiled in it despite all our cutbacks just shows how much we fucked it up. But, also, as someone else has touched on, surely a load of other teams are going to get sucked into it? So, hopefully 15 teams will have spending embargoes by the time we move into the stadium and we'll be over ours, leaving us ready to rock and finish 15th StevO 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c1982 Posted August 9, 2023 Report Share Posted August 9, 2023 11 hours ago, Goodison Glory said: I don't recall 2 years ago (or any year for that matter) where we couldn't even sign FREE transfers. Wolves have paid £44m for Cuhna this summer, making his loan a permanent deal, and spent wildly in January to stay up… like us previously, they’ve made their own mess! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harv Posted August 10, 2023 Report Share Posted August 10, 2023 Not long now. Who do you think will get the first goal for us. The way things are it will be a penalty or a huge deflection. . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevO Posted August 10, 2023 Report Share Posted August 10, 2023 1 hour ago, Harv said: Not long now. Who do you think will get the first goal for us. The way things are it will be a penalty or a huge deflection. . Tarkowski Wall Writer 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted August 10, 2023 Report Share Posted August 10, 2023 Can't wait DCL to announce to our board that were fine up front Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Btay Posted August 10, 2023 Report Share Posted August 10, 2023 6 hours ago, Harv said: Not long now. Who do you think will get the first goal for us. The way things are it will be a penalty or a huge deflection. . Can’t rule out an own goal either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c1982 Posted August 17, 2023 Report Share Posted August 17, 2023 Palmer would be a very different but perfect alternative to Gnonto in my opinion… https://x.com/telefootball/status/1692175791143145909?s=46&t=hH9MW86Z7OdDqsQukrKMvA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dunlopp9987 Posted August 17, 2023 Report Share Posted August 17, 2023 Just now, c1982 said: Palmer would be a very different but perfect alternative to Gnonto in my opinion… https://x.com/telefootball/status/1692175791143145909?s=46&t=hH9MW86Z7OdDqsQukrKMvA Would absolutely love him here. Think he's gonna be a world beater Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted August 17, 2023 Report Share Posted August 17, 2023 14 minutes ago, c1982 said: Palmer would be a very different but perfect alternative to Gnonto in my opinion… https://x.com/telefootball/status/1692175791143145909?s=46&t=hH9MW86Z7OdDqsQukrKMvA Guardiola has said there's no possibility of a loan, he'll either stay there or be sold. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c1982 Posted August 17, 2023 Report Share Posted August 17, 2023 1 hour ago, Romey 1878 said: Guardiola has said there's no possibility of a loan, he'll either stay there or be sold. I think there are deals to be done with City with their younger players as long as there’s a good sell-on and/or buy back after x-many years. Matt and Romey 1878 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevO Posted August 17, 2023 Report Share Posted August 17, 2023 If he’s got any sense he’ll stay at City and let them develop him like they did with Foden. Matt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shukes Posted August 17, 2023 Report Share Posted August 17, 2023 Absolutely no way in the world we are getting Cole Palmer. StevO and Matt 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harv Posted August 17, 2023 Report Share Posted August 17, 2023 We appear to be linked to so many players at the moment it’s difficult to keep up. Not looking hopeful for a proven goal scorer to come in for Saturday as yet. Maybe the new lad will get a start. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wiggytop Posted August 18, 2023 Report Share Posted August 18, 2023 10 hours ago, Harv said: We appear to be linked to so many players at the moment it’s difficult to keep up. Not looking hopeful for a proven goal scorer to come in for Saturday as yet. Maybe the new lad will get a start. I’d rather we have a striker for Sunday TBH Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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