Bill Posted July 7, 2017 Report Share Posted July 7, 2017 Wouldn't be averse to lashing the Lukaku money at Southampton for Van Dyke, it would be an excellent window for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
London Blue Posted July 7, 2017 Report Share Posted July 7, 2017 We had - Howard, Hibbert and Ossie gone end of last season (I think), 5 outbound in the last 2 windows (I think), Barkley and Lukaku looking to go... We've got Coleman, Jags, Baines, Mirallas, Barry who are the only ones I'd consider core group, and 2 of them will be lucky to make the bench this season. Massive changes going on, which is positive but also potentially dangerous. Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying for a minute it will go wrong or that Koeman can't make it work. We've just seen so many times a club "being ambitious" by flashing cash and bringing in bodies can seriously destabilise the squad True, I think that's where you look at the personality of the players you are signing to make sure they fit into the squad. I think the players we have signed will fit into the mentality of the team Koeman is creating. Something to be carefully managed for sure. Matt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newty82 Posted July 7, 2017 Report Share Posted July 7, 2017 10 players in will be a massive mistake. Possibly. And generally I'd agree. But I think that's exactly why we are getting them in early. 4 joined before pre season started. Get them in early, bed them in, get the systems set up. The fact we bought 4 key players in early makes me feel a bit better about more joining. markjazzbassist and Lowensda 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lowensda Posted July 7, 2017 Author Report Share Posted July 7, 2017 Possibly. And generally I'd agree. But I think that's exactly why we are getting them in early. 4 joined before pre season started. Get them in early, bed them in, get the systems set up. The fact we bought 4 key players in early makes me feel a bit better about more joining. Also gives me confidence going into the start we've got. Hopefully the biggers teams buy late and the players (they buy) can't settle quickly. markjazzbassist 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newty82 Posted July 7, 2017 Report Share Posted July 7, 2017 Also gives me confidence going into the start we've got. Hopefully the biggers teams buy late and the players (they buy) can't settle quickly. Yeah. And in a round about way, we've got some serious games to play before the season starts, most likely against low rate teams, in the Europa Quals. That's more opportunity to get to know each other, the systems, temperaments etc before the real shit kicks off. markjazzbassist 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lowensda Posted July 7, 2017 Author Report Share Posted July 7, 2017 Yeah. And in a round about way, we've got some serious games to play before the season starts, most likely against low rate teams, in the Europa Quals. That's more opportunity to get to know each other, the systems, temperaments etc before the real shit kicks off. Someone as mobile as Sandro, will need people behind learning his running style and preferred channels of movement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevO Posted July 7, 2017 Report Share Posted July 7, 2017 It should be- Pickford 1 Keane 4 or 5 Klassen 7 Rooney 9 Sandro 10 Gueye 6 Bolasie 11 Schneiderlin 8 Come on Pad, was this a fishing expedition? haha Pickford should be number 1 Keane, 5 is already taken by Williams and he's going nowhere. For number 4, see Morgan. Klassen, number 10 is his preferred number. Number 7 is for a wide player or a striker who has delusions of himself. Rooney 9, yep. Sandro, 10 isn't so bad, but if Klassen got there first, he had 19 at Malaga. Gueye 6, Jags is going no where. Bolasie 11, Mirallas is going no where. Schneiderlin 8, 4 is his favourite number. Hopefully Barkley goes no where too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted July 7, 2017 Report Share Posted July 7, 2017 Just because players are going nowhere doesn't mean they won't change numbers, Steve. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Posted July 7, 2017 Report Share Posted July 7, 2017 Sorted for a goalie, plenty of class options in midfield, Rooney and Sandro up front, need another solid CH and another Top Striker, either one can be a massive statement by the club and I can see a top four finish. This has been a great window so far, with a couple more as mentioned above and I would be ecstatic. I love it because people are talking about EFC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete0 Posted July 7, 2017 Report Share Posted July 7, 2017 Jigsaw is looking a little odd on paper. Assuming we do get Rooney. Pickford Kenny/Holgate Keane Williams Baines Davies Schneiderlin Gana Klaassen Sandro Rooney A lot of change at the back, and unsure how the attackers will function together. Starting early in Europe will hopefully get them to gel together faster. Only one player from two seasons ago is a bit disappointing, don't want us to lose our identity like City did. Davies being one of our own helps, as would Rooney I guess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete0 Posted July 7, 2017 Report Share Posted July 7, 2017 Andrew Robertson would be a good fit and annoy LiverpoolThink he'd put Baines on the bench. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nyblue23 Posted July 7, 2017 Report Share Posted July 7, 2017 Jigsaw is looking a little odd on paper. Assuming we do get Rooney. Pickford Kenny/Holgate Keane Williams Baines Davies Schneiderlin Gana Klaassen Sandro Rooney A lot of change at the back, and unsure how the attackers will function together. Starting early in Europe will hopefully get them to gel together faster. Only one player from two seasons ago is a bit disappointing, don't want us to lose our identity like City did. Davies being one of our own helps, as would Rooney I guess. We weren't good enough two years ago. Who would you have liked to stay? We had a team of young prospects (Lukaku, Barkley, Geri, Stones) and aging veterans without much time left (Jags, Baines, Pienaar, Gibbo, Howard, Osman, Barry, etc.). The youngsters either weren't good enough or wanted to leave. The middlers (Besic, McCarthy, Naismith, Mirallas) have either been deemed not good enough or have been hampered by injuries. I think the problem is the way the team was built under Martinez's reign; not what we're doing now. I do believe it will be hard to adjust, but I'm not sure we had any other choice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete0 Posted July 7, 2017 Report Share Posted July 7, 2017 We weren't good enough two years ago. Who would you have liked to stay? We had a team of young prospects (Lukaku, Barkley, Geri, Stones) and aging veterans without much time left (Jags, Baines, Pienaar, Gibbo, Howard, Osman, Barry, etc.). The youngsters either weren't good enough or wanted to leave. The middlers (Besic, McCarthy, Naismith, Mirallas) have either been deemed not good enough or have been hampered by injuries. I think the problem is the way the team was built under Martinez's reign; not what we're doing now. I do believe it will be hard to adjust, but I'm not sure we had any other choice.I'd have had Joel, Deulofeu and Holgate as starters. McCarthy and Barry would both play over Gana for me as well. Build a team slowly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nyblue23 Posted July 8, 2017 Report Share Posted July 8, 2017 I'd have had Joel, Deulofeu and Holgate as starters. McCarthy and Barry would both play over Gana for me as well. Build a team slowly. Holgate likely will start. Deulofeu was not entirely our fault (although I have no illusions that Koeman liked him, but that decision was well taken out of our hands). Joel was solid but Pickford will be much better, and playing either McCarthy or Barry over Gana seems incredibly short-sighted given that Gana was by far our best defensive player last year. Again, I don't feel like this year's going to be easy with an almost entirely new squad, but we weren't left with a lot of options if we wanted to seriously improve. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paddock Posted July 8, 2017 Report Share Posted July 8, 2017 We need cover at both full backs. If not we should have kept Galloway- at least he can play there if we're snookered. As it stands we don't have anyone who can fill in for Baines. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palfy Posted July 8, 2017 Report Share Posted July 8, 2017 If we get Rooney and Giroud, the starting line-up when everyone is fit I think with be like this. PICKFORD COLEMAN......WILLIAMS...KEANE.......BAINES KLAASSEN....SCHNEIDERLIN/GANA SANDRO.......ROONEY.......MIRALLAS/BARKLEY GIROUD. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aidan Posted July 8, 2017 Report Share Posted July 8, 2017 The fact United have announced this makes me feel like Rooney is his replacement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newty82 Posted July 8, 2017 Report Share Posted July 8, 2017 The fact United have announced this makes me feel like Rooney is his replacement. Not his replacement. I very much doubt that. But most probably an incoming transfer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Makis Posted July 8, 2017 Report Share Posted July 8, 2017 What does a ManU announcement have to do with Everton's lineup? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newty82 Posted July 8, 2017 Report Share Posted July 8, 2017 What does a ManU announcement have to do with Everton's lineup? Rooney coming in...in the line up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevO Posted July 8, 2017 Report Share Posted July 8, 2017 Just because players are going nowhere doesn't mean they won't change numbers, Steve. Apart from Oviedo swapping with Barkley, I can't ever remember a player of ours with a 1-11 number getting swapped. I expect it with the keeper, but it very rarely happens. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Posted July 8, 2017 Report Share Posted July 8, 2017 (edited) Have just added sky sports package to my TV, expecting good times this coming season but still hoping we can bring in another statement signing, not bothered if it's a CH or a CF but either one and I think we are going to be well worth watching.⚽ PS ... Old age added to health problems don't allow me to enjoy going now. Edited July 8, 2017 by Bill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
London Blue Posted July 8, 2017 Report Share Posted July 8, 2017 Have just added sky sports package to my TV, expecting good times this coming season but still hoping we can bring in another statement signing, not bothered if it's a CH or a CF but either one and I think we are going to be well worth watching.⚽ PS ... Old age added to health problems don't allow me to enjoy going now. Well I hope you enjoy watching us in the comfort of your home, I only get up to Goodison 5 times a year so most of my watching of Everton is done at home. At least you wont have to queue for the toilets!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paddock Posted July 8, 2017 Report Share Posted July 8, 2017 The fact United have announced this makes me feel like Rooney is his replacement. How would that equate to that Aiden. United announcing it has no bearing to them who we replace him with- unless I'm missing something? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aidan Posted July 8, 2017 Report Share Posted July 8, 2017 How would that equate to that Aiden. United announcing it has no bearing to them who we replace him with- unless I'm missing something? I meant more on the side of us not bringing a replacement in before we confirm his sale to United Pad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barryj Posted July 8, 2017 Report Share Posted July 8, 2017 Well I hope you enjoy watching us in the comfort of your home, I only get up to Goodison 5 times a year so most of my watching of Everton is done at home. At least you wont have to queue for the toilets!! I'm the same as I live in Buckinghamshire but I expect getting tickets will be harder this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted July 8, 2017 Report Share Posted July 8, 2017 I'm the same as I live in Buckinghamshire but I expect getting tickets will be harder this year. Definitely getting membership this season, tickets available before general sale, no-brainer for £25. https://tickets.evertonfc.com/selection/membership?productId=101162224483 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paddock Posted July 8, 2017 Report Share Posted July 8, 2017 Definitely getting membership this season, tickets available before general sale, no-brainer for £25. https://tickets.evertonfc.com/selection/membership?productId=101162224483 You have to spend actual real money on them you know Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted July 8, 2017 Report Share Posted July 8, 2017 You have to spend actual real money on them you know What :major overreaction alert: . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoof_It_Nev Posted July 9, 2017 Report Share Posted July 9, 2017 If we're presumably switching to a Barcelona style front 3, do we need another out and out front man? I'm not so sure we're after one. Who do we think could play in a front 3 out of: Sandro Rooney Klaassen Mirallas Barkley Lookman DCL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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