markjazzbassist Posted August 9, 2016 Report Share Posted August 9, 2016 Would love to sell him, get 8-10m and sign Williams, kone, martins indi. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevO Posted August 9, 2016 Report Share Posted August 9, 2016 Wouldn't let him go. Too important to the squad. Matt and Lowensda 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve_E Posted August 9, 2016 Report Share Posted August 9, 2016 We'd be daft to let him go. He's only two years older than Distin was when we signed him. Quinn31 and Bailey 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Tiger Posted August 9, 2016 Report Share Posted August 9, 2016 Yes from me, then bring on martins indi. Real attachment to him but if moyes puts up a real offer it'd be hard to turn down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted August 9, 2016 Report Share Posted August 9, 2016 (edited) Yes from me, then bring on martins indi. Real attachment to him but if moyes puts up a real offer it'd be hard to turn down. If we needed the money, I'd agree. But, we don't need the cash and we do need some sense of continuity during all this change. Our current captain is vital to that, at least until next summer. Edited August 9, 2016 by Matt Quinn31 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevO Posted August 9, 2016 Report Share Posted August 9, 2016 (edited) If we needed the money, I'd agree. But, we don't need the cash and we do need some sense of continuity during all this change. Our current captain is vital to that, at least until next summer. Exactly, hes a very popular figure in the dressing room. Need to keep people around like that. See the video of him at half time at Wembley with Ross, that's why we need him. Edited August 9, 2016 by StevO Lowensda and Matt 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sibdane Posted August 9, 2016 Report Share Posted August 9, 2016 Wouldn't really want to sell him now -- I think he's still good in the blue shirt for at least one more year, albeit as a squad player if we get Williams or Kone in. Mirallas 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted August 9, 2016 Report Share Posted August 9, 2016 sometimes you need to make changes to freshen things up.... I'm not saying its right in the case of Jags but..... it may be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elston Gunnn Posted August 9, 2016 Report Share Posted August 9, 2016 Jagielka's in final year of contract, I think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted August 9, 2016 Report Share Posted August 9, 2016 I'd happily let him go. Steve_E 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted August 9, 2016 Report Share Posted August 9, 2016 http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-3731346/Sunderland-rebuffed-attempt-sign-Phil-Jagielka-Everton.html?ITO=1490&ns_mchannel=rss&ns_campaign=1490 rejected Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quinn31 Posted August 9, 2016 Report Share Posted August 9, 2016 Ship out the club captain during a summer of such great change even though he's still a capable defender? Nonsense. StevO, Matt and efc1111 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lowensda Posted August 9, 2016 Author Report Share Posted August 9, 2016 Glad it go rejected. Worth more as a person, than a player. Sibdane, Quinn31, StevO and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newty82 Posted August 9, 2016 Report Share Posted August 9, 2016 Wouldn't be keen to let him go. I think he still has a role to play for this club. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paddock Posted August 9, 2016 Report Share Posted August 9, 2016 I'll be amazed if we sell both our first choice centre halves this window Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smeghead1 Posted August 9, 2016 Report Share Posted August 9, 2016 I'll be amazed if we sell both our first choice centre halves this window Id agree with that. The problem with him being our first choice is he's never fit to play unfortunately. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paddock Posted August 9, 2016 Report Share Posted August 9, 2016 Id agree with that. The problem with him being our first choice is he's never fit to play unfortunately. Think that's a bit unfair that Smegs mate, grnted he had a few issues last season but I wouldn't call him injury prone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest rusty747 Posted August 9, 2016 Report Share Posted August 9, 2016 I love Jags but if we get both Williams and Kone I can see Jags getting splinters in his arse on the bench for much of the season. But that is a measure of the calibre of player we can now sign. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quinn31 Posted August 9, 2016 Report Share Posted August 9, 2016 Think he's meant to do another couple years at the club and make 20-30 appearances each year rather than start every week given his age and fitness. Still a leader and a great player on the pitch who has a role to play here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted August 9, 2016 Report Share Posted August 9, 2016 Think he's meant to do another couple years at the club and make 20-30 appearances each year rather than start every week given his age and fitness. Still a leader and a great player on the pitch who has a role to play here. that's fine with me, but i hate captains on the bench. complete waste of the armband, they need to be on the pitch. give it to barry if jags isn't starting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted August 9, 2016 Report Share Posted August 9, 2016 I wouldn't like to see us actively get rid of him but if someone put a decent offer on the table for him then I would seriously consider it. It would be a bit of an upheaval at this late stage but lets face it, this year is about getting our shit together and will we be looking to Jags to lead us for the two seasons after that? Probably not. markjazzbassist 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest rusty747 Posted August 9, 2016 Report Share Posted August 9, 2016 I wouldn't like to see us actively get rid of him but if someone put a decent offer on the table for him then I would seriously consider it. It would be a bit of an upheaval at this late stage but lets face it, this year is about getting our shit together and will we be looking to Jags to lead us for the two seasons after that? Probably not. I know what you mean but there are a lot of changes in personnel already and I think a degree of continuity is important. If we get Kone then I can only see Jags getting 15-20 games and maybe leaving at the end of this season. But for now, he has a role to play - on and off the pitch. efc1111 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Posted August 10, 2016 Report Share Posted August 10, 2016 Some sort of part exchange deal for Kone, I could put up with that. We have too many over 30s in defence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevO Posted August 10, 2016 Report Share Posted August 10, 2016 It's off the field I think we need him more than on it now. Vital to keeping spirits up in the team and for continuity. Matt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quinn31 Posted August 10, 2016 Report Share Posted August 10, 2016 that's fine with me, but i hate captains on the bench. complete waste of the armband, they need to be on the pitch. give it to barry if jags isn't starting. That's why you have a club captain, vice captain, 3rd captain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lowensda Posted August 11, 2016 Author Report Share Posted August 11, 2016 Koeman's just said he wants to keep him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest rusty747 Posted August 11, 2016 Report Share Posted August 11, 2016 Pleased to hear it but I can't see Jags getting too many starts if we sign Kone - unless we go with a back three. And even then I think it might be Kone Williams Mori. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted August 11, 2016 Report Share Posted August 11, 2016 here is what ron said “There is no way Jagielka will leave the club if you count our centre-backs.” Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC11 Posted August 11, 2016 Report Share Posted August 11, 2016 here is what ron said There is no way Jagielka will leave the club if you count our centre-backs. If he'd have left it as "there is no way Jagielka will leave the club" I'd presume he still wants him. To say "if you count our centre backs" - that indicates to me he'll only be cover this season and another centre back or two come in then he'd be surplus. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted August 11, 2016 Report Share Posted August 11, 2016 If he'd have left it as "there is no way Jagielka will leave the club" I'd presume he still wants him. To say "if you count our centre backs" - that indicates to me he'll only be cover this season and another centre back or two come in then he'd be surplus. i thought the same thing and almost typed it out but just left it. I think if Kone comes in and maybe Martins Indi or something Jags will go. But as is, he's here till then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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