Ross Barkley

[Shukes]

6 minutes ago, Romey 1878 said:

As if Moshiri didn't look enough of an idiot after that phone interview, these tweets now make him look an even bigger idiot. 

 

Do us a favour, Mosh? Stop talking to Jim fucking White. 

Oh no.

havent seen them, what's he said now?

[Romey 1878]

4 minutes ago, Shukes said:

Oh no.

havent seen them, what's he said now?

Sorry, I meant Ross' tweets about a medical not even happening!

[Peter H]

19 minutes ago, Romey 1878 said:

As if Moshiri didn't look enough of an idiot after that phone interview, these tweets now make him look an even bigger idiot. 

 

Do us a favour, Mosh? Stop talking to Jim fucking White. 

Dont know why he felt like he had to lie about this. Barkley was there to have the medical wasnt he? Why did Moshiri say that he had started it? The story was strange enough without the lie. (If it was a lie) 

[Bailey]

21 minutes ago, Romey 1878 said:

As if Moshiri didn't look enough of an idiot after that phone interview, these tweets now make him look an even bigger idiot. 

 

Do us a favour, Mosh? Stop talking to Jim fucking White. 

He is full of shit isn't he... and we all thought Bill was bad!

[Chach]

43 minutes ago, Comedybegs said:

It fairness why shouldn't he? You can't have it one way where it's OK for players like Niasse to rot in the reserves and then have other who don't get to choose where they want to spend their career.

Interestingly Dean Aston mentioned that it was probably Chelsea that tried to renegotiate on the deal given how long he will be out for. If Everton didn't budge which I doubt they did, I imagine all parties (bar Everton) agreed to wait until January. 

Don't come in here mate with your fancy non emotional posts, we're fixin for a lynchin!

[Peter H]

There are a lot of emotions flying around but thats what football is all about. 

[Shukes]

13 minutes ago, Romey 1878 said:

Sorry, I meant Ross' tweets about a medical not even happening!

Well didn't the Chelsea contact even say it hadnt happened? So the player and club says it did t happen, Our club hasn't mentioned it happened.... but somehow he's telling lies? 

Okyyyy!

[Shukes]

Sorry Rom, think I completely misread that haha.

[Romey 1878]

21 minutes ago, Shukes said:

Sorry Rom, think I completely misread that haha.

Looks that way!

[Matt]

33 minutes ago, Peter H said:

Dont know why he felt like he had to lie about this. Barkley was there to have the medical wasnt he? Why did Moshiri say that he had started it? The story was strange enough without the lie. (If it was a lie) 

Had nothing to do with deflection apparently

[StevO]

5 hours ago, markjazzbassist said:

But wouldn't be with his bestie delle.  He's only wanted to go to spurs, I think his agent made the Chelsea thing happen to push spurs to make a move.  Sounds like they did, and he listened.

I'd hardly be calling him bestie, they've been photographed with a few other England players a couple of times. 

Sounds like they did? How does it sound like they did? Maybe there is a quote from Ross or his agent that I've missed. 

[StevO]

I don't think Moshiri lied. He knows he's gone there for the medical and has heard he's pulled out, he probably just assumed he had the medical then changed his mind after. Moshiri never said he walked out of the medical, just said after it. And he used the words "we think" a few times in the whole thing. 

[Peter H]

3 hours ago, Matt said:

Had nothing to do with deflection apparently

Does not make sense. If it was an intentional lie it would only deflect in a negative sense. 

 

[Matt]

45 minutes ago, Peter H said:

Does not make sense. If it was an intentional lie it would only deflect in a negative sense. 

 

Didn't you see how many people took his word as gospel? Very clever and well played, if it was planned

[Paddock]

Ross has fucked us over big time- he now sits on our injury table getting paid by us whilst his agent engineers a more lucrative deal elsewhere. He could have signed the contract last year and still asked for a move- Rooney,Arteta and even Lukaku earned the club proper money when they went. Ross- the super blew fucked us over- dress it up however you want but when it's stripped down to the bare bones- that is what he has done.

nobody begrudges him a move away if that's what he really wants but to run your contract down is unforgivable.

[Paddock]

9 hours ago, Matt said:

Didn't you see how many people took his word as gospel? Very clever and well played, if it was planned

I don't think Moshiri lied at all- I doubt he gets involved once the transfer terms are done. The last he heard was probably that Barkley had accepted terms and was on his way for a medical so that is what he has assumed has happened.

It wasn't the best bit of pr theclub have ever done but again- people moan like fuck that the club always stay silent, they always keep us in the dark, never tell us fuck all then mozn like fuck when they come out in public and say something.

we can't have it both ways.

[Palfy]

I think Moshiri has lied about what actually happened, when he said Ross walked out half way through his medical, and all so said he wants time to look at his future in January.

To come out with statements like that you would have had to have spoken to the player or had it given to you on good authority, which is it, imo neither of them Moshiri has deliberately lied to  make Ross look like the villain in this process.

I think Moshiri is suffering with small man syndrome, he is so used to getting what ever he wants by just throwing money at it, that it's pissing him off that he can't buy Barkley.

[Paddock]

32 minutes ago, Palfy said:

I think Moshiri has lied about what actually happened, when he said Ross walked out half way through his medical, and all so said he wants time to look at his future in January.

To come out with statements like that you would have had to have spoken to the player or had it given to you on good authority, which is it, imo neither of them Moshiri has deliberately lied to  make Ross look like the villain in this process.

I think Moshiri is suffering with small man syndrome, he is so used to getting what ever he wants by just throwing money at it, that it's pissing him off that he can't buy Barkley.

Barkley has posted himself he wants to reconsider in January so I'm not sure how you can say he's lying on that- The medical part was originally Sky saying he'd walked out not Moshiri.

small man syndrome? The fella is a multi billionaire- I highly doubt he's arsed enough about Ross Barkley to come on TV and lie about it. 

[Shukes]

It could be that Ross is simply considering his options.

he might not want to go to Chelsea.

probablt the most important move of his Career and he wants to make it the right one.

how dare he haha!

[Paddock]

25 minutes ago, Shukes said:

It could be that Ross is simply considering his options.

he might not want to go to Chelsea.

probablt the most important move of his Career and he wants to make it the right one.

how dare he haha!

Of course it is- but he still could have signed the contract and got a move. He's done nothing but think of himself and not given asingle thought to the club he supports and who nurtured him from a child, a badly broken leg and gave him the chance to become who he is. Even Artwta signed a new deal so the club who gave him a chance could get a fee- a way of repaying them for the loyalty they showed in him. Barkley is an Svertonian and he has royally fucked the club over by running his contract down. Nobody begrudges him a move and of course he's allowed to go where he wants, none of that's an issue but running his contract down to get more money is a shithouse trick, he'll get enough regardless.

[Bill]

Last year i got a lot of flak off here for saying that we should have sold him to get a decent fee for him,  people argued and told me I was wrong,  I think the way this has turned out that maybe I was right.

He won't stay now and he will walk away for nothing.  We've lost a lot of money on this.

[Paddock]

I honestly fail to see how anyone can not think Barkley hasn't shit on us from a great height. I'm not talking about him wanting a move, I don't mean he's a traitor but as his boyhood club knowing he could get them a good fee, knowing he could have signed the contract and still got a move.

 

imagine if we'd of dropped him when he broke his leg so badly, imagine if the club hadn't spent tens of thousands on top specialists giving him the best treatment available, imagine if we hadn't believed in his ability- where would he be? 

[Shukes]

O feel you have a deep hatred for the lad and can't see through your red mist mate.

you honestly think that Barkley is thinking like that? Fair enough.

i just see a young lad that isn't happy where he is. He wants to make the right decision and needs help. He has watched the Lukaku saga unfold and saw how much bad blood there is after Lukaku signed a contract and then still harped on about leaving for a bigger club.

as a blues fan he probably didn't want that so has done what he thought was best, not blarted on about it, not handed in a transfer request and stuck to his gins and not signed a contract.

i mean could t he have signed a contract and took more money off us until he leaves? After all he is greedy remember.

but for some reason fans think that these guys are all businessmen and fail to see that sone are just lads that want to play football.

[barryj]

20 minutes ago, Shukes said:

O feel you have a deep hatred for the lad and can't see through your red mist mate.

you honestly think that Barkley is thinking like that? Fair enough.

i just see a young lad that isn't happy where he is. He wants to make the right decision and needs help. He has watched the Lukaku saga unfold and saw how much bad blood there is after Lukaku signed a contract and then still harped on about leaving for a bigger club.

as a blues fan he probably didn't want that so has done what he thought was best, not blarted on about it, not handed in a transfer request and stuck to his gins and not signed a contract.

i mean could t he have signed a contract and took more money off us until he leaves? After all he is greedy remember.

but for some reason fans think that these guys are all businessmen and fail to see that sone are just lads that want to play football.

Learning from Rooney! 

[Paddock]

I have no hatred for him - I don't know him so how can I hate him. I hate the way he has shit on the club but if he came out in 4 weeks time and said he wanted to stay and sign a new deal I'd be delighted how would him signing a contract made him more money? He stands to earn a lot more than a wage rise from us in signing on fees with no transfer fee involved. . Lukaku didn't sign a new contract - he signed a 5 year deal and gave us 3 of that- we always knew we were a stepping stone and he could have ran his contract down and went for mega money still at the age of 25 but he chose to go because he was ambitious and regardless of him opening his mouth we treblled our money on him so the club came out with something . As I'vee said I have no problem with Barkley wanting to go but to run his contract down is a snide move that is motivated by money- he will get a much bigger signing on fee (as will his agent) and probably better bonuses etc,if you genuinely think it's not about that then that's obviously your choice.

 

 

[Shukes]

Really?

signing a new contract wouldn't give him more wages? Come on mate.

and Lukaku sung away pretty much his whole contract.

and it's easy to hate. You really sound like you have a massive grudge with him. I could be wrong.

[Shukes]

1 hour ago, barryj said:

Learning from Rooney! 

Haha I always said Rooney would have an influence on him.

[rubecula]

I like the lad but I think he has shit in his own bed now and has to lie in it.

[Bailey]

Again I don't get this shit on the club mentality, because if Barkley wasn't good enough and they wanted rid, they would be the first to push him out of the door. Like I said before, how can people be happy with the Niasse situation and then have a pop at Barkley. 

Footballers earn the right to do exactly what they like because they sign a contract for x amount of years for x amount for money. It's a short but very lucrative career and they get to decide their future. 

If we were broke, like we were back in the Rooney days, then yeh you could argue that Ross could have thought about trying to help his local club out, but if it were that situation then the club would probably be trying to force him out the door anyway. We don't need the money, what we actually need is someone of Ross' ability on the pitch to help us win points. If he stays until next summer and gives his all then that's great, and I will wish him all the best.

Going back to Moshiri, the guy clearly likes bending the truth. He did it last summer and he has done it this summer. They aren't massive lies, it's almost silly 'my dad is bigger than your dad' mentality. 

[Paddock]

2 hours ago, Shukes said:

Really?

signing a new contract wouldn't give him more wages? Come on mate.

and Lukaku sung away pretty much his whole contract.

and it's easy to hate. You really sound like you have a massive grudge with him. I could be wrong.

His wage increase over a year (or until he was sold) would be nowhere near as much as the signing on fee he will receive if the club he goes to don't have to pay a fee!!

i've already said I don't hate him I hate the fact he's shit on us, I'm not sure why you're questioning that when I've told you my feelings. If I hated him I'd just say I hated him- I hate the cunts who blow people up for religeon, I don't hate Ross Barkley but that doesn't mean I don't think he's a cunt also- just a different type of cunt.