Vranny Posted February 13, 2018 Report Share Posted February 13, 2018 3 hours ago, Romey 1878 said: http://www.football365.com/news/spurs-squad-cost-less-than-everton-to-create If that’s correct (or close enough to) that’s really damning of Walsh’s signings and our last few managers. Pretty embarrassing that the 11th most expensive team in Europe are currently a shite, mid-table club. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted February 13, 2018 Report Share Posted February 13, 2018 9 minutes ago, Vranny said: If that’s correct (or close enough to) that’s really damning of Walsh’s signings and our last few managers. Pretty embarrassing that the 11th most expensive team in Europe are currently a shite, mid-table club. It's misleading in my opinion. Spurs have been building for a lot longer than we have, and in the meantime the transfer market has exploded (where £5m players 3-5 years ago are suddenly £15-20m) MikeO, Bailey, Quinn31 and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paddock Posted February 13, 2018 Report Share Posted February 13, 2018 22 minutes ago, Matt said: It's misleading in my opinion. Spurs have been building for a lot longer than we have, and in the meantime the transfer market has exploded (where £5m players 3-5 years ago are suddenly £15-20m) Spot on this. Another example of stats and figures being twisted to suit an agenda. MikeO 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted February 14, 2018 Report Share Posted February 14, 2018 https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/everton-manager-sam-allardyce-plots-14285076 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted February 15, 2018 Report Share Posted February 15, 2018 http://www.evertonfc.com/news/2018/02/14/watson-i-loved-every-minute-at-magnificent-everton Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete0 Posted February 15, 2018 Report Share Posted February 15, 2018 The defence has been utterly rubbish this season. The average goals conceded per match is 46 goals/26 games = 1.77 Looking at the effect when certain players don't participate* Goal conceded per game without: Defence Jagielka = 1.15 Keane = 1.25 Cuco = 2 Williams = 2.4 Midfield Gana = 1 Schneiderlin = 2 Rooney = 2.2 Davies = 2. 75 *subs of less than 10 minutes I've counted as not playing. The sample size isn'tttt big with Gana only missing 3 and Schneiderlin 6 but it's still food for thought. Only cleansheet we have against a top half club is when Gana missed the Chelsea one at home. Thought I'd highlight Martina for being defensively missed as well whilst I was at it. Too many people going with the herd lately. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted February 15, 2018 Report Share Posted February 15, 2018 everton is making it hard for me to watch them recently Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paddock Posted February 15, 2018 Report Share Posted February 15, 2018 2 hours ago, pete0 said: The defence has been utterly rubbish this season. The average goals conceded per match is 46 goals/26 games = 1.77 Looking at the effect when certain players don't participate* Goal conceded per game without: Defence Jagielka = 1.15 Keane = 1.25 Cuco = 2 Williams = 2.4 Midfield Gana = 1 Schneiderlin = 2 Rooney = 2.2 Davies = 2. 75 *subs of less than 10 minutes I've counted as not playing. The sample size isn'ttttt big with Gana only missing 3 and Schneiderlin 6 but it's still food for thought. Only cleansheet we have against a top half club is when Gana missed the Chelsea one at home. Thought I'd highlight Martina for being defensively missed as well whilst I was at it. Too many people going with the herd lately. It also depends on the opposition if Gana for example missed Huddersfield, Newcastle and Swansea but played against all the top 6 and another player missed all the top 6 but played against the lower team it’s hardly accurate is it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted February 15, 2018 Report Share Posted February 15, 2018 25 minutes ago, Paddock said: It also depends on the opposition if Gana for example missed Huddersfield, Newcastle and Swansea but played against all the top 6 and another player missed all the top 6 but played against the lower team it’s hardly accurate is it. Gana's not started v ManU at home and West Brom home and away; make of that what you like. Can we also reverse the stat to show we've only scored a third of a goal a game when he's not started but 1.2 when he has? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete0 Posted February 15, 2018 Report Share Posted February 15, 2018 1 hour ago, Paddock said: It also depends on the opposition if Gana for example missed Huddersfield, Newcastle and Swansea but played against all the top 6 and another player missed all the top 6 but played against the lower team it’s hardly accurate is it. I mentioned the only cleansheet against top half was without him. Sample size is small other than that there's no bias. 1 hour ago, MikeO said: Gana's not started v ManU at home and West Brom home and away; make of that what you like. Can we also reverse the stat to show we've only scored a third of a goal a game when he's not started but 1.2 when he has? You could but I did prelude the defence has been atrocious. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paddock Posted February 15, 2018 Report Share Posted February 15, 2018 14 minutes ago, pete0 said: I mentioned the only cleansheet against top half was without him. Sample size is small other than that there's no bias. My point still remains the same- not just for Gana but any player for any team outside the top 6 playing against the top 6. Stats will almost always been worse playing better opposition. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted February 15, 2018 Report Share Posted February 15, 2018 20 minutes ago, pete0 said: I mentioned the only cleansheet against top half was without him. Except he started that game (v Chelsea) and although he was subbed played more than half of it and was our third change, also was only taken off because he was injured; so that statement is complete fantasy. BBC live text... Substitution Posted at51' Substitution, Everton. Beni Baningime replaces Idrissa Gueye because of an injury. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete0 Posted February 15, 2018 Report Share Posted February 15, 2018 22 minutes ago, MikeO said: Except he started that game (v Chelsea) and although he was subbed played more than half of it and was our third change, also was only taken off because he was injured; so that statement is complete fantasy. BBC live text... Substitution Posted at51' Substitution, Everton. Beni Baningime replaces Idrissa Gueye because of an injury. Ah my mistake. I've read the wrong game, was WBA next to it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quinn31 Posted February 16, 2018 Report Share Posted February 16, 2018 https://www.si.com/soccer/2018/02/16/german-report-claims-everton-were-snubbed-thomas-tuchel-hiring-sam-allardyce Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cornish Steve Posted February 18, 2018 Report Share Posted February 18, 2018 On 2/16/2018 at 11:38, Quinn31 said: https://www.si.com/soccer/2018/02/16/german-report-claims-everton-were-snubbed-thomas-tuchel-hiring-sam-allardyce Then I'm glad he turned us down. We don't need a manager with that kind of attitude. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavisJD Posted February 19, 2018 Report Share Posted February 19, 2018 Current state of affairs.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted February 19, 2018 Report Share Posted February 19, 2018 1 hour ago, DavisJD said: Current state of affairs.... Good for them, am I supposed to give a shit? Romey 1878 and Matt 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted February 22, 2018 Report Share Posted February 22, 2018 markjazzbassist, MikeO and pete0 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted February 24, 2018 Report Share Posted February 24, 2018 Trip to Dubai money well spent then. Bailey 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Louis Posted February 24, 2018 Report Share Posted February 24, 2018 Hush, Martin! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Lowensda Posted February 24, 2018 Popular Post Report Share Posted February 24, 2018 Club is a complete shithouse on the field and in the player/staff recruitment. Going to take years of accepting no return on any of that investment Mosh ', made some fucking horrendous errors in Walsh and last 2 years player recruitment. Feel for him actually. Best intentions, massively mis-advised. markjazzbassist, Romey 1878, Btay and 3 others 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted February 24, 2018 Report Share Posted February 24, 2018 1 hour ago, Louis said: Hush, Martin! What point is he trying to make and why reveal the "revelation" now? I don't understand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted February 25, 2018 Report Share Posted February 25, 2018 13 hours ago, Lowensda said: Club is a complete shithouse on the field and in the player/staff recruitment. Going to take years of accepting no return on any of that investment Mosh ', made some fucking horrendous errors in Walsh and last 2 years player recruitment. Feel for him actually. Best intentions, massively mis-advised. It needs to start with getting rid of the cunt and his mate, Walsh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lowensda Posted February 25, 2018 Report Share Posted February 25, 2018 44 minutes ago, Romey 1878 said: It needs to start with getting rid of the cunt and his mate, Walsh. Which one? I know you're not a Mosh fan but he has done what he promised. Unfortunately been misinformed and guided, which has led to him spinning money and recruiting the wrong people. Just a thought, when the club were toying with creating a role for a technical Director of football, why did they not just get one in who's been around the block and has a good level of experience in the position, rather than risking a new role to someone unfamiliar in that style of role? That's still one thing that does baffle me and if that is on Mosh, then he deserves no sympathy on the matter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted February 25, 2018 Report Share Posted February 25, 2018 24 minutes ago, Lowensda said: Which one? I know you're not a Mosh fan but he has done what he promised. Unfortunately been misinformed and guided, which has led to him spinning money and recruiting the wrong people. Just a thought, when the club were toying with creating a role for a technical Director of football, why did they not just get one in who's been around the block and has a good level of experience in the position, rather than risking a new role to someone unfamiliar in that style of role? That's still one thing that does baffle me and if that is on Mosh, then he deserves no sympathy on the matter. The gravy guzzler. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted February 25, 2018 Report Share Posted February 25, 2018 16 hours ago, Lowensda said: Club is a complete shithouse on the field and in the player/staff recruitment. Going to take years of accepting no return on any of that investment Mosh ', made some fucking horrendous errors in Walsh and last 2 years player recruitment. Feel for him actually. Best intentions, massively mis-advised. I don't feel for him at all. If he wants to pay for inadequate advisors then that's his fault. He expected to splash the cash and for things to come easy. All the reports were that when Fonseca and Silva weren' available, Moshiri wanted Allardyce. Blame Walsh all you like but he is the one giving him the contract, for all he might have recommended him. markjazzbassist and London Blue 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncanmckenzieismagic Posted February 26, 2018 Report Share Posted February 26, 2018 https://www.theguardian.com/football/2018/feb/26/farhad-moshiri-everton-unhappy-fans-sam-allardyce markjazzbassist and Matt 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sibdane Posted February 27, 2018 Report Share Posted February 27, 2018 PL form since January 1st. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted February 27, 2018 Report Share Posted February 27, 2018 33 minutes ago, tonkaroost said: PL form since January 1st. Surprised we're that high. There must be some really shit teams around (thankfully). Matt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted February 28, 2018 Report Share Posted February 28, 2018 https://www.premierleague.com/news/626258 Matt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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