Pearso Posted November 6, 2013 Report Share Posted November 6, 2013 I've got to say I've been in the give-him-time camp in terms of my opinion of his time with us, but that time is finite and a season ending knee injury is time he's burning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted November 6, 2013 Report Share Posted November 6, 2013 I'm as disappointed as the rest of you - I really looked forward to seeing him play as I like his attributes. Sibdane 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thoward18 Posted November 6, 2013 Report Share Posted November 6, 2013 I'm as disappointed as the rest of you - I really looked forward to seeing him play as I like his attributes. I don't really know what you want from us. During the short time he was available he did absolutely nothing to give any encouragement. Even when Jelavic is depressed and lacking confidence he still puts together a few nice runs or makes some really good individual efforts. Kone did nothing except miss a few gifted opportunities. By the time he is healthy again he's going to be halfway to 31. It's not like this is some 22 year old project. I saw a lot of people shit on the Barry addition and even a few with McCarthy and they've received nothing but compliments since. I don't think people have a vendetta against Kone. It just hasn't worked out. At this point I'm basically counting him as a sunken cost. Hopefully he can get back into playing shape and contribute some goals next season in rotation duty and cup ties, but I see that as best case scenario and I'm certainly not going to hold my breath on it. Martinez is going to have to seek a better, more secure option at striker during the summer. Romey 1878 and Lowensda 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lowensda Posted November 6, 2013 Report Share Posted November 6, 2013 I don't really know what you want from us. During the short time he was available he did absolutely nothing to give any encouragement. Even when Jelavic is depressed and lacking confidence he still puts together a few nice runs or makes some really good individual efforts. Kone did nothing except miss a few gifted opportunities. By the time he is healthy again he's going to be halfway to 31. It's not like this is some 22 year old project. I saw a lot of people shit on the Barry addition and even a few with McCarthy and they've received nothing but compliments since. I don't think people have a vendetta against Kone. It just hasn't worked out. At this point I'm basically counting him as a sunken cost. Hopefully he can get back into playing shape and contribute some goals next season in rotation duty and cup ties, but I see that as best case scenario and I'm certainly not going to hold my breath on it. Martinez is going to have to seek a better, more secure option at striker during the summer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cornish Steve Posted November 6, 2013 Report Share Posted November 6, 2013 (edited) Don't understand the negativity here. We signed a decent forward for the same money we received for Vic. Avoiding injury due to an over extention of the knee isn't an attribute to be criticised - like the Gibson injury, a knee injury is a freak occurance and can happen to anyone. We have barely seen him due to getting Lukaku and despite the one game where he missed a few he has been bright and direct. Good player, don't write him off. I don't understand either. Kone is a good player, and he has a track record of scoring goals. It takes time to blend with a new team, and he's had few opportunities to play. Even when he did, his stats were better than most other players, no matter what the comments here. He may have missed a couple of good chances, but he created those chances in the first place. I wouldn't wish injury on anyone and am disappointed at those who are laughing at him for missing the season. Very poor form, I must say. Aroune Kone: I for one wish you a successful operation and speedy recovery. Edited November 6, 2013 by Cornish Steve barryj and Hafnia 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted November 6, 2013 Report Share Posted November 6, 2013 this one hurts, i hope he recovers well and will shine next year for us. Quinn31 and Sibdane 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted November 6, 2013 Report Share Posted November 6, 2013 The necessary surgery for his knee will see him miss the remainder of the season. http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/24831486 http://www.evertonfc.com/news/archive/2013/11/06/kone-faces-long-spell-out just to confirm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davies Posted November 6, 2013 Report Share Posted November 6, 2013 this has left us quite short at up top now suspect he will try and get someone in in the jan window hopefully defoe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted November 6, 2013 Report Share Posted November 6, 2013 this has left us quite short at up top now suspect he will try and get someone in in the jan window hopefully defoe not a bad shout, but he is even older than Kone. If we could get him on a cheap loan for the rest of the season, I'd be ok with that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meanbone Posted November 6, 2013 Report Share Posted November 6, 2013 I feel bad for him. It's a bit strange that people judge him though he hasn't even played a single full match for us. Those misses he made can sometimes happen to best strikers in the game. I personally rate him higher than Jelavic even though I hope that i'm proven wrong and Jelavic starts to score. I just hope that Lukaku stays fit or there may be some problems... Steve_E and Quinn31 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quinn31 Posted November 6, 2013 Report Share Posted November 6, 2013 I was hoping that we'd see him over Jelavic, and that he might get a game or two if big Rom needed a rest. I'm very disappointed to say the least. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted November 6, 2013 Report Share Posted November 6, 2013 Despite Kones misses he has still contributed more than Jelavic has this season. He may have had knee injuries in the past but they clearly didnt stop him passing his medical and he had at least a couple of injury free years before this one struck. I think I remember Martinez saying that Kone was actually 'younger' because of these previous injuries and that it would allow him to play for longer into his career. Lets just see if all of you that appear happy by this news are still as happy when Jelavic is being as effective as a lamppost. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted November 6, 2013 Report Share Posted November 6, 2013 I'm not sure how Jelavic's performances will make any difference whatsoever? Jelavic can look like a lamppost week in, week out for all I care, it's not going to make me start thinking "do you know what, I'd much rather Kone was here hitting the post, wasting chances. They weren't actually as embarrassing as they appeared to be now I've seen Jelavic." Do you know why that is? Because only Kone can make me change my opinion of him, not another player. Those misses and general nothingness that he brought to our game don't change just because another player is playing poorly too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted November 6, 2013 Report Share Posted November 6, 2013 What I'm much more likely to think if Jelavic becomes our only other option is "I wish Martinez hadn't wasted £6million on Kone." Either spent it more wisely (seeing as it's clear that's all we had before selling) or saved it and bloody kept Anichebe! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted November 6, 2013 Report Share Posted November 6, 2013 But we have only seen Kone in glimpses and yet he is being written off as not good enough. Despite not being able to put one in the back of the net, he has brought others into play well and he has got himself on the end of these chances in the very little time we have seen him play. He isnt a world beater but some of the comments on here are pathetic, especially for a player with his record in various leagues. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted November 6, 2013 Report Share Posted November 6, 2013 I don't know about any one else but I didn't think he was a good signing before it happened, and the brief glimpse we've had of him playing for us has only reinforced what I already thought about him. Matt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncanmckenzieismagic Posted November 6, 2013 Report Share Posted November 6, 2013 I don't know about any one else but I didn't think he was a good signing before it happened, and the brief glimpse we've had of him playing for us has only reinforced what I already thought about him. This If Roberto has kept the receipt I would gladly have the £6M back Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 6, 2013 Report Share Posted November 6, 2013 I think Roberto probably underestimated the talent in our squad at first and the kone signing is an example of this. I think the news of kone highlights the fact that we need to spend heavily over the next twelve months on two strikers and that's why I think it's obvious we will sell baines to create the funds. Hopefully long will be on the bench soon if he is good enough but when lukaku goes we need either good scouting to get another loan or very good scouting to get us permanent signings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zoo Posted November 6, 2013 Report Share Posted November 6, 2013 Laughable to write him off now, he will come good he just needs time. It's not an ideal scenario but is it Kone's fault? Not really. Give him time for fucks sake, he has looked very bright when playing and had he scored against Hull we'd probably have people defending him. this has left us quite short at up top now suspect he will try and get someone in in the jan window hopefully defoe Please. Fucking. God. No. :major overreaction alert: :major overreaction alert: :major overreaction alert: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest blueboy122 Posted November 6, 2013 Report Share Posted November 6, 2013 I would take Defoe all day long by the way. What a great goal scorer he is. Can you imagine how many he would score if he played for a Chelsea or an Arsenal, United. Even Liverpool Christ he would score some goals for them he's so clinical. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest blueboy122 Posted November 6, 2013 Report Share Posted November 6, 2013 Laughable to write him off now, he will come good he just needs time. It's not an ideal scenario but is it Kone's fault? Not really. Give him time for fucks sake, he has looked very bright when playing and had he scored against Hull we'd probably have people defending him. Please. Fucking. God. No. :major overreaction alert: :major overreaction alert: :major overreaction alert: No way! I think he is class. Such a good goal scorer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted November 6, 2013 Report Share Posted November 6, 2013 Based on what I have seen of Kone £6m was absolutely fine. He can score goals, he runs at defenders, he can hold the ball up - he is a good footballer! Now he's injured it's "what a waste of money" - you could sign messi or ronaldo and that happens. The lad had observed Ramadan, was totally off the pace like most who fast, and then after jelavic had his chance had 1 or 2 games - that's it! If you based your total judgement of RVP on two of his games this season you would say he's shite. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcopaulo Posted November 6, 2013 Report Share Posted November 6, 2013 Laughable to write him off now, he will come good he just needs time. It's not an ideal scenario but is it Kone's fault? Not really. Give him time for fucks sake, he has looked very bright when playing and had he scored against Hull we'd probably have people defending him. Please. Fucking. God. No. :major overreaction alert: :major overreaction alert: :major overreaction alert: you think kone is better than defoe? fuck me as for this..yes the injury could've happened to anyone..can't blame him for that..but he's done nothing for us since he came in..granted it's been little time he's had on the pitch but he doesn't for me bring anything that anichebe didn't already have..except 7 years Lowensda and Matt 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted November 7, 2013 Report Share Posted November 7, 2013 He is a FAR better footballer than Anichebe but I would much rather have kept him that Jela tbh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted November 7, 2013 Report Share Posted November 7, 2013 I shall end by saying that I hope during his recovery he doesn't miss any hospital appointments and end up hitting the bar instead. Matt and Lowensda 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Memmaclub Posted November 7, 2013 Report Share Posted November 7, 2013 I agree with post that says he was a bad idea before he signed. So of the 4 Wigan players we signed we have only had real value out of 1. Which is the one we all wanted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted November 7, 2013 Report Share Posted November 7, 2013 Steven Naismith scores a hat trick in his first game for us - hence a load of "great, what a player!" Kone has limited appearances and misses a sitter and hits a post hence "he's useless" Has he actually had 90 minutes prem time in total??? From what i've seen RVP, Aguero, Rooney, etc have gone more than 90 minutes without scoring. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted November 7, 2013 Report Share Posted November 7, 2013 I shall end by saying that I hope during his recovery he doesn't miss any hospital appointments and end up hitting the bar instead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted November 7, 2013 Report Share Posted November 7, 2013 No worse than some of the puns you throw out . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted November 7, 2013 Report Share Posted November 7, 2013 No worse than some of the puns you throw out . It was an ironic expression of admiration . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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