Matt Posted January 30, 2019 Report Share Posted January 30, 2019 1 hour ago, nyblue23 said: To be fair, Richarlison actually played defense yesterday. Still don’t feel good about it, but he did put in quite the display against Wolves in the first match of the season on both sides of the ball. First couple of months they all defended from the front, but we’ve seen very little of that for a while. Romey 1878, StevO and nyblue23 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paddock Posted January 30, 2019 Report Share Posted January 30, 2019 8 hours ago, Romey 1878 said: It will be one. I thought it was 3 for a goal scoaring opportunity. Meh what do I know Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted April 26, 2019 Report Share Posted April 26, 2019 He's going to be offered a one year deal, apparently. Not a surprise. Matt and markjazzbassist 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aidan Posted April 26, 2019 Report Share Posted April 26, 2019 2 hours ago, Romey 1878 said: He's going to be offered a one year deal, apparently. Not a surprise. Happy with that. Nobody in the squad can cover Digne anyway unless we put Kenny there, and I'm not a big fan of playing inverted fullbacks. Baines is well past his prime, but it gives us a window to assess the youth and look at targets to bring in for Digne's cover. I'd say Baines is still better than most LB's starting in teams below us in the PL - and he's certainly better than 90% of the cover they have for LB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted April 26, 2019 Report Share Posted April 26, 2019 Smart move. We have to shift the dead wood this summer, keep him a year and then next summer get his young replacement to learn from Digne. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted April 26, 2019 Report Share Posted April 26, 2019 3 hours ago, Romey 1878 said: He's going to be offered a one year deal, apparently. Not a surprise. Good. Jags next I hope. StevO 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finn balor Posted April 26, 2019 Report Share Posted April 26, 2019 Maybe jags will get a good offer from sheff United? Be a role model for the players Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gwlad Posted April 26, 2019 Report Share Posted April 26, 2019 48 minutes ago, Finn balor said: Maybe jags will get a good offer from sheff United? Be a role model for the players Good shout, if they go up. He's been a good servant and captain here but Sheff Utd would be good end to his career. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevO Posted April 26, 2019 Report Share Posted April 26, 2019 I’d much rather Jags be a good influence to us. MikeO, badaids and Matt 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gwlad Posted April 26, 2019 Report Share Posted April 26, 2019 I've been sentimental over many players during my many years as a blue but we have to move on. If he can play rather than sit on our bench surely we owe him that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevO Posted April 27, 2019 Report Share Posted April 27, 2019 1 hour ago, Gwlad all over said: I've been sentimental over many players during my many years as a blue but we have to move on. If he can play rather than sit on our bench surely we owe him that? It’s not sentimental, it’s influential. Massive difference. If either of them want to go then fair enough, but I doubt they do. Matt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shukes Posted April 27, 2019 Report Share Posted April 27, 2019 10 hours ago, Gwlad all over said: I've been sentimental over many players during my many years as a blue but we have to move on. If he can play rather than sit on our bench surely we owe him that? I think at their age, they can’t play week in week out, so are happy to stay at a club where they can influence and help others. StevO 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elston Gunnn Posted May 6, 2019 Report Share Posted May 6, 2019 Although some papers reported about 10 days ago that Silva was “ready” to extend Baines’s contract for a year, we’ve seen no announcement yet from the club to confirm that. And now the Guardian’s Everton scribe uses the phrase “If Baines has a future” at Everton..... Just waiting for the season to end, I guess. Baines can still play EPL-level football, and finding an alternate LB replacement surely can’t be a priority this summer. https://www.theguardian.com/football/2019/may/06/premier-league-talking-points-weekend-action Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aidan Posted May 6, 2019 Report Share Posted May 6, 2019 26 minutes ago, Elston Gunnn said: Although some papers reported about 10 days ago that Silva was “ready” to extend Baines’s contract for a year, we’ve seen no announcement yet from the club to confirm that. And now the Guardian’s Everton scribe uses the phrase “If Baines has a future” at Everton..... Just waiting for the season to end, I guess. Baines can still play EPL-level football, and finding an alternate LB replacement surely can’t be a priority this summer. https://www.theguardian.com/football/2019/may/06/premier-league-talking-points-weekend-action Got no problem with Baines as cover for Digne for another year. We need better quality in other areas of the field as a priority. markjazzbassist and Matt 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevO Posted May 6, 2019 Report Share Posted May 6, 2019 1 hour ago, Aidan said: Got no problem with Baines as cover for Digne for another year. We need better quality in other areas of the field as a priority. I’d be happy to give Baines two years, while he’s not playing every week he isn’t running his body into the ground. As you said Aidan, other areas need to be the priority. Matt and Aidan 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plaidharper Posted May 6, 2019 Report Share Posted May 6, 2019 Plus it would allow Antonee Robinson to go out on loan again in search of more minutes which he needs whereas Baines' legs could probably do with less. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted May 6, 2019 Report Share Posted May 6, 2019 i agree with the above about re-signing baines. Digne and he make a great pair of LB. We need to sign the heir apparent to Coleman now. I don't think Kenny is it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete0 Posted May 6, 2019 Report Share Posted May 6, 2019 His legs are gone unfortunately, he looked shattered in a few games around the 70 minute mark. If Digne was injured for a few games we'd need to change tactics to accommodate Baines as he can't get up and overlap as often any more. Easily done by moving a more selfish player like Richarlison back to the left as he doesn't require the support from the left back to get the best out of him. I'd prefer Kenny to play out of position over Baines. So if he stays I hope it's as third choice and his main role would be in training as a role model to the other lads. StevO 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevO Posted May 6, 2019 Report Share Posted May 6, 2019 4 hours ago, plaidharper said: Plus it would allow Antonee Robinson to go out on loan again in search of more minutes which he needs whereas Baines' legs could probably do with less. How has he done at Wigan this year? I worry about any player who’s into his 20’s and we aren’t hearing a lot about him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palfy Posted May 6, 2019 Report Share Posted May 6, 2019 I don’t think Baines would want to sign knowing he wouldn’t get playing time, if he’s not ready to hang his boots up I believe he will leave for where he has a chance of first team football. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted May 6, 2019 Report Share Posted May 6, 2019 1 minute ago, Palfy said: I don’t think Baines would want to sign knowing he wouldn’t get playing time, if he’s not ready to hang his boots up I believe he will leave for where he has a chance of first team football. he doesn't love football, he's been open about that, it's a job for him. he loves music. i don't see him going to MLS or anything. i could see him doing another year or 2 and collecting a fat check to essentially wind down and retire. Why uproot his family? Matt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palfy Posted May 6, 2019 Report Share Posted May 6, 2019 1 minute ago, markjazzbassist said: he doesn't love football, he's been open about that, it's a job for him. he loves music. i don't see him going to MLS or anything. i could see him doing another year or 2 and collecting a fat check to essentially wind down and retire. Why uproot his family? Because I don’t think he’s the sort of person who would be happy to do all the training and just sit on the bench if he thought he had something to offer someone, and it’s not as if he needs the money I think he’s got more class about him than just the money. Were both probably be wrong and he will retire but not long to find out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted May 6, 2019 Report Share Posted May 6, 2019 7 minutes ago, Palfy said: Because I don’t think he’s the sort of person who would be happy to do all the training and just sit on the bench if he thought he had something to offer someone, and it’s not as if he needs the money I think he’s got more class about him than just the money. Were both probably be wrong and he will retire but not long to find out. i could totally see that happening as well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevO Posted May 6, 2019 Report Share Posted May 6, 2019 I’ll be devastated if he does, love the guy. MikeO 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shukes Posted May 7, 2019 Report Share Posted May 7, 2019 I think he is the type of character to stay and help with he younger lads. Not just as a coach, but as a leader and role model. Clubs keep these type of characters around for years, knowing the impact it has on younger lads coming through. He loves the club. StevO and MikeO 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted May 7, 2019 Report Share Posted May 7, 2019 16 hours ago, markjazzbassist said: he doesn't love football, he's been open about that, it's a job for him. he loves music. i don't see him going to MLS or anything. i could see him doing another year or 2 and collecting a fat check to essentially wind down and retire. Why uproot his family? This. Plus, even if he knows that he would be a backup wouldn't mean he slack off just collecting money. His lack of love for football doesn't bother me, it's his professionalism (like Jags) that we need to keep and that which means he'd always be ready to go if needed MikeO, StevO and markjazzbassist 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plaidharper Posted May 7, 2019 Report Share Posted May 7, 2019 19 hours ago, StevO said: How has he done at Wigan this year? I worry about any player who’s into his 20’s and we aren’t hearing a lot about him. I would say the loan was a success. Only picked up 1 assist compared to the 5 he got at Bolton the year before BUT he was injured this season and missed 20 games. When he did play he always got the full 90 (and i do mean every game which is not something that happens to most of our loans). Made it into the Championship team of the week once or twice. Also in 2018 he picked up 6 games for the USA men's national team. After he recovered from his injury (march this year) he is now back with the USA u23 squad though. We might hear more about him on this side of the pond because his assist provided the winner for the USA vs Mexico game back in September. As mentioned above, I would say he needs another loan. StevO 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plaidharper Posted May 7, 2019 Report Share Posted May 7, 2019 1 minute ago, plaidharper said: I would say the loan was a success. Only picked up 1 assist compared to the 5 he got at Bolton the year before BUT he was injured this season and missed 20 games. When he did play he always got the full 90 (and i do mean every game which is not something that happens to most of our loans). Made it into the Championship team of the week once or twice. Also in 2018 he picked up 6 games for the USA men's national team. After he recovered from his injury (march this year) he is now back with the USA u23 squad though. We might hear more about him on this side of the pond because his assist provided the winner for the USA vs Mexico game back in September. As mentioned above, I would say he needs another loan. All that said though, really hoping he does not turn into Luke Garbutt 2.0 I would say that Antonee is already a better crosser and more likely to create chances than Luke ever was/did. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sibdane Posted May 7, 2019 Report Share Posted May 7, 2019 3 minutes ago, plaidharper said: All that said though, really hoping he does not turn into Luke Garbutt 2.0 I would say that Antonee is already a better crosser and more likely to create chances than Luke ever was/did. He definitely has more pace as well. Not really sure where he is at the moment in his development. I agree another loan is ideal, maybe to a lower PL side, if Baines stays. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevO Posted May 7, 2019 Report Share Posted May 7, 2019 4 hours ago, plaidharper said: All that said though, really hoping he does not turn into Luke Garbutt 2.0 I would say that Antonee is already a better crosser and more likely to create chances than Luke ever was/did. Thanks for the info. One thing I rated Garbutt on was his crossing (great dead ball too), so that’s good to hear from this lad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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