nogs Posted January 15, 2018 Report Share Posted January 15, 2018 1 minute ago, MikeO said: Wow. Great minds and all that... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quinn31 Posted January 15, 2018 Report Share Posted January 15, 2018 4 minutes ago, MikeO said: Some people develop later than others, eg Ossie only became a regular at 24 and then played 350+ games for us; I'm not writing him off yet. Yes, and we released Toto Nsiala at age 20 who has gone on to play for Southport, Hartlepool, Accrington Stanley, and Shrewsbury Town - some people are simply not good enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted January 15, 2018 Report Share Posted January 15, 2018 1 minute ago, Quinn31 said: Yes, and we released Toto Nsiala at age 20 who has gone on to play for Southport, Hartlepool, Accrington Stanley, and Shrewsbury Town - some people are simply not good enough. No doubting that, most players who come through the ranks aren't good enough in fact; I'm just still holding out some hope for Luke. Matt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EFC-Paul Posted January 15, 2018 Report Share Posted January 15, 2018 The difference is Garbutt has had some albeit very little first team action and has shown flashes of what could be.. Kenny is testament to giving a player a chance and not many would have wanted him thrown into the mix before the season started and he's faired very well the same with Holgate I still hold put hope the lad will come good the little I personally saw I thought there was definitely a good player in there Matt, London Blue and nyblue23 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncanmckenzieismagic Posted January 15, 2018 Author Report Share Posted January 15, 2018 The only reason Ossie was a late developer was because he suffered a career threatening long term knee injury just as he was breaking through from the youth team Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted January 15, 2018 Report Share Posted January 15, 2018 12 minutes ago, duncanmckenzieismagic said: The only reason Ossie was a late developer was because he suffered a career threatening long term knee injury just as he was breaking through from the youth team He was 17/18 when that happened, roughly six years before he became a fixture, so I don't think that argument carries much water. It may have had a small influence but nothing major. Matt and markjazzbassist 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncanmckenzieismagic Posted January 15, 2018 Author Report Share Posted January 15, 2018 He was 17/18 when that happened, roughly six years before he became a fixture, so I don't think that argument carries much water. It may have had a small influence but nothing major.Pretty sure it was later than that, he captained the FA Youth Cup winning team so I reckon he must have been about 21 when it happened Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted January 15, 2018 Report Share Posted January 15, 2018 8 minutes ago, duncanmckenzieismagic said: Pretty sure it was later than that, he captained the FA Youth Cup winning team so I reckon he must have been about 21 when it happened He was born in 1981 and we won the youth cup in 1998. markjazzbassist 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted January 15, 2018 Report Share Posted January 15, 2018 41 minutes ago, duncanmckenzieismagic said: The only reason Ossie was a late developer was because he suffered a career threatening long term knee injury just as he was breaking through from the youth team In that case Barkley could be about to bloom... oh wait Newty82 and StevO 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shukes Posted January 15, 2018 Report Share Posted January 15, 2018 Garbutt had a nasty injury as well didn’t he? Not sure but I thought I could remember him having a bad injury when he came here. Might be my imagination haha I’m tired. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haiku Posted January 15, 2018 Report Share Posted January 15, 2018 Just to clear things up: 1. Garbutt is not Ossie. 2. Ossie is not Barkley. 3. Barkley is not Garbutt. Capisci? StevO 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nogs Posted January 15, 2018 Report Share Posted January 15, 2018 1 hour ago, Quinn31 said: Yes, and we released Toto Nsiala at age 20 who has gone on to play for Southport, Hartlepool, Accrington Stanley, and Shrewsbury Town - some people are simply not good enough. We also released Phil Jagielka and Leighton Baines from our Academy before they were old enough to sign professional contracts and ended up spending upwards of £10m signing them back a decade or so later. Out of interest, how much of Luke Garbutt have you seen play? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Shukes Posted January 15, 2018 Popular Post Report Share Posted January 15, 2018 1 minute ago, Haiku said: Just to clear things up: 1. Garbutt is not Ossie. 2. Ossie is not Barkley. 3. Barkley is not Garbutt. Capisci? So Garbutt could be Niasse? I’m confused now. Quinn31, AlbanyNYToffee, Vranny and 3 others 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haiku Posted January 15, 2018 Report Share Posted January 15, 2018 2 minutes ago, Shukes said: So Garbutt could be Niasse? I’m confused now. He could be as much as being Donald Trump. Who knows? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted January 15, 2018 Report Share Posted January 15, 2018 8 minutes ago, Haiku said: Just to clear things up: 1. Garbutt is not Ossie. 2. Ossie is not Barkley. 3. Barkley is not Garbutt. Capisci? Did that need to be said? Nobody has said anybody is someone else. EFC-Paul 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncanmckenzieismagic Posted January 15, 2018 Author Report Share Posted January 15, 2018 Found it on the official site , it was 2001 when he got the injury so he would have been 20http://www.evertonfc.com/players/l/lo/leon-osman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted January 15, 2018 Report Share Posted January 15, 2018 3 minutes ago, duncanmckenzieismagic said: Found it on the official site , it was 2001 when he got the injury so he would have been 20http://www.evertonfc.com/players/l/lo/leon-osman So three years before he got established; kind of midway between what you were saying and what I was, so we were both wrong (or equally right which sounds better). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncanmckenzieismagic Posted January 15, 2018 Author Report Share Posted January 15, 2018 So three years before he got established; kind of midway between what you were saying and what I was, so we were both wrong (or equally right which sounds better[emoji3]).[emoji23] we will split the difference and both be right!Although technically I still might be right anyway, if the injury was after 17th May it means he will have been 21 [emoji12] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted January 15, 2018 Report Share Posted January 15, 2018 9 minutes ago, duncanmckenzieismagic said: Although technically I still might be right anyway, if the injury was after 17th May it means he will have been 21 You're not being pedantic are you? It's frowned on in these parts (by some). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncanmckenzieismagic Posted January 15, 2018 Author Report Share Posted January 15, 2018 http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/evertons-left-back-dilemma-needs-14158859 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted January 15, 2018 Report Share Posted January 15, 2018 1 hour ago, Haiku said: Just to clear things up: 1. Garbutt is not Ossie. 2. Ossie is not Barkley. 3. Barkley is not Garbutt. Capisci? 1 hour ago, Shukes said: So Garbutt could be Niasse? I’m confused now. Im trying to work out who Capisci is? Maybe he is going to be our new LB? Shukes and nyblue23 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted January 15, 2018 Report Share Posted January 15, 2018 1 minute ago, Bailey said: Im trying to work out who Capisci is? Maybe he is going to be our new LB? he meant capisce, it means "understand?" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted January 15, 2018 Report Share Posted January 15, 2018 1 minute ago, markjazzbassist said: he meant capisce, it means "understand?" (It was a joke - a shit one I grant you!) MikeO and nyblue23 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted January 15, 2018 Report Share Posted January 15, 2018 3 minutes ago, Bailey said: Im trying to work out who Capisci is? Maybe he is going to be our new LB? Italian with great understanding of the game. Bailey and markjazzbassist 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted January 15, 2018 Report Share Posted January 15, 2018 1 minute ago, Bailey said: (It was a joke - a shit one I grant you!) Made me giggle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted January 15, 2018 Report Share Posted January 15, 2018 1 minute ago, MikeO said: Made me giggle. Well that's good enough for me! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nyblue23 Posted January 16, 2018 Report Share Posted January 16, 2018 Garbutt is probably not good enough, but I’m positive that he’s better than Cuco. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chicagoblue Posted January 16, 2018 Report Share Posted January 16, 2018 He has a left foot, so he'll at least be able to play the ball down the line and put in a cross other than Cucos floaters. I'll be surprised if he suddenly suited that's he's premier league quality, but Sydney things have certainly happened. Omitting him and Niasse from the squads were two of Koemans most bizarre decisions Sibdane 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c1982 Posted January 20, 2018 Report Share Posted January 20, 2018 There’s rumours that he’s starting today... obviously registered then if that’s the case. markjazzbassist, EFC-Paul and Romey 1878 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted January 20, 2018 Report Share Posted January 20, 2018 40 minutes ago, c1982 said: There’s rumours that he’s starting today... obviously registered then if that’s the case. we live in hope Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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