Matt Posted March 9, 2016 Report Share Posted March 9, 2016 I really rate this kid, I don't see the benefit of Oviedo getting the contract extension. I'd have much rather seen Garbutt be Baines understudy next season and let Bryan find himself another club. Because he's a good player who had his contract running out this season and was playing well enough to keep Baines and Galloway out of the side? markjazzbassist 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevO Posted March 9, 2016 Report Share Posted March 9, 2016 Because he's a good player who had his contract running out this season and was playing well enough to keep Baines and Galloway out of the side? I know hes playing well now, he wasn't playing when he was given the contract. Since his leg break he picks up so many pulls and strains, I just don't think it was worth it. I'd rather Garbutt be the man to step in. I wouldn't consider Galloway there unless there was no other option. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted March 9, 2016 Report Share Posted March 9, 2016 I really rate this kid, I don't see the benefit of Oviedo getting the contract extension. I'd have much rather seen Garbutt be Baines understudy next season and let Bryan find himself another club. With Baines still struggling with his ankle and the wrong side of thirty we may be thinking he won't play much over the next few years. markjazzbassist 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevO Posted March 9, 2016 Report Share Posted March 9, 2016 Maybe, but I'd rather risk Garbutt. Both of our left backs have pretty bad injury records over the last two years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted March 9, 2016 Report Share Posted March 9, 2016 Maybe, but I'd rather risk Garbutt. Both of our left backs have pretty bad injury records over the last two years. So would I but for all we know Baines won't even be able to be a back-up player that often. And, like you, I don't even count Galloway as a LB unless we're on our knees desperate, so it makes sense to keep Oviedo around. He won't be on huge wages and loves it here. markjazzbassist and Matt 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted March 9, 2016 Report Share Posted March 9, 2016 So would I but for all we know Baines won't even be able to be a back-up player that often. And, like you, I don't even count Galloway as a LB unless we're on our knees desperate, so it makes sense to keep Oviedo around. He won't be on huge wages and loves it here. and that in itself is massive for team and club mentality and morale Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted March 9, 2016 Report Share Posted March 9, 2016 So would I but for all we know Baines won't even be able to be a back-up player that often. And, like you, I don't even count Galloway as a LB unless we're on our knees desperate, so it makes sense to keep Oviedo around. He won't be on huge wages and loves it here. spot on. baines might be done, it's oviedo and garbutt time. Galloway will be CB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
London Blue Posted March 9, 2016 Report Share Posted March 9, 2016 baines might be done, it's oviedo and garbutt time. Galloway will be CB. Agreed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevO Posted March 10, 2016 Report Share Posted March 10, 2016 I don't doubt Oviedos ability as a player, I doubt his ability to be available each week. For a young lad with minimal league football experience Garbutt is a hell of a prospect, I'd just rather see him be the number two and come in when Baines isn't needed. Matt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Makis Posted March 10, 2016 Report Share Posted March 10, 2016 Garbutt will be 23 in May so not exactly that young anymore considering how little he has played in the first team. chicagoblue 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
London Blue Posted March 10, 2016 Report Share Posted March 10, 2016 Garbutt will be 23 in May so not exactly that young anymore considering how little he has played in the first team. Don't forget he had a while out with injury. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EFC-Paul Posted March 10, 2016 Report Share Posted March 10, 2016 (edited) Garbutt is definitely a better option than Oviedo as much as I like and rate the lad Garbutt is immensely talented in my opinion I consider him a better player than the likes of Shaw Cresswell Flanagan etc who are generally touted about, he's just been unlucky that we've had Baines in such great form over the last few seasons Edited March 10, 2016 by EFC-Paul Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sibdane Posted March 10, 2016 Report Share Posted March 10, 2016 Garbutt is definitely a better option than Oviedo as much as I like and rate the lad Garbutt is immensely talented in my opinion I consider him a better player than the likes of Shaw Cresswell Flanagan etc who are generally touted about, he's just been unlucky that we've had Baines in such great form over the last few seasons You could almost say his progress has stalled because of all the depth at LB. It's not easy getting a turn when Baines is in front of you, and Oviedo was only able to make his mark due to some unfortunate injuries to Baines. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC11 Posted March 10, 2016 Report Share Posted March 10, 2016 Problem here is Oviedo "always" does a job. I like Garbutt a lot. I think there's real potential there. However we have two really good LB's infront of him. People are also forgetting Oviedo's versatility. Garbutts a left back and that's that Oviedo can seemingly swop wings and I'm sure he could play in the middle of the park to a capacity. Fantastic squad player and well worth the extension Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted May 20, 2016 Report Share Posted May 20, 2016 http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/everton-defender-luke-garbutt-ready-11355843 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jofanon Posted May 20, 2016 Report Share Posted May 20, 2016 Problem here is Oviedo "always" does a job. I like Garbutt a lot. I think there's real potential there. However we have two really good LB's infront of him. People are also forgetting Oviedo's versatility. Garbutts a left back and that's that Oviedo can seemingly swop wings and I'm sure he could play in the middle of the park to a capacity. Fantastic squad player and well worth the extension No he can't. Oviedo is a horrible, horrible right back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
London Blue Posted May 20, 2016 Report Share Posted May 20, 2016 He is going to be a quality player, should be rotated with Baines. Oviedo is a good player and I love having him around but he should be behind Garbutt and Baines. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smeghead1 Posted May 20, 2016 Report Share Posted May 20, 2016 (edited) Baines replacement in the next few seasons as far as I'm concerned quality player. And Oviedo is shite at right back if that's being versatile we've all got a chance playing there. Edited May 20, 2016 by smeghead1 EFC-Paul 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nutmegwolf203 Posted May 20, 2016 Report Share Posted May 20, 2016 Besides being injured and the state of the Fulham team...didn't he have a horrible season there? Including a performance he felt compelled to apologize for? This is what I heard/read, not something I know first hand. Just trying to get an assessment of his ability. I agree that his development has been hindered by the depth at the LB position. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quinn31 Posted May 20, 2016 Report Share Posted May 20, 2016 I think the new manager has a decision to make early-mid summer. In my opinion, there is no room for both Oviedo and Garbutt in the squad. Oviedo is an effective squad player, but I don't think he is ever going to be a world class leftback (and has a troublesome fitness record). Garbutt has shown potential but has limited experience. The new manager should determine 1) Oviedo's willingness and desire to remain a squad player with us or move to a smaller club in hopes of becoming a regular starter and 2) Garbutt's potential to be the heir apparent to Baines. If we think that Garbutt has the potential to replace Baines and be a real, class leftback, it would be smart to move Oviedo on and make Garbutt the #2 there. If not, it would make sense to move Garbutt on to a smaller club and keep Oviedo around as long as Oviedo doesn't want a move. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wall Writer Posted May 20, 2016 Report Share Posted May 20, 2016 From what I've seen of Garbutt, I'd love to see him be the heir to Baines' throne. When he's played for us he's be decent and his delivery into the box has been admirable. As much as I like oviedo, he's either second to Baines (no Garbutt) or second to Garbutt (no Baines). I think Baines has got a season or two left in him so I'd prefer Garbutt to understudy in the meantime. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wall Writer Posted May 20, 2016 Report Share Posted May 20, 2016 (edited) I will add thoughe that as much as I like oviedo - that's on the left. On the right I'd prefer lukaku to play RB Edited May 20, 2016 by Wall Writer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elston Gunnn Posted May 21, 2016 Report Share Posted May 21, 2016 I'd think Oviedo is suited to play some LW. Behind Mirallas on depth chart, but some starts when schedule is crowded, and sometimes subbing in for a tired Mirallas at 70 minutes. Better Oviedo out there than Cleverley. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sibdane Posted May 21, 2016 Report Share Posted May 21, 2016 Between the two, I'm taking Garbutt. He's shown a lot of promise in his brief cameos, and Oviedo can't stay healthy. Oviedo has also been figured out in several matches. I like his heart, but I think he'd better in a lesser league. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted August 11, 2016 Report Share Posted August 11, 2016 http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/everton-defender-luke-garbutts-attitude-11734961 Romey 1878 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sibdane Posted August 11, 2016 Report Share Posted August 11, 2016 I'm still hoping he breaks through. I would love to see him go out on loan to bottom-half PL club or a top half Championship club. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted August 11, 2016 Report Share Posted August 11, 2016 I'm still hoping he breaks through. I would love to see him go out on loan to bottom-half PL club or a top half Championship club. Completely agree, hope he stays healthy this time and gets a full run of game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newty82 Posted August 11, 2016 Report Share Posted August 11, 2016 I thought this lad had a lot to offer us? Always looked quite smart. I think at 23, he needs to make a decision for himself if he isn't going to get much opportunity here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nogs Posted August 12, 2016 Report Share Posted August 12, 2016 Koeman doesn't seem overly keen in giving any of the young lads a go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c1982 Posted August 12, 2016 Report Share Posted August 12, 2016 Koeman doesn't seem overly keen in giving any of the young lads a go. Davies, Dowell, Holgate. markjazzbassist 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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