StevO Posted August 24, 2015 Report Share Posted August 24, 2015 There are boxes to tick; Agree fee Agree terms Gain permit. So we gain the permit on appeal, then don't agree the rest and cancel the permit, how do we look the next time we have a permit up for appeal? I agree all boxes need to be ticked, but I don't see the issue doing this part last at all. He probably had to get involved in the paperwork too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nogs Posted August 24, 2015 Report Share Posted August 24, 2015 https://twitter.com/eaamalyon/status/635841783927283712 There's a link there to the FA criteria for granting Governing Body Exemption (GBE), basically their nod to the Home Office to give someone a permit. As this lad hasnt played nearly enough international games, the Appendix is the relevant part. Assuming Argentina constitutes one of the 'big 2' American leagues supplying most players to the Top 20 ranked international teams, and IF the lad played at least a third of the domestic games while River Plate won the Copa Libertadores, he could get an exemption... but it might also rest on percentiles of transfer fees and wages, which I don't understand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted August 24, 2015 Report Share Posted August 24, 2015 There's a link there to the FA criteria for granting Governing Body Exemption (GBE), basically their nod to the Home Office to give someone a permit. As this lad hasnt played nearly enough international games, the Appendix is the relevant part. Assuming Argentina constitutes one of the 'big 2' American leagues supplying most players to the Top 20 ranked international teams, and IF the lad played at least a third of the domestic games while River Plate won the Copa Libertadores, he could get an exemption... but it might also rest on percentiles of transfer fees and wages, which I don't understand. In other words, it's complicated as fuck. Standard for us . markjazzbassist 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paddock Posted August 24, 2015 Report Share Posted August 24, 2015 There are boxes to tick; Agree fee Agree terms Gain permit. So we gain the permit on appeal, then don't agree the rest and cancel the permit, how do we look the next time we have a permit up for appeal? I agree all boxes need to be ticked, but I don't see the issue doing this part last at all. He probably had to get involved in the paperwork too. I would say sll those before we flew him over. Everything can be done via email and fax these days, Skype , phone etc etc. get everything in place tell him we are now in the process of applying them if granted fly him over to sign. It's just presumptious of us to fly him over and ameteurish of us to have him in the ground wearing a scarf etc getting fans hopes up that he's signed. It's these types of things we do that piss off the supporters. In my opinion it's sloppy and ameteurish Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted August 24, 2015 Report Share Posted August 24, 2015 So he was on a visitors visa at the weekend? Can we not just scribble out the header / title? Sounds like something the board would try! markjazzbassist 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newty82 Posted August 24, 2015 Report Share Posted August 24, 2015 Would he need to come over for a medical? Or is that generally the final stage? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paddock Posted August 24, 2015 Report Share Posted August 24, 2015 Would he need to come over for a medical? Or is that generally the final stage? He still hasn't had a medical according to reports. We get the permit he has a medical (I think) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted August 24, 2015 Report Share Posted August 24, 2015 He still hasn't had a medical according to reports. We get the permit he has a medical (I think) Which reports? I keep trying the google search for him since the last hour and theres nothing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newty82 Posted August 24, 2015 Report Share Posted August 24, 2015 He still hasn't had a medical according to reports. We get the permit he has a medical (I think) You know what, with all these reports going on (not just for us...Neymar for example!)...I'm at the point of just sodding these reporters off. I'll just wait and see where we are when the window closes. (Must admit though...I do enjoy all the bullshit...especially transfer deadline day...almost as good as Hollyoaks). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevO Posted August 24, 2015 Report Share Posted August 24, 2015 (edited) Of course he's had a medical. The permit will be the last part. He's been in Liverpool for days so he will have had the medical and everything agreed.If people think this is amateurish, just wait until you see him try to defend! Edited August 25, 2015 by Matt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paddock Posted August 24, 2015 Report Share Posted August 24, 2015 Someone posted a pic of him in the Hilton, apparently the lad taking the pic slipped inside of him, his mate went up beside him they snapped the picture then took off. Mori just stood there looking to the side of him with his right armin the air and never moved. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcopaulo Posted August 24, 2015 Report Share Posted August 24, 2015 Do do do Do do do Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c1982 Posted August 24, 2015 Author Report Share Posted August 24, 2015 apparently the lad taking the pic slipped inside of him I don't think I want to see that picture but I do hope it was consensual. Matt and Romey 1878 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC11 Posted August 24, 2015 Report Share Posted August 24, 2015 I don't think I want to see that picture but I do hope it was consensual. Hahaha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted August 25, 2015 Report Share Posted August 25, 2015 According to SSN we're not worried about the work permit at all and expect it to go through. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nogs Posted August 25, 2015 Report Share Posted August 25, 2015 According to SSN we're not worried about the work permit at all and expect it to go through. Pretty much what Martinez said in press conference, even said 'a few hours' so expect it to scrape through 23.55 on deadline day... Romey 1878 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Louis Posted August 25, 2015 Report Share Posted August 25, 2015 I think he can be confident. A straightforward Work permit application would be rejected because he didn't play in enough games for Argentina but an appeal would most likely go through because Funes has won the Copa Sudamericana, ReCopa Sudamericana, Argentine league and Copa Libertadores in the past two years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeQuince Posted August 25, 2015 Report Share Posted August 25, 2015 http://www.espnfc.com/blog/scouts-notebook/78/post/2580274/funes-mori-needs-time-to-shine-for-everton-in-premier-league Tells a little more of his story. I wonder why he never sought American citizenship. From the article: "Tackling: Strong into the tackle but has a tendency to mistime at least one or two per match. Needlessly aggressive at times. For example, he was sent off for a two-footed scissor challenge in the league draw with Boca Juniors last year, and he was fortunate not to be receive another red card for a kick to the stomach of Pablo Perez against the same opponents in the first leg of their Copa Libertadores round-of-16 encounter in May." So, basically, he will be epic come derby time! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EFC-Paul Posted August 25, 2015 Report Share Posted August 25, 2015 I hope him Besic and Barry don't play at the same time then we'll either be down to 8 men or being prosecuted for multiple section 18's Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeQuince Posted August 25, 2015 Report Share Posted August 25, 2015 or suspended ? I would hope not. Though, I'd love to see some more physicality and aggression from our CBs, especially in the derby. I don't mean dirty play. I want to see us physically impose ourselves upon the opposition's forwards so they don't feel as if they can play the game they want to play. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Louis Posted August 25, 2015 Report Share Posted August 25, 2015 FC Dallas must be kicking themselves, they had two future Argentine internationals in their academy and they let both go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cornish Steve Posted August 25, 2015 Report Share Posted August 25, 2015 Tells a little more of his story. I wonder why he never sought American citizenship. I've lived in the US now for almost 30 years and remain only a British citizen. In my case, as a matter of principle, I point-blank refuse to pledge allegiance to any flag. There are many reasons why individuals refuse to switch or add citizenship, so I guess we won't know in his case. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeQuince Posted August 25, 2015 Report Share Posted August 25, 2015 I've lived in the US now for almost 30 years and remain only a British citizen. In my case, as a matter of principle, I point-blank refuse to pledge allegiance to any flag. There are many reasons why individuals refuse to switch or add citizenship, so I guess we won't know in his case. I understand that entirely. The circumstances of emigration/immigration have more to do with these decisions than anything. He came with his parents as a 10-year-old kid and graduated high school in the U.S. If his parents were economic migrants and never really needed citizenship, then that would partially explain it. If he never planned on attending college here, that would explain it further. Sorry if this is a weird tangent. Researching immigration and citizenship is pretty much my life, so I can't help finding this of interest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted August 25, 2015 Report Share Posted August 25, 2015 I understand that entirely. The circumstances of emigration/immigration have more to do with these decisions than anything. He came with his parents as a 10-year-old kid and graduated high school in the U.S. If his parents were economic migrants and never really needed citizenship, then that would partially explain it. If he never planned on attending college here, that would explain it further. Sorry if this is a weird tangent. Researching immigration and citizenship is pretty much my life, so I can't help finding this of interest. Not short of subject matter at the moment then! Worldwide! Interesting subject though a bit over emotive for many to discuss rationally just now I think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted August 25, 2015 Report Share Posted August 25, 2015 (edited) I've lived in the US now for almost 30 years and remain only a British citizen. In my case, as a matter of principle, I point-blank refuse to pledge allegiance to any flag. There are many reasons why individuals refuse to switch or add citizenship, so I guess we won't know in his case. i don't blame you steve, i'm a us citizen (although MC says i'm honorary scouse since i use lad, mate, and skint like) and even i don't want to salute and pledge that damn pledge. it is so not needed. Edited August 25, 2015 by markjazzbassist Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncanmckenzieismagic Posted August 25, 2015 Report Share Posted August 25, 2015 I've lived in the US now for almost 30 years and remain only a British citizen. In my case, as a matter of principle, I point-blank refuse to pledge allegiance to any flag. There are many reasons why individuals refuse to switch or add citizenship, so I guess we won't know in his case. I did it the other way, I was born in America but was brought up in Liverpool and when I got a British passport at the age of 17 the USA revoked my American one Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lowensda Posted August 27, 2015 Report Share Posted August 27, 2015 What is happening with this? Supposed to have been wrapped up days ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncanmckenzieismagic Posted August 27, 2015 Report Share Posted August 27, 2015 What is happening with this? Supposed to have been wrapped up days ago. Should be done in the next few hours chicagoblue 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC11 Posted August 27, 2015 Report Share Posted August 27, 2015 I heard he can't have a work permit hearing till Monday. I've heard an American Tycoon is close to taking over. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
London Blue Posted August 27, 2015 Report Share Posted August 27, 2015 I heard he can't have a work permit hearing till Monday. Tuesday as bank holiday Monday... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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