Wall Writer Posted September 1, 2022 Report Share Posted September 1, 2022 12 minutes ago, duncanmckenzieismagic said: Think he is genuinely almost as happy as I am that he is back Looks to me as if he's saying...yeah but seriously, that rainbow flag is really on the kit!!?? StevO 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevO Posted September 1, 2022 Report Share Posted September 1, 2022 20 minutes ago, duncanmckenzieismagic said: Think he is genuinely almost as happy as I am that he is back Can’t underestimate the role Jimmy plays at the club. He doesn’t just keep the shirts clean. duncanmckenzieismagic, Gwlad, Matt and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sibdane Posted September 2, 2022 Report Share Posted September 2, 2022 If @pete0 doesn’t speak up soon then I’m going to assume he’s ecstatic about the Gueye transfer. I really thought he’d pop in by now. Shukes 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevO Posted September 2, 2022 Report Share Posted September 2, 2022 1 hour ago, RPG said: I have always maintained that politics and religion should play no visible part in sport but sport (particularly soccer) has become so commercialised in recent years that it is very difficult (just about impossible) to ensure that remains the case. I remember being told by my father before my first (legal) visit to a pub: 'Son, you can go in there and talk about anything other than politics and religion. They are very personal and delicate subjects and people must be allowed to hold their own personal views. Discuss politics or religion in public and you will be heading for trouble' I think the same convention should apply to sports (advertising and taking the knee etc) now as it did to pubs then. As soon as sports advertising is used to to promote anything with likely political or religious links, it automatically starts a debate and then we are back to talking about politics on a sports thread - which would be a terrible shame. I'm not saying that all the good work EITC etc does should cease of course but let's keep the football pitch itself for purely footballing matters. Debating is healthy in my opinion. If you’re views are nothing to be ashamed of there is no reason to need to hide them. Taking the knee was very important and I’m glad football in our country did it. But that’s just my opinion, and was subject to a few disappointing conversations I’ve had with my dad. Matt, Cornish Steve, MikeO and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted September 2, 2022 Report Share Posted September 2, 2022 15 minutes ago, StevO said: Debating is healthy in my opinion. If you’re views are nothing to be ashamed of there is no reason to need to hide them. Taking the knee was very important and I’m glad football in our country did it. But that’s just my opinion, and was subject to a few disappointing conversations I’ve had with my dad. I can’t stand tokenism though, hate it. We were taking the knee whilst countries like Montenegro were allowed to monkey chant through 90 minutes. The authorities don’t punish hate properly but if someone doesn’t abide by gestures then they are ridiculed. Wall Writer, Matt, Isaiah and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoof_It_Nev Posted September 2, 2022 Report Share Posted September 2, 2022 Has anyone been watching him at PSG since he left? (I haven't, by the way). He's at an age where he's obviously got a limited amount of seasons left in him - has he still got the same pace? I think it would be very naive to assume we're signing the same Gana that we sold 3 years ago. There must be a reason PSG wanted to let him go after a few years. Oh, and can we change the thread title and give the lad a fresh start please Sibdane 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palfy Posted September 2, 2022 Report Share Posted September 2, 2022 4 hours ago, Hoof_It_Nev said: Has anyone been watching him at PSG since he left? (I haven't, by the way). He's at an age where he's obviously got a limited amount of seasons left in him - has he still got the same pace? I think it would be very naive to assume we're signing the same Gana that we sold 3 years ago. There must be a reason PSG wanted to let him go after a few years. Oh, and can we change the thread title and give the lad a fresh start please Hard to say hasn’t played much in the last 6 months, but I would assume due to age his pace and energy haven’t increased. Hoof_It_Nev 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shukes Posted September 2, 2022 Report Share Posted September 2, 2022 5 hours ago, Hoof_It_Nev said: Has anyone been watching him at PSG since he left? (I haven't, by the way). He's at an age where he's obviously got a limited amount of seasons left in him - has he still got the same pace? I think it would be very naive to assume we're signing the same Gana that we sold 3 years ago. There must be a reason PSG wanted to let him go after a few years. Oh, and can we change the thread title and give the lad a fresh start please I watched him a lot mate. Played most of their champions league and big matches. Looked completely different than when he was with us. Played more as a box to box progressive player. Looks more offensive than he was he ever was with is. Hoof_It_Nev 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palfy Posted September 2, 2022 Report Share Posted September 2, 2022 7 hours ago, RPG said: There are more than enough places dedicated to debating politics and religion. My point is not that these subjects should not be debated at all, but rather that they should not be debated on a sports thread (or be advertised or otherwise on show on a football pitch) and should only be debated by people who are specifically looking to debate them, and in a venue or website dedicated to that purpose. People taking part in a sports thread should not have to pick their way through a political or religious debate. I was active in the rainbow debate earlier but would have much preferred to have not felt obliged to get involved at all. Taking the knee was not at all important to me or Wilfrid Zaha and many others and I deliberately missed the first couple of minutes of every televised game so as not to support it. If we had signed Zaha (which looked possible at one stage) would there have been similar objections because he refused to take a knee? But that's just my view. Not wanting to open up 'that' debate again after a very satisfying window. So I'll close with a general statement that mixing sport with politics and/or religion is not a good idea. Agreed, said the same thing a couple of years ago and asked the mods to close the religious and political threads, it wasn’t viewed as a necessity or a good idea which is fair enough. Yet religion and politics are very much part of everyday life so hard to avoid even in sports debating, Gana’s decision not to wear the shirt once opened for debate was always going to escalate, and go down different avenues and escalate into condemnation of people who held different views, whether right or wrong that just seems to be par for the course where ever you debate these subjects. Without trying to speak for anyone else I would say we have a choice to be involved or not in any debates other than the sport threads. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shukes Posted September 2, 2022 Report Share Posted September 2, 2022 As long as it doesn’t get to personal attacks then any topic should be able to be debated in a friendly non judgmental way. Ill even debate red wine in a fridge with anyone! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cornish Steve Posted September 2, 2022 Report Share Posted September 2, 2022 12 hours ago, Sibdane said: If @pete0 doesn’t speak up soon then I’m going to assume he’s ecstatic about the Gueye transfer. I really thought he’d pop in by now. On 27/04/2019 at 12:21, pete0 said: I've nothing to be embarrassed about On 04/04/2019 at 11:53, pete0 said: Most on here will know I'm not fond of Gana On 04/05/2019 at 05:15, pete0 said: but you can't fault his passing and positioning On 26/04/2019 at 07:28, pete0 said: His attitude, he was a winner. He owned his area of the pitch. On 25/04/2019 at 14:24, pete0 said: Like Matt says we need a squad. On 04/04/2019 at 11:53, pete0 said: Be happy being more organised, playing better/faster football, and sitting higher up the table. On 13/05/2019 at 13:27, pete0 said: Use the money to buy... Gana On 16/01/2019 at 04:31, pete0 said: Enjoy the tea and biscuits. Sir McGiven and Sibdane 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trigger Posted September 2, 2022 Report Share Posted September 2, 2022 2 hours ago, Shukes said: As long as it doesn’t get to personal attacks then any topic should be able to be debated in a friendly non judgmental way. Ill even debate red wine in a fridge with anyone! Red Wine in a Fridge!!!! Heathen Shukes, Matt and MikeO 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goodison Glory Posted September 3, 2022 Report Share Posted September 3, 2022 8 hours ago, Trigger said: Red Wine in a Fridge!!!! Heathen Red wine should always be chilled! Matt and Shukes 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goodison Glory Posted September 3, 2022 Report Share Posted September 3, 2022 Chilled at the right temp also...not a household fridge or as cold as a beer. Get yourself a wine fridge and enjoy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sibdane Posted September 3, 2022 Report Share Posted September 3, 2022 10 hours ago, Cornish Steve said: How long did this take you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevO Posted September 3, 2022 Report Share Posted September 3, 2022 17 hours ago, Palfy said: Without trying to speak for anyone else I would say we have a choice to be involved or not in any debates other than the sport threads. This. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevO Posted September 3, 2022 Report Share Posted September 3, 2022 4 hours ago, Goodison Glory said: Chilled at the right temp also...not a household fridge or as cold as a beer. Get yourself a wine fridge and enjoy That may be the case for you, but we all know Shukes has his red wine the same temperature at beer. The man is an animal! Goodison Glory, Shukes and Matt 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shukes Posted September 3, 2022 Report Share Posted September 3, 2022 30 minutes ago, StevO said: That may be the case for you, but we all know Shukes has his red wine the same temperature at beer. The man is an animal! Makes it all nice and crisp! StevO 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shukes Posted September 3, 2022 Report Share Posted September 3, 2022 Has he even been away? Looked like he played here forever. plaidharper, Aidan, dunlopp9987 and 1 other 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted September 3, 2022 Report Share Posted September 3, 2022 6 minutes ago, Shukes said: Has he even been away? Looked like he played here forever. Can't wait for him to get games under his belt and improve his energy levels further. We've missed his type of play since, well, him. Newty82 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plaidharper Posted September 3, 2022 Report Share Posted September 3, 2022 Twas very class today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shukes Posted September 3, 2022 Report Share Posted September 3, 2022 He seemed to release Onana a bit as well. He makes the game look so simple. Matt, StevO, badaids and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted September 3, 2022 Report Share Posted September 3, 2022 Amazing to play like that after so long away from premier league. Quality. Matt and duncanmckenzieismagic 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newty82 Posted September 3, 2022 Report Share Posted September 3, 2022 Was blatantly obvious to anyone open minded/open eyed that this guy left a gapping hole in our team when he left. I didn't/don't expect as much from him now he's 32 but that display today was so much more than I expected. Superb. Wiggytop and Matt 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Matt Posted September 3, 2022 Popular Post Report Share Posted September 3, 2022 29 minutes ago, Shukes said: He seemed to release Onana a bit as well. He makes the game look so simple. That's why he's rarely appreciated, he enables others, gets stuck in, works hard and keeps it simple. Romey 1878, Newty82, msloan78 and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevO Posted September 3, 2022 Report Share Posted September 3, 2022 One thing I noticed different in his game since he left, he moves the ball on quicker when he receives it. Not like he was slow before, but he looked like he got it and moved it before they had a chance to react. I guess that’s from playing with a higher quality of player around him. What he can do for Iwobi and Onana is very exciting. msloan78, Shukes, Romey 1878 and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncanmckenzieismagic Posted September 3, 2022 Author Report Share Posted September 3, 2022 Surely PeteO/Palfy can now see the difference ? StevO and plaidharper 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palfy Posted September 3, 2022 Report Share Posted September 3, 2022 1 hour ago, duncanmckenzieismagic said: Surely PeteO/Palfy can now see the difference ? Not really he didn’t change the game when he came on, so what difference are we talking about? Matt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gwlad Posted September 3, 2022 Report Share Posted September 3, 2022 5 minutes ago, Palfy said: Not really he didn’t change the game when he came on, so what difference are we talking about? Prophet of doom. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palfy Posted September 3, 2022 Report Share Posted September 3, 2022 Just now, Gwlad all over said: Prophet of doom. I would say insightful wisdom, unless of course I’m wrong and he did change the game. His first game back was okay but nothing special. Matt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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