markjazzbassist Posted August 21, 2017 Report Share Posted August 21, 2017 (edited) Got a trip to Croatia before this one so hoping everyone stays healthy. They love to sit back and counter but will be home so will need to attack some. Schneiderlin on red card. Pickford Holgate Keane Jags Baines Klaassen Gana Davies Sandro DCL Rooney I think we'll see gylfi get some sub time as well. Edited August 21, 2017 by markjazzbassist Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparks FC Posted August 23, 2017 Report Share Posted August 23, 2017 According to Koeman, Klaasen out this week and Sandro in doubt. Chelsea have been playing 3 at the back and a 4 or 5 man midfield for the past 2 games, so I can see us lining up with a pretty similar lineup from the City game. Pickford Williams Keane Jags Holgate Davies Gana Thor Baines Rooney DCL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted August 24, 2017 Report Share Posted August 24, 2017 According to Koeman, Klaasen out this week and Sandro in doubt. Chelsea have been playing 3 at the back and a 4 or 5 man midfield for the past 2 games, so I can see us lining up with a pretty similar lineup from the City game. Pickford Williams Keane Jags Holgate Davies Gana Thor Baines Rooney DCL Didn't we go 3 at the back there last season and get absolutely mauled? Actually can't believe there are sane people advocating that formation. Sev 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aidan Posted August 24, 2017 Report Share Posted August 24, 2017 Didn't we go 3 at the back there last season and get absolutely mauled? Actually can't believe there are sane people advocating that formation. Yep but I'd bet my left bollock we will set up 5 at the back again. Matt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparks FC Posted August 24, 2017 Report Share Posted August 24, 2017 Didn't we go 3 at the back there last season and get absolutely mauled? Actually can't believe there are sane people advocating that formation. Yeah but I'm not in charge of the teamsheet. It was more a guess at what Koeman will put up than what I want. 3 at the back is the new false 9. We also had Stek, Cleverly, Funes Mori and Oviedo in that lineup to be fair. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vranny Posted August 26, 2017 Report Share Posted August 26, 2017 I'm thinking: Pickford Holgate Keane Jags Baines Davies Gana Lookman/Mirallas Rooney Sig DCL Has a good mix of pace and grit, though wouldn't at all be surprised to see the 3/5 at the back rolled out again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palfy Posted August 26, 2017 Report Share Posted August 26, 2017 (edited) Pickford. Holgate. Keane. Williams. Jags. Baines. Besic. Gana. Gylfi. DCL. Rooney. If Besic is not available due his father then Davies, Holgate and Baines need to try and play most of the game in there half if Koeman goes with a back three. Totally messed up there on original put Schneiderlin in. Edited August 26, 2017 by Palfy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elston Gunnn Posted August 26, 2017 Report Share Posted August 26, 2017 We've gone temporarily from having a surfeit of DMs (Schneiderlin, Gana, Barry, McCarthy, Besic, Davies) to maybe having only Davies available for Chelsea. So, because of Barry's departure, Schneiderlin's red, McCarthy's injury, Gana's knock, and Besic's bad news, we may finally get a chance to see Koeman play a single DM. Weird, weird combination of circumstances for tomorrow. If Besic doesn't play, I hope Koeman will not risk long-term injury to less-than-fit Gana. Hard to guess what tomorrow's starters and formation might be. Maybe ....... Pickford Keane Williams Jagielka Martina Davies Baines Lennon Sigurdsson Mirallas Rooney Subs - DCL, Lookman, Holgate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete0 Posted August 26, 2017 Report Share Posted August 26, 2017 I think it'll be this team Pickford Martina Keane Jagielka Williams Baines Davies Klaassen DCL Rooney Sigurdssen Would prefer Pickford Holgate Keane Williams Baines Martina Davies Klaassen Mirallas Rooney DCL Martina to put a few crosses on to young Dominic's head. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elston Gunnn Posted August 26, 2017 Report Share Posted August 26, 2017 Pete0- Koeman said before 2d Split match that Klaassen was out until after international break. Injuries are really limiting Koeman's options for Chelsea. Minor miracle to take a point from this one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nyblue23 Posted August 26, 2017 Report Share Posted August 26, 2017 Pete0- Koeman said before 2d Split match that Klaassen was out until after international break. Injuries are really limiting Koeman's options for Chelsea. Minor miracle to take a point from this one. Maybe, but they're down Hazard and don't look to have really gelled yet, either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elston Gunnn Posted August 27, 2017 Report Share Posted August 27, 2017 Maybe, but they're down Hazard and don't look to have really gelled yet, either. Admittedly, your optimism is more uplifting than my pessimism. In terms of jelling, it does seem to me that this dismaying set of long-and-short-term injuries means that whatever team Koeman starts, they will likely still be very new to each other collectively, and so will have to figure out each other's play almost on the pitch as play proceeds. I'll be happy with a point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete0 Posted August 27, 2017 Report Share Posted August 27, 2017 Pete0- Koeman said before 2d Split match that Klaassen was out until after international break. Injuries are really limiting Koeman's options for Chelsea. Minor miracle to take a point from this one.Feck sake. Good chance for a youngster to step up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c1982 Posted August 27, 2017 Report Share Posted August 27, 2017 Feck sake. Good chance for a youngster to step up. Or your favourite player Idrissa Gana Gueye. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted August 27, 2017 Report Share Posted August 27, 2017 Or your favourite player Idrissa Gana Gueye.Isnt Jags his favourite player? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elston Gunnn Posted August 27, 2017 Report Share Posted August 27, 2017 (edited) The news that Mirallas isn't in today's squad and may be going out on loan (or sold??) discourages me. Good heavens, with all our injuries and the Besic situation, surely we very much need him today. I think I recall when he was substituted out of the first Hajduk Split match around the 75' mark, he looked angry. Wonder whether he and Koeman exchanged harsh words after that match. I like Mirallas, do find his inconsistency - and maybe immaturity (?) - frustrating. I thought a few weeks back that until Bolasie returns, Mirallas and Lookman would compete for major minutes on the wing. This situation is frustrating, I guess for all concerned. As Davies looks certain to play DCM today, our attacking options appear to be Rooney, Sigurdsson, DCL, Lookman, and Lennon. Edited August 27, 2017 by Elston Gunnn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted August 27, 2017 Report Share Posted August 27, 2017 I'll be surprised if we spend much time even in their half tbh, it's going to be a very long afternoon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted August 27, 2017 Report Share Posted August 27, 2017 I'll be surprised if we spend much time even in their half tbh, it's going to be a very long afternoon.agreed. Fortunately I'll be in Grindelwald admiring the Eiger before driving home, so I won't have to suffer it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted August 27, 2017 Report Share Posted August 27, 2017 agreed. Fortunately I'll be in Grindelwald admiring the Eiger before driving home, so I won't have to suffer it No doubt we'll sit right back and play on the counter with all our slow players. What a masterful game plan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnh Posted August 27, 2017 Report Share Posted August 27, 2017 I'll be surprised if we spend much time even in their half tbh, it's going to be a very long afternoon. In the last couple of games we haven''t spent much time in anyone's half - other than our own! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted August 27, 2017 Report Share Posted August 27, 2017 Koeman is circling the wagons as we speak. A spare penknife to each player for the gun fight... Let's hope any potential targets choose not to watch sky today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elston Gunnn Posted August 27, 2017 Report Share Posted August 27, 2017 (edited) Koeman is circling the wagons as we speak. A spare penknife to each player for the gun fight... Let's hope any potential targets choose not to watch sky today. I'm not entirely sure what you mean here. I might guess, but would prefer you say a bit more, so the slower among us can catch your drift. I myself - one of the slow ones - don't see that Koeman has much choice other than to circle the wagons for this (one) match. For, it appears to me that 6 or 8 possible "regulars" are unavailable today. I concede that it might be ugly for Everton today. But as this is (1) the 4th match in 11 days, coming at the (2) very early (EL) beginning of the season and (3) pretty quickly after travel, with (4) numerous first-choice players unavailable, I'm not much inclined to blame Koeman for whatever wagon-circling he organizes for this specific match. I don't know that we'll be able to tell much about Koeman's approach to this season from this specific weird-circumstances match. But I infer you disagree, and so want to hear more. Seriously. Edited August 27, 2017 by Elston Gunnn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palfy Posted August 27, 2017 Report Share Posted August 27, 2017 agreed. Fortunately I'll be in Grindelwald admiring the Eiger before driving home, so I won't have to suffer itPost some pics give us something nice to watch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newty82 Posted August 27, 2017 Report Share Posted August 27, 2017 I think Holgate will start at RB for his defensive qualities, I'm sure Martina is used more for his offensive play than his defensive. Gana will start with Morgan being out. Davies along with him. Up top, you just never know!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barryj Posted August 27, 2017 Report Share Posted August 27, 2017 Koeman is circling the wagons as we speak. A spare penknife to each player for the gun fight... Let's hope any potential targets choose not to watch sky today. Luckily then it's not on Sky! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elston Gunnn Posted August 27, 2017 Report Share Posted August 27, 2017 Gana will start with Morgan being out. Davies along with him. Wouldn't surprise me, but we've had several signals over past week that Gana has a real knock and is doubtful. I hope he doesn't play. I'd rather lose a point today than lose Gana for several weeks. We have 6 matches in 18 days in last half of September. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted August 27, 2017 Report Share Posted August 27, 2017 I'm not entirely sure what you mean here. I might guess, but would prefer you say a bit more, so the slower among us can catch your drift. I myself - one of the slow ones - don't see that Koeman has much choice other than to circle the wagons for this (one) match. For, it appears to me that 6 or 8 possible "regulars" are unavailable today. I concede that it might be ugly for Everton today. But as this is (1) the 4th match in 11 days, coming at the (2) very early (EL) beginning of the season and (3) pretty quickly after travel, with (4) numerous first-choice players unavailable, I'm not much inclined to blame Koeman for whatever wagon-circling he organizes for this specific match. I don't know that we'll be able to tell much about Koeman's approach to this season from this specific weird-circumstances match. But I infer you disagree, and so want to hear more. Seriously. I'll summarise.... If we have 3 centre halves, 2 full backs and 2 two defensive midfielders he can fuck off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete0 Posted August 27, 2017 Report Share Posted August 27, 2017 I'll summarise.... If we have 3 centre halves, 2 full backs and 2 two defensive midfielders he can fuck off. And a striker in the wing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barryj Posted August 27, 2017 Report Share Posted August 27, 2017 I'll summarise.... If we have 3 centre halves, 2 full backs and 2 two defensive midfielders he can fuck off. It's got to be a balancing act away to Chelsea with the current injuries and suspension. We lost both matches against them last season so I'd happily take a point from this away game and worry about great performances and attacking flair later in the season after we get these tricky fixtures wedged after European games out the way. It won't be pretty today but unfortunately its the only way we have any chance of taking anything from the game. City revisited I think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elston Gunnn Posted August 27, 2017 Report Share Posted August 27, 2017 I'll summarise.... If we have 3 centre halves, 2 full backs and 2 two defensive midfielders he can fuck off. I wonder whether we have even 2 DCMs healthy. And the only healthy one - Davies - has been playing all over the place this season. But the scenario you present is, yes, a real possibility. I'll still guess (wildly) that it will be more like a 3-3-3-1. Which would mean 6 predominantly defensive players, rather than the 7 in your scenario. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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