London Blue Posted December 31, 2021 Report Share Posted December 31, 2021 The word that most comes to mind when I try to describe Cenk's performances for us is feeble. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sibdane Posted January 1, 2022 Report Share Posted January 1, 2022 9 hours ago, Matt said: Tosun had a strong start? I desperately wanted him too because I think he's a brilliant finisher based on the training challenges but he's not had a strong game let alone a run of them. When he first started for us he wasn’t that bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted January 1, 2022 Report Share Posted January 1, 2022 6 hours ago, Sibdane said: When he first started for us he wasn’t that bad. He wasn't Rondon levels of useless but he wasn't someone that looked remotely like being a £24m player. Sibdane 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted January 1, 2022 Report Share Posted January 1, 2022 7 hours ago, Sibdane said: When he first started for us he wasn’t that bad. Think we were just that shit, desperate for a change and reeling from that manager being appointed that anything going forward under our possession was considered "positive" Palfy and Sibdane 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sibdane Posted January 1, 2022 Report Share Posted January 1, 2022 1 hour ago, Matt said: Think we were just that shit, desperate for a change and reeling from that manager being appointed that anything going forward under our possession was considered "positive" True. It was during the “era” of Fat Sam, so what little good there was stood out to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncanmckenzieismagic Posted January 28, 2022 Author Report Share Posted January 28, 2022 https://the72.co.uk/260953/everton-striker-cenk-tosun-rejects-hull-city-move/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted January 28, 2022 Report Share Posted January 28, 2022 1 hour ago, duncanmckenzieismagic said: https://the72.co.uk/260953/everton-striker-cenk-tosun-rejects-hull-city-move/ Wtf. Get out of the club you greedy money grabbing nomark Gwlad 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cornish Steve Posted January 29, 2022 Report Share Posted January 29, 2022 On 28/01/2022 at 06:36, Hafnia said: Wtf. Get out of the club you greedy money grabbing nomark We can't blame him; he simply wants the club to honor its contract. 100 percent of the blame resides with Crooked Sam and a board who thought it was a good idea to appoint him as manager. Matt and Chach 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badaids Posted January 29, 2022 Report Share Posted January 29, 2022 Hi Cenk mate can you gtfo of our club please cheers mate. Palfy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted January 29, 2022 Report Share Posted January 29, 2022 25 minutes ago, Cornish Steve said: We can't blame him; he simply wants the club to honor its contract. 100 percent of the blame resides with Crooked Sam and a board who thought it was a good idea to appoint him as manager. Honour…… not sure how much honour there is in what he’s doing. Yeah I get the money side of things but ffs he has opportunity to play football but he doesn’t want to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shukes Posted January 29, 2022 Report Share Posted January 29, 2022 He isn’t going to go to the championship. He isn’t stupid, he knows it’s above his level. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Formby Posted January 29, 2022 Report Share Posted January 29, 2022 Our fault for buying such rubbish; but, really, a footballer (just about) who doesn't want to play football shows him for what he is - a mercenary. Hafnia 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palfy Posted January 29, 2022 Report Share Posted January 29, 2022 2 minutes ago, Formby said: Our fault for buying such rubbish; but, really, a footballer (just about) who doesn't want to play football shows him for what he is - a mercenary. Or good at getting himself a life changing contract. StevO and Matt 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post StevO Posted January 29, 2022 Popular Post Report Share Posted January 29, 2022 Not sure I would give away a couple of million if I didn’t have to. Happy to see the guy leave, but can see why he would stay. He’s got no loyalty to Everton, no duty of care to anyone other than his family. Don’t like it but that’s the game and I’m pretty sure any of us in that position would do the same. He’ll be gone in six months, not worth worrying about. And it’s not my money. Sibdane, badaids, Matt and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted January 29, 2022 Report Share Posted January 29, 2022 1 hour ago, StevO said: Not sure I would give away a couple of million if I didn’t have to. Happy to see the guy leave, but can see why he would stay. He’s got no loyalty to Everton, no duty of care to anyone other than his family. Don’t like it but that’s the game and I’m pretty sure any of us in that position would do the same. He’ll be gone in six months, not worth worrying about. And it’s not my money. It was a loan so he wouldn’t have been out of pocket. Just doesn’t want to work for a living. Hope the prick struggles to get another deal. Loads of players with more ability and work hard who won’t earn his cash. disgrace really Wiggytop, Shukes and Formby 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shukes Posted January 29, 2022 Report Share Posted January 29, 2022 He is simply happy to sit on his backside and earn money from supporters of this club. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wiggytop Posted January 29, 2022 Report Share Posted January 29, 2022 5 minutes ago, Hafnia said: It was a loan so he wouldn’t have been out of pocket. Just doesn’t want to work for a living. Hope the prick struggles to get another deal. Loads of players with more ability and work hard who won’t earn his cash. disgrace really He’s taking each and everyone of us for a ride again, how many moves has he turned down now, I really hope we start to put clauses into contracts that stop this happening, if they refuse two moves terminate. chicagoblue and Hafnia 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Zoo 2.0 Posted January 29, 2022 Popular Post Report Share Posted January 29, 2022 Amuses me how people give grief to Tosun as if they wouldn't do the exact same in his position. Sibdane, StevO, MikeO and 4 others 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted January 29, 2022 Report Share Posted January 29, 2022 47 minutes ago, Zoo 2.0 said: Amuses me how people give grief to Tosun as if they wouldn't do the exact same in his position. He’s not being put in a position where he would get less money…. He is basically being offered match time and an opportunity to put himself in shop window and the bum isn’t interested. if it was a perm deal and he would lose £££ I would understand. Absolute mercenary Gwlad 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted January 29, 2022 Report Share Posted January 29, 2022 6 minutes ago, Hafnia said: He’s not being put in a position where he would get less money…. He is basically being offered match time and an opportunity to put himself in shop window and the bum isn’t interested. if it was a perm deal and he would lose £££ I would understand. Absolute mercenary Or maybe Hull could only afford some of his wages and he'd lose bonuses? Don't know the ins and outs of his contract so can't really know. StevO and Chach 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoof_It_Nev Posted January 30, 2022 Report Share Posted January 30, 2022 Purely hypothetical but... Maybe he gives 100% in training Maybe he loves the club and really wants to play for us He did well when he first came in and maybe he's convinced he can still play with the same returns if given a lengthy run Maybe he sees the revolving door of managers and he's waiting for one to give him a chance On the outside it might look like he's a mercenary because he's not moving away, but there's always the possibility of any combination of the points above, we really don't know. Or maybe he's laughing at a company paying him millions a year to sit on his arse... Probably seems more likely after writing this Bailey and StevO 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chach Posted January 30, 2022 Report Share Posted January 30, 2022 1 hour ago, Hoof_It_Nev said: Purely hypothetical but... Maybe he gives 100% in training Maybe he loves the club and really wants to play for us He did well when he first came in and maybe he's convinced he can still play with the same returns if given a lengthy run Maybe he sees the revolving door of managers and he's waiting for one to give him a chance On the outside it might look like he's a mercenary because he's not moving away, but there's always the possibility of any combination of the points above, we really don't know. Or maybe he's laughing at a company paying him millions a year to sit on his arse... Probably seems more likely after writing this Also he has a wife and kids so maybe given he knows he off at the end of his contract guaranteed doesn't want to move twice for the sake of 6 months. *I also understand he is a symbol of our diabolical situation so can understand people being pissed off. StevO and Sibdane 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shukes Posted January 30, 2022 Report Share Posted January 30, 2022 8 hours ago, Zoo 2.0 said: Amuses me how people give grief to Tosun as if they wouldn't do the exact same in his position. I love playing football, even at 48 years old I still play. Believe me, I would rather play football and accomplish something than sit on my backside. Hafnia 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted January 30, 2022 Report Share Posted January 30, 2022 9 hours ago, Matt said: Or maybe Hull could only afford some of his wages and he'd lose bonuses? Don't know the ins and outs of his contract so can't really know. Bonuses??? He’s not playing. Bonuses are linked to playing/scoring/winning. He’s happy to pick up his £100k plus for doing fuck all. I hope the prick is banished from finch farm. These are the toxic types we need away from players. May not be trouble causers but turning up to train with no fire or desire to play. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palfy Posted January 30, 2022 Report Share Posted January 30, 2022 I’m quite happy at the outcome of this for reasons others will see as strange, for me he is a reminder to the owner and board of what can go wrong when you make poor decisions, he’s a lesson to be learned and the longer he’s here teaching them a lesson the more they might learn, don’t go over your DoF head and employ poor managers and sign even poorer players. So fair play to Tosun the more pain inflicted the better gains for the future, so carry on Tosun and teach Moshiri and his cronies to stay out team affairs. StevO 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevO Posted January 30, 2022 Report Share Posted January 30, 2022 11 hours ago, Hafnia said: It was a loan so he wouldn’t have been out of pocket. Just doesn’t want to work for a living. Hope the prick struggles to get another deal. Loads of players with more ability and work hard who won’t earn his cash. disgrace really Said it before, and no doubt will again, blame the people who gave the contract. Bailey 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevO Posted January 30, 2022 Report Share Posted January 30, 2022 11 hours ago, Wiggytop said: He’s taking each and everyone of us for a ride again, how many moves has he turned down now, I really hope we start to put clauses into contracts that stop this happening, if they refuse two moves terminate. Again, blame the people who gave him the contract. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted January 30, 2022 Report Share Posted January 30, 2022 32 minutes ago, Hafnia said: Bonuses??? He’s not playing. Bonuses are linked to playing/scoring/winning. He’s happy to pick up his £100k plus for doing fuck all. I hope the prick is banished from finch farm. These are the toxic types we need away from players. May not be trouble causers but turning up to train with no fire or desire to play. That's the usual 3 but there's others like being selected for match day squad, getting on to the pitch, loyalty bonuses for time at the club etc. Don't get me wrong, I'd prefer him gone too but it's not his fault we gave him stupid money StevO 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevO Posted January 30, 2022 Report Share Posted January 30, 2022 Maybe he thinks going into a lower league relegation battle might not be good for his career. Could get a big move back to Turkey based on his reputation, if he goes to Hull and does shit he may not get that move. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted January 30, 2022 Report Share Posted January 30, 2022 6 hours ago, Hafnia said: Bonuses??? He’s not playing. Bonuses are linked to playing/scoring/winning. He’s happy to pick up his £100k plus for doing fuck all. I hope the prick is banished from finch farm. These are the toxic types we need away from players. May not be trouble causers but turning up to train with no fire or desire to play. He can still get team bonuses too, though not sure there will be many of them still achievable! 7 hours ago, Shukes said: I love playing football, even at 48 years old I still play. Believe me, I would rather play football and accomplish something than sit on my backside. There is more to being a football player then the 90 mins on a Saturday afternoon. If I was him, I would want to show what I can do for the new manager. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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