SpartyBlue Posted July 27, 2022 Report Share Posted July 27, 2022 2 minutes ago, Shukes said: He played for Burnley mate. Iniesta would have most likely struggled for assists. It’s how many chances were created that counts. An assist is only an assist if you have a player that can put it away. I’m less worried about the raw numbers at his age since he still has plenty of time to improve anyhow. The one thing that is certain is that he’s an excellent dribbler. I wonder where Frank sees him positionally or is he a bit of a Swiss Army knife for us in attack. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shukes Posted July 27, 2022 Report Share Posted July 27, 2022 22 minutes ago, SpartyBlue said: I’m less worried about the raw numbers at his age since he still has plenty of time to improve anyhow. The one thing that is certain is that he’s an excellent dribbler. I wonder where Frank sees him positionally or is he a bit of a Swiss Army knife for us in attack. How old is he? Have no clue haha, but as we’ve been back and forth a while I imagined he is more at the back end of his career. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpartyBlue Posted July 27, 2022 Report Share Posted July 27, 2022 6 minutes ago, Shukes said: How old is he? Have no clue haha, but as we’ve been back and forth a while I imagined he is more at the back end of his career. 22 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shukes Posted July 27, 2022 Report Share Posted July 27, 2022 1 minute ago, SpartyBlue said: 22 Bloody hell really! Take back everything I thought haha! Great signing! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevO Posted July 27, 2022 Report Share Posted July 27, 2022 If he was available last summer for £15m I’d have said snap their hands off, but I didn’t see much of him last season. We need options, so as long as he’s not the only one I’ll be happy. Sibdane and Btay 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpartyBlue Posted July 27, 2022 Report Share Posted July 27, 2022 5 minutes ago, Shukes said: Bloody hell really! Take back everything I thought haha! Great signing! I thought he was more like 24,25. One would have to assume his best football is ahead of him, particular under Frank’s tutelage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted July 27, 2022 Report Share Posted July 27, 2022 Ah sound! My turn to use the phrase “you forget he’s only 22” if he shins balls out for throw ins. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted July 27, 2022 Report Share Posted July 27, 2022 13 minutes ago, StevO said: If he was available last summer for £15m I’d have said snap their hands off, but I didn’t see much of him last season. We need options, so as long as he’s not the only one I’ll be happy. By all accounts dyche had lost the squad, so it could be that a player like this lad struggled under his tactics. A bit like a load of ours under fat Sam KinL 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted July 27, 2022 Report Share Posted July 27, 2022 Mad that a lot of our fans complain about Gordon having no end product despite being younger and less experienced than McNeil, but are jumping on this as a great signing. Never change, blues, never change . KinL, StevO and Matt 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chicagoblue Posted July 27, 2022 Report Share Posted July 27, 2022 5 minutes ago, Hafnia said: By all accounts dyche had lost the squad, so it could be that a player like this lad struggled under his tactics. A bit like a load of ours under fat Sam I watched them here and there in the run in while we were in mortal danger. To me it looked like McNeil could not be arsed. Not a great sign. If we are truly at the medical stage already I hope the head shrinker is in the room. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted July 27, 2022 Report Share Posted July 27, 2022 Im a fan and the price is good too. I think he will do well here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpartyBlue Posted July 27, 2022 Report Share Posted July 27, 2022 2 minutes ago, Romey 1878 said: Mad that a lot of our fans complain about Gordon having no end product despite being younger and less experienced than McNeil, but are jumping on this as a great signing. Never change, blues, never change . To be fair Gordon does have no end product at this point but I imagine if we signed him for 15m or whatever almost everyone would love it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted July 27, 2022 Report Share Posted July 27, 2022 2 minutes ago, chicagoblue said: I watched them here and there in the run in while we were in mortal danger. To me it looked like McNeil could not be arsed. Not a great sign. If we are truly at the medical stage already I hope the head shrinker is in the room. I give all new signings the benefit of the doubt, the only concern I have is he looks like Tom Davies would be neck and neck with him over 50 yards. Technically looks a sound footballer. A potential steady 7/10 player. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpartyBlue Posted July 27, 2022 Report Share Posted July 27, 2022 1 minute ago, Hafnia said: I give all new signings the benefit of the doubt, the only concern I have is he looks like Tom Davies would be neck and neck with him over 50 yards. Technically looks a sound footballer. A potential steady 7/10 player. I agree he’s about 7/10. Which would make it a solid deal for us for that price. At his age and being coached by Frank maybe he can get to 8/10 which would make it an excellent signing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted July 27, 2022 Report Share Posted July 27, 2022 The way fans are reacting is pathetic on twitter. I’ve seen fans who objected to protests fume that we can’t pay the £17.5m to get cornet and that we had lost Richarlison….. Clearly don’t understand that the business model of our board has been the cause of this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shukes Posted July 27, 2022 Report Share Posted July 27, 2022 12 minutes ago, Romey 1878 said: Mad that a lot of our fans complain about Gordon having no end product despite being younger and less experienced than McNeil, but are jumping on this as a great signing. Never change, blues, never change . Didn’t he put do our whole team in chances created though? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shukes Posted July 27, 2022 Report Share Posted July 27, 2022 8 minutes ago, Hafnia said: I give all new signings the benefit of the doubt, the only concern I have is he looks like Tom Davies would be neck and neck with him over 50 yards. Technically looks a sound footballer. A potential steady 7/10 player. That’s +2 than our average then haha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted July 27, 2022 Report Share Posted July 27, 2022 Just now, Shukes said: That’s +2 than our average then haha Reality is we need numbers in, and with very little £££ he represents smart business. I think fans are expecting top end players and we just can’t get them. StevO, Matt and Shukes 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gwlad Posted July 27, 2022 Report Share Posted July 27, 2022 2 hours ago, MikeO said: "McNeil is now on Merseyside for a medical ahead of signing for the club, with the deal worth up to be at least, 15 million" Deal can't be both "up to" and "at least". The two contradict each other Mr Blobble. Lazy writer didn't check the post and delete 'up to' or 'to be at least'. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dunlopp9987 Posted July 27, 2022 Report Share Posted July 27, 2022 44 minutes ago, Hafnia said: I give all new signings the benefit of the doubt, the only concern I have is he looks like Tom Davies would be neck and neck with him over 50 yards. Technically looks a sound footballer. A potential steady 7/10 player. Listen, I'll bite your hand off for a squad of 7/10's right now chicagoblue 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plaidharper Posted July 27, 2022 Report Share Posted July 27, 2022 Matt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dunlopp9987 Posted July 27, 2022 Report Share Posted July 27, 2022 3 minutes ago, plaidharper said: You can't score if you don't shoot! plaidharper and Sibdane 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpartyBlue Posted July 27, 2022 Report Share Posted July 27, 2022 17 minutes ago, plaidharper said: I saw an analysis that said he took shots from farther out than any other premier league player with a decent volume. Average of 22 yards. I expect that’ll be something Frank works on. I don’t actually mind it in a young player. He’s not afraid to take a chance and try to make something happen at least. I’d rather work that than someone who is just going to pass it sideways in the attacking 3rd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Btay Posted July 27, 2022 Report Share Posted July 27, 2022 43 minutes ago, plaidharper said: Well he’s due one. I have a feeling this is the thinking behind all our scouts as well Matt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aidan Posted July 27, 2022 Author Report Share Posted July 27, 2022 Just noticed he's only failed to feature in 2 PL games in the last 3 seasons, and he's started the vast majority of those (5 appearances off the bench). I guess that's a bonus, he clearly has a natural fitness about him, far too many sick notes in our squad. dunlopp9987, chicagoblue and RuffRob 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post RuffRob Posted July 27, 2022 Popular Post Report Share Posted July 27, 2022 He can dribble at pace, he can cross the ball well, he has a good engine and is good defensively and already has plenty of Premiership experience - at 22 seems to be decent enough value at £15M and most probably reasonable wages to boot. There is room for improvement, by that's why he is an affordable £15M and not an unaffordable £30M. In 12-18months time it is the improvement or good use of these signings that Lampard and Thelwall will be judged against. I can get behind this signing much more than the grossly over paid Walcott's, Bernard's and Bolasie's of this world. Matt, Bailey, Btay and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Romey 1878 Posted July 27, 2022 Report Share Posted July 27, 2022 6 minutes ago, Aidan said: Just noticed he's only failed to feature in 2 PL games in the last 3 seasons, and he's started the vast majority of those (5 appearances off the bench). I guess that's a bonus, he clearly has a natural fitness about him, far too many sick notes in our squad. Nice one, we get to watch him play shit for a whole season . I’m joking. I don’t think he’s shit, I just don’t think he’s going to improve us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DownUnderToff Posted July 27, 2022 Report Share Posted July 27, 2022 Assuming that we'd be looking at converting him (and Cornet) to playing predominantly on the right side? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpartyBlue Posted July 27, 2022 Report Share Posted July 27, 2022 9 minutes ago, Romey 1878 said: Nice one, we get to watch him play shit for a whole season . I’m joking. I don’t think he’s shit, I just don’t think he’s going to improve us. Tarkowski is a workhorse as well. I imagine that’s been a factor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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