FairWooney Posted January 27, 2023 Report Share Posted January 27, 2023 if this was the start of the season I'd be pretty excited for seeing what Davide Ancelotti could bring. He's been highly talked of as assistant and coach to his dad and is supposed to be very smart tactically. Like Arteta, he didn't go into a high profile job with any managerial experience but had plenty working under one of the best. At this point in time it seems like a really risky move, his lack of experience in management really goes against him and i'm sure he's never seen the bottom of a league table anywhere he's been! Having worked at the club he does at least know what he's letting himself in for and unlike his dad would probably not quickly desert us. If we were relegated then he would have a chance to overhaul and change things to how he wants the team to work. He has an amazing CV for a 33 year old assistant! Bayern, Napoli, Real Madrid, PSG (fitness coach) and Everton! https://www.evertonfc.com/news/1645776/davide-ancelotti-qa-everton-has-everything-to-compete-at-the-top-level -- I'd be well up for seeing what he can do but I do think our best chance of survival is with Dyche. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted January 27, 2023 Report Share Posted January 27, 2023 Newty82, Matt, Formby and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted January 27, 2023 Report Share Posted January 27, 2023 Dyche it is I’m hearing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Newty82 Posted January 27, 2023 Report Share Posted January 27, 2023 Bielsa is the exciting, risky, yeah we're gonna see fab exciting footy appointment. Dyche is the understandable appointment given the circumstances. But like many of you have touched on, it really shows that, despite Moshiris words in that interview, we really still haven't got a system or plan in place. Two polar opposite managers being considered tells its own story This fuckin forum and these spaces...wtf?! dunlopp9987, Bailey and Matt 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newty82 Posted January 27, 2023 Report Share Posted January 27, 2023 Looks likely to be Dyche. I think the football world is a bit unfair to Dyche. Just because he's not got the smooth foreign look. He did a real good job at Burnley and only started to struggle because he had absolutely fuck all to spend. His overall net spend was about £8mill per year over 10years. Since 2019 it was £4mill. FOUR million. In the Premiership!!! You can't rejuvenate an Aging squad with that sort of money. duncanmckenzieismagic, Matt, Bailey and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patto Posted January 27, 2023 Report Share Posted January 27, 2023 5 minutes ago, RPG said: I have nothing against Dyche and think he is the more likely manager to keep us up. The problem may come next season when the board decide to sack him pre season and try to go the Hollywood manager route again. Dyche is a necessary fire fighting appointment but if he keeps us up, where does that leave us next season? Likely another manager coming in and inheriting a yet more disjointed squad of players and being told there is no money to spend. If we are getting Dyche can we at the very least give him the opportunity to build his own team! That may take a couple of seasons given the FFP restrictions we continue to face. There’s no FFP in the championship so Dyche will have plenty of support Newty82 and dunlopp9987 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted January 27, 2023 Report Share Posted January 27, 2023 Dyche will be no nonsense, he will have allies in tarkowski, Keane, mcneil. 442 will be the order of the day and he will be looking at getting another striker to play with dcl and he will demand more from dcl. His days of being a “goalscorer” will be reverted back to the player we seen before he started his “I’m not running I’ll stay and wait for the ball to get to me”. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wall Writer Posted January 27, 2023 Report Share Posted January 27, 2023 35 minutes ago, Newty82 said: Bielsa is the exciting, risky, yeah we're gonna see fab exciting footy appointment. Dyche is the understandable appointment given the circumstances. But like many of you have touched on, it really shows that, despite Moshiris words in that interview, we really still haven't got a system or plan in place. Two polar opposite managers being considered tells its own story This fuckin forum and these spaces...wtf?! I read it like you were really putting thought into what you wanted to write. Newty82 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted January 27, 2023 Report Share Posted January 27, 2023 18 minutes ago, patto said: There’s no FFP in the championship so Dyche will have plenty of support They have their own financial regulations https://www.efl.com/-more/governance/efl-rules--regulations/efl-regulations/appendix-5-financial-fair-play-regulations/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted January 27, 2023 Report Share Posted January 27, 2023 The concern for me is if bielsa has turned us down because he needs the summer is:- 1. he is a man of integrity and won’t just sign on the line for cash, it has to be right. And therefore is a great candidate who if we moved in November may have agreed to change us given the 6 weeks we had. But we allowed lampard to carry on after 2 sackable defeats. 2. He seen he needed time to change our style, we knew he needed time to change style, yet we were still trying to get him. there is a clear issue in the decision making in the club. It’s a good job bielsa is a good man. Bailey 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted January 27, 2023 Report Share Posted January 27, 2023 There are so many reasons I don't like that it's Dyche but I'm not going into them again and once he's announced he'll have my backing. I'm really excited to see what players he's allowed to bring in between now and the end of the transfer window. Sibdane and Newty82 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Formby Posted January 27, 2023 Report Share Posted January 27, 2023 1 hour ago, Newty82 said: Bielsa is the exciting, risky, yeah we're gonna see fab exciting footy appointment. Dyche is the understandable appointment given the circumstances. But like many of you have touched on, it really shows that, despite Moshiris words in that interview, we really still haven't got a system or plan in place. Two polar opposite managers being considered tells its own story This fuckin forum and these spaces...wtf?! Hopefully, Dyche's system won't allow such spaces! Newty82 and chicagoblue 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patto Posted January 27, 2023 Report Share Posted January 27, 2023 Everton players won’t like Dyche he will kick arse Burnley players didn’t particularly like him but he ruled the roost. maybe just what we need. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted January 27, 2023 Report Share Posted January 27, 2023 According to Paul Joyce Dyche is getting the job because Bielsa proposed working with the U21s until the summer . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Posted January 27, 2023 Report Share Posted January 27, 2023 I Said yesterday it would be Dyche but didn't think it would de announced till Monday, glad to see he has an extra couple of days to get things sorted. He's got some bottle to take it on with the next couple of games coming up, welcome and good look. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fosse Captain Posted January 27, 2023 Report Share Posted January 27, 2023 If it is to be Dyche then I’ll obviously back him. It’s the most uninspiring appointment since you know who. And he may well keep us up, who knows Just when I wanted a spark and something to get behind we’ve settled for something quite the opposite. Grind out results and look forward to barely staying up each season. Happy to be proved wrong of course, but someone else said, by November this forum will be flooded with complaints about the style. All a bit ‘meh’ ……… but that’s more about Everton in general than anything else I suppose Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted January 27, 2023 Report Share Posted January 27, 2023 Sensible, strict, safe. I know that's not exciting but when was the last time any of those 3 words applied to our manager? Bailey, Gwlad and Newty82 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Formby Posted January 27, 2023 Report Share Posted January 27, 2023 For me, he has a single remit: keep us up. If he does that, he'll have my full appreciation and thanks. Welcome to Everton, Mr Dyche. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fosse Captain Posted January 27, 2023 Report Share Posted January 27, 2023 20 minutes ago, Matt said: Sensible, strict, safe. I know that's not exciting but when was the last time any of those 3 words applied to our manager? Dude I get it. Just fed up with it all Could well be the right choice. I’ll back whoever comes in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted January 27, 2023 Report Share Posted January 27, 2023 According to Fabrizio Romano his contract will be until the summer of 2025. Nice little pay off in his future because he had us over a barrel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FairWooney Posted January 27, 2023 Report Share Posted January 27, 2023 On 26/01/2023 at 11:16, RuffRob said: I think its inevitable we are going to lost more that we win - it's the state of the place and the playing squad. At the moment and maybe next season as well, we need a manager who can get this team punching above out weight - as in the last 18months our weight is 'relegation battle'. He is somebody who has definitely served his time at a smaller club and earn his spurs as a Premiership manager. This probably what Lampard lacked - the hard yards behind him. https://trainingground.guru/articles/sean-dyche-building-burnley-and-beyond He talks a little about his style and tactic at about 39min. We have only really ever seen him in the Burnley dug out, so its actually very difficult to judge how he might adapt to different tactic at another club with other players. Something he will not do is put style over substance. We have to be to careful about being 'snobbish' about managers - a lot of us where very much that way with Eddie Howe. A lot of us cringe at the though of fat Sam, even though he shot us up the table in little over half a season (not that I want Sam). Ultimately Thewall has to make this decision - but I personnel don't think Dyche is as one dimensional as we may think him to be. He's just not had the opportunity yet. A good interview this. He's very straight talking, maybe a little bit of a bee in his bonnet about people having misconceptions about him but that's fair enough as we've seen it from media and now Everton fans. He will in the short term have similar constraints to at Burnley but would be interesting to see how he'd go with a bit of freedom to improve the squad. He seems pretty open to change in all areas but is pragmatic enough to know what's required to win a game when you're up against it. It might not be as exciting as Bielsa or the freshness of Davide but Dyche will get the players working, and will get the team working to their strengths (if he can find some!!). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted January 27, 2023 Report Share Posted January 27, 2023 11 minutes ago, RPG said: In many ways he is a clone of Moyes! Cos he’s ginger? In 2 years you will face a ban for that comment and be asked to explain yourself to the authorities . Shame on you. Matt and AlbanyNYToffee 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted January 27, 2023 Report Share Posted January 27, 2023 He will keep us up. He will change the culture of the club and sort these egos out. He’s got a personality about him so he’s not gonna get eye rolls like Rafa and he isn’t soft. he understands his own perception which not many managers do. Newty82 and Matt 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newty82 Posted January 27, 2023 Report Share Posted January 27, 2023 Good interview that. I've always liked Dyche as a bloke. Proper Northern lad. Maybe he did what he had to with Burnley in terms of playing style etc. The media do tend to tarnish people in our minds. We've tried everything else from champagne to gravy. Maybe a bit of fizzy pop will do the trick. AlbanyNYToffee 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wall Writer Posted January 27, 2023 Report Share Posted January 27, 2023 Not expecting any official announcement till about next Tuesday...that's the Everton way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FairWooney Posted January 27, 2023 Report Share Posted January 27, 2023 16 minutes ago, Wall Writer said: Not expecting any official announcement till about next Tuesday...that's the Everton way. Probably after they've posted training pics with him and his staff already working! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RuffRob Posted January 27, 2023 Report Share Posted January 27, 2023 On 23/01/2023 at 13:15, RuffRob said: We all know Dyche is probably the leading candidate for the situation we see ourselves in. Just get it done once the decision to remove Frank has been made public. He is available, has bags of experience punching above he weight in the Premier league. My guess his 'brand' of football at Burnley is needs must in getting as many points on the board as you can type football - as opposed to a preferred style. I feel we have more than the next 4 month being relegation candidates (if we do survive). Next season will be much the same. Dyche kind of deserves a chance at another Premiership club, I though his sacking was harsh last season, given the tools he had a Burnley season after season. He might not be top of everybody's list and is not glamorous, but might be the type of manager who can get the best out of what he's got - average Premiership players. I think most people 'thumb up' this comment. Think we all guessed it was kind of inevitable really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoof_It_Nev Posted January 27, 2023 Report Share Posted January 27, 2023 I'm sure this has already been posted somewhere: Seems like a genuine, very knowledgeable guy. Everything he is saying is based on facts and experience, he's realistic and very down to earth. Quite happy to see us switch to a 4-4-2 if its easier for the players to become organised and get used to quickly. KinL, StevO and Bailey 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gwlad Posted January 27, 2023 Report Share Posted January 27, 2023 Whoever it is, days have been wasted with transfer window rapidly closing. Bailey 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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