Goodison Glory Posted January 26, 2023 Report Share Posted January 26, 2023 17 minutes ago, patto said: I don’t think we can talk about style until we are safe if we go down then we have a complete reset. Another reset. An annual event with us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted January 26, 2023 Report Share Posted January 26, 2023 2 minutes ago, patto said: I think Dyche will be in place by the weekend we can’t possibly go for Bielsa it would cause massive problems with the language barrier He can speak English well, he just doesn't like conducting interviews in English. StevO 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patto Posted January 26, 2023 Report Share Posted January 26, 2023 1 minute ago, Goodison Glory said: Another reset. An annual event with us. It is what it is we don’t have many options time is running out. Goodison Glory 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patto Posted January 26, 2023 Report Share Posted January 26, 2023 1 minute ago, Romey 1878 said: He can speak English well, he just doesn't like conducting interviews in English. If so that’s a bit weird but I don’t expect to see him as our manager Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted January 26, 2023 Report Share Posted January 26, 2023 8 minutes ago, patto said: If so that’s a bit weird but I don’t expect to see him as our manager Pochettino did the same thing. It's because the media twist things and with English not being their first language they could use a slightly incorrect word and it be made into a story. Fosse Captain and StevO 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patto Posted January 26, 2023 Report Share Posted January 26, 2023 18 minutes ago, Romey 1878 said: Pochettino did the same thing. It's because the media twist things and with English not being their first language they could use a slightly incorrect word and it be made into a story. How do you feel about Coady do you want him. I personally think we need to send him back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Romey 1878 Posted January 26, 2023 Popular Post Report Share Posted January 26, 2023 6 minutes ago, patto said: How do you feel about Coady do you want him. I personally think we need to send him back. That's one hell of a pivot to the discussion. I didn't want him in the first place, so no. Btay, Newty82, Bailey and 3 others 1 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patto Posted January 26, 2023 Report Share Posted January 26, 2023 2 minutes ago, Romey 1878 said: That's one hell of a pivot to the discussion. I didn't want him in the first place, so no. Sorry about the change of direction but I see changes when Dyche comes in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patto Posted January 26, 2023 Report Share Posted January 26, 2023 7 minutes ago, RPG said: If he comes in I think it will be 4-4-2 or even 4-5-1 and he will go for experience/workrate/reliability over flash in the pan which could be bad news for Gray. I can see us lining up something like: Pickford Coleman Keane Tarkowski Mykolenko Gueye Iwobi Doucoure Onana McNeil DCL Obviously, if we sign Messi and Mbappe in the next week we would squeeze them in somewhere! A decent side I’d like to see us go for Jack Harrison to start the ball rolling Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted January 26, 2023 Report Share Posted January 26, 2023 Not one other club that sacked their manager for fear of relegation went near Dyche as their next manager. That should set alarm bells ringing. I just don't think he's going to help at all, but I don't think anyone will because we're not likely to strengthen in the transfer market. Fosse Captain 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patto Posted January 26, 2023 Report Share Posted January 26, 2023 4 minutes ago, Romey 1878 said: Not one other club that sacked their manager for fear of relegation went near Dyche as their next manager. That should set alarm bells ringing. I just don't think he's going to help at all, but I don't think anyone will because we're not likely to strengthen in the transfer market. We’ve got no option but to strengthen if we are to escape the drop I’m not sure we escape but we have to give it a go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted January 26, 2023 Report Share Posted January 26, 2023 Bielsa is off to London to have further talks….. basically if he agrees then it’s because he thinks he can do something with the team/targets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patto Posted January 26, 2023 Report Share Posted January 26, 2023 1 hour ago, Hafnia said: Bielsa is off to London to have further talks….. basically if he agrees then it’s because he thinks he can do something with the team/targets. If he’s travelling to London he must want the job. StevO and chicagoblue 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted January 26, 2023 Report Share Posted January 26, 2023 6 minutes ago, patto said: If he’s travelling to London he must want the job. I think he wants it - but he wants clarity that we are in a place for him to be able to do something with us. If it’s not right he will walk away. He’s done it before at lazio dunlopp9987 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patto Posted January 26, 2023 Report Share Posted January 26, 2023 21 minutes ago, Hafnia said: I think he wants it - but he wants clarity that we are in a place for him to be able to do something with us. If it’s not right he will walk away. He’s done it before at lazio I’m not sure who I want I didn’t want Dyche but he is probably the best fit out the 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted January 26, 2023 Report Share Posted January 26, 2023 https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/everton-new-manager-live-dyche-26074372 "Davide Ancelotti has shot into the top half of the bookmakers odds to succeed Frank Lampard." Left field Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chicagoblue Posted January 26, 2023 Report Share Posted January 26, 2023 59 minutes ago, MikeO said: https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/everton-new-manager-live-dyche-26074372 "Davide Ancelotti has shot into the top half of the bookmakers odds to succeed Frank Lampard." Left field Only if we get to take two picks from Real Madrid MikeO, Matt and dunlopp9987 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post duncanmckenzieismagic Posted January 26, 2023 Popular Post Report Share Posted January 26, 2023 I think people are being a little over critical of Dyche. He built a decent side on a shoe string budget then worked miracles making them an established Premiership side. Maybe he set his side up to be hard to beat because he had to play the best hand from the cards he was dealt Everyone seems to think his sides can’t play expansive football but I remember them absolutely playing us off the park at Goodison Not saying he would be my preferred choice but I do think he is a lot better than people are giving him credit for dunlopp9987, KinL, London Blue and 5 others 7 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncanmckenzieismagic Posted January 26, 2023 Report Share Posted January 26, 2023 https://www.goodisonnews.com/2023/01/26/everton-short-term-contract-on-cards-as-toffees-manager-talks-continue/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c1982 Posted January 26, 2023 Report Share Posted January 26, 2023 2 hours ago, MikeO said: https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/everton-new-manager-live-dyche-26074372 "Davide Ancelotti has shot into the top half of the bookmakers odds to succeed Frank Lampard." Left field This is an appointment that I’d get fully behind - is now the right time? Probably not… but at least it’s a ‘project manager’. The way I see it is Bielsa would start a project and give us an opportunity to build an identity that the fans would get behind but we’d probably be looking to replace him in the next year or 2 with his age - there’s plenty who have adopted his blueprint so they’d be continuity. Coberan (WBA) would probably be someone we keep an eye on because of this. Davide Ancelotti is an excellent coach and it would take time and support but I think he’d be great - he’s got decent links in the game too… he could be our ‘Arteta type’ appointment. He’ll already have relationships with some of the players too. Dyche, as much as I think he’d keep us up, seems very short-term. 1 step forward, 2 steps back again. Marcelino - I don’t know a lot about him but sometimes the unknown is much more exciting and it would seem very much like a Thelwell appointment - if so, you’d think there’s a long term plan. Moyes, Allardyce, Dyche and Hassenhutl just stink of the mistakes we’ve been making since Moshiri’s been here - many would put Bielsa in the same group but I just think the man’s an incredible character who would shake things up (needed) while giving us an identity (needed) which the fans can get behind. Sibdane, London Blue and Romey 1878 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted January 26, 2023 Report Share Posted January 26, 2023 The Ancelotti talk seems to be gathering a lot of pace tonight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zoo 2.0 Posted January 26, 2023 Report Share Posted January 26, 2023 I think Carlo would surely be in his son's ear advising him against it - surely you want to be starting your career anywhere but Everton. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BedfordBlue Posted January 26, 2023 Report Share Posted January 26, 2023 13 minutes ago, Romey 1878 said: The Ancelotti talk seems to be gathering a lot of pace tonight. Not seen him in any off the betting I've looked at Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c1982 Posted January 26, 2023 Report Share Posted January 26, 2023 We were pretty much best (if not the best) in the league when defending set-pieces with Ancelotti in charge and that came from Davide. Was also in charge of coaching defensive shape supposedly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted January 26, 2023 Report Share Posted January 26, 2023 7 minutes ago, BedfordBlue said: Not seen him in any off the betting I've looked at Betfair... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BedfordBlue Posted January 26, 2023 Report Share Posted January 26, 2023 22 minutes ago, MikeO said: Betfair... Odds checker doesn't have him in the betting at all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted January 26, 2023 Report Share Posted January 26, 2023 10 hours ago, Romey 1878 said: The way I see it is that absolutely nothing will change with Dyche in charge. We're a side that don't create enough and don't score enough, so getting a manager in that doesn't get his side to create much or score much is just keeping the status quo. If you're expecting Dyche to come in and for things to be any different then you're mad. We might not get twatted by 4 all that often but we'll still lose a lot more than we'll win. There is seeing more of McNeil to look forward to though, so there's that. Dyche dropped McNeil from the first 11 in his last season so dont be so sure of that! 9 hours ago, Hafnia said: Not sure how it can be between bielsa and dyche from a logical sense…… if our supposed plan is of a certain footballing style then the two managers couldn’t be more different. This. Our interest (in Dyche) could just be media BS but they are chalk and cheese. Saying that Lampard and Bielsa are completely different too. I feel like Mohsiri is after another superstar manager. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted January 26, 2023 Report Share Posted January 26, 2023 4 minutes ago, Bailey said: Dyche dropped McNeil from the first 11 in his last season so dont be so sure of that! I was only saying it tongue in cheek anyway. I'd love to not have him in the squad but with Gordon off there's no hope of that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wall Writer Posted January 27, 2023 Report Share Posted January 27, 2023 If it ends up being Dyche, this vid might provide some insight into his MO. https://youtu.be/o3YY7PY-IH0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevO Posted January 27, 2023 Report Share Posted January 27, 2023 1 hour ago, Wall Writer said: If it ends up being Dyche, this vid might provide some insight into his MO. https://youtu.be/o3YY7PY-IH0 I watched that one last night. He’s not exciting, but at least he has a plan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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