Romey 1878 Posted August 18, 2022 Report Share Posted August 18, 2022 This is the first meeting between Everton and Nottingham Forest since January 1999 in the Premier League, when Forest won 1-0 Goodison Park. Everton have kept six clean sheets in their 10 Premier League games against Nottingham Forest, their highest percentage (60%) against any opponent they’ve faced 10+ times in the competition. Nottingham Forest have faced more shots (42) and have the highest expected goals against tally (4.03) in the Premier League so far this season. Everton have lost both their Premier League games so far this season, but haven’t lost each of their opening three matches in a league campaign since 1990-91. Taiwo Awoniyi scored Nottingham Forest’s winner against West Ham in his first ever Premier League start. The only player to score in his first two Premier Premier League starts for the club is Stan Collymore, in August 1994. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted August 18, 2022 Report Share Posted August 18, 2022 They are definitely vulnerable at the back. They sit really deep and they leave lots of gaps for a good team to play, keep the ball and build pressure. They do look a bit of a handful on the counter and from set plays too. They remind me a little of Watford from the last couple of seasons. They are quite a big side, they have some decent attacking talent and they will try and get in behind. Awoniyi will cause our CBs lots of problems if we try and press up the pitch because he is quick and strong and looks to get in behind all the time. We need to stay focussed on stopping the counter and dont let the likes of Williams and Johnson have time on the ball to get their head up and play him in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Btay Posted August 18, 2022 Report Share Posted August 18, 2022 1 hour ago, Bailey said: They are definitely vulnerable at the back. They sit really deep and they leave lots of gaps for a good team to play, keep the ball and build pressure. They do look a bit of a handful on the counter and from set plays too. They remind me a little of Watford from the last couple of seasons. They are quite a big side, they have some decent attacking talent and they will try and get in behind. Awoniyi will cause our CBs lots of problems if we try and press up the pitch because he is quick and strong and looks to get in behind all the time. We need to stay focussed on stopping the counter and dont let the likes of Williams and Johnson have time on the ball to get their head up and play him in. Well that’s us fucked then. We need 3 points here though. Bring Onana straight in and just hope we can finally find some sort of spark in the final third here. I would be tempted to play Vinagre over Myko for this one as well. badaids and Bailey 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FairWooney Posted August 18, 2022 Report Share Posted August 18, 2022 Pickford Patterson Tarkowski Coady Holage Mykolenko/Vinagre Onana Iwobi Gordon Rondon Gray Not ideal to have Iwobi in there alongside Onana but that's the best we have at the moment. Where he was sent on to make something happen last time, starting he needs to have the discipline to stay more around the middle and know when to push forward. McNeil looks like he's struggled a bit so far so i'd go with Gray and if Gordon isn't busy searching for houses in London then he should start along with Rondon who can be a good focal point and give their defence some problems and looking to get one whatever the wing backs throw in. Fingers cross we get it right and take 3 much needed points. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plaidharper Posted August 18, 2022 Report Share Posted August 18, 2022 We are at home and Forest will sit back. Need to get at them so I would sacrifice a CB. I would pay 4-5-1. Pickford Patterson Holgate Tarkowski Mykolenko Gray Iwobi Allan Onana Gordon Rondon He won't pick Allan so it would have to be Davies but he won't go four at the back so my suggestion will never happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted August 18, 2022 Author Report Share Posted August 18, 2022 6 minutes ago, plaidharper said: We are at home and Forest will sit back. I bet they don't. They'll be smelling blood and rightly so because we're there for the taking. Matt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dunlopp9987 Posted August 18, 2022 Report Share Posted August 18, 2022 16 minutes ago, Romey 1878 said: I bet they don't. They'll be smelling blood and rightly so because we're there for the taking. I actually think them winning over the weekend was the best possible outcome for us. Hope they have a little slump post-first victory back in the prem. How depressing that I'm having to find reasons why we might be able to beat a newly promoted side. We really are shit aren't we Romey 1878 and RuffRob 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RuffRob Posted August 18, 2022 Report Share Posted August 18, 2022 2 hours ago, dunlopp9987 said: I actually think them winning over the weekend was the best possible outcome for us. Hope they have a little slump post-first victory back in the prem. How depressing that I'm having to find reasons why we might be able to beat a newly promoted side. We really are shit aren't we I know what you mean - it's horrible looking at the fixture list and thinking every single game looks tough!! Pickford Coady Holgate Tarkowski Patterson Iwobi Davies Mykolenko Mc Neil Gordon Rondon more of a back three than back five in this game with Patterson and Mykolenko further up the pitch. Think this would be a good game for McNeil - hopefully a bit further forward and seeing more of the ball around there their box. Think McNeil could open things up more than Grey. Potentially, Onana in for Davies if Frank feels he is ready to start - but its maybe a little too early for him to run the middle of the park for us and I think Onana could be massive impact of the bench after 60mins or so - just like we saw at the weekend. He can study the match and its overall pace a bit before he gets on the pitch. I will simply take any sort of a win. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wall Writer Posted August 18, 2022 Report Share Posted August 18, 2022 32 minutes ago, RuffRob said: Pickford Coady Holgate Tarkowski Patterson Iwobi Davies Mykolenko Mc Neil Gordon Rondon I think Rondon has to start. I'd go with Onana in place of Davies from the off though. And I'd maybe even like to see Dele in for maybe McNeil, just to see whether he really has fallen off the cliff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RuffRob Posted August 18, 2022 Report Share Posted August 18, 2022 4 minutes ago, Wall Writer said: I think London has to start. I'd go with Onana in place of Davies from the off though. And I'd maybe even like to see Dele in for maybe McNeil, just to see whether he really has fallen off the cliff. If it wasn't obvious last season and beginning of this that Lampard does either rate or trust Alli, then this weeks event leave no room for doubt. It becoming obvious to me that Alli is no way a Lampard signing. I want to see the likes of McNeil building those partnerships with Patterson etc. The more they player together the quicker it will begin to gel. Goodison Glory, Wiggytop and Matt 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wall Writer Posted August 18, 2022 Report Share Posted August 18, 2022 I suspect you may be right. It's just I'd like to see it with my own eyes on the pitch. I want him to do well, cos there is a player in there, and it's a shame to see that go to waste. I think Forest are due a loss and we are due a win, they are not a team with oodles of quality,they are just running on that newly promoted bounce. I would take that risk right now. And if it's obvious he's not up for it, then be on the phone to Besiktas straight after the match. Having said that, FL sees him everyday, and maybe he already knows. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted August 18, 2022 Author Report Share Posted August 18, 2022 Due a loss like they haven’t lost a game for ages… they lost their first game of the season . I love how desperately we look for reasons why we can win . Wall Writer 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
London Blue Posted August 18, 2022 Report Share Posted August 18, 2022 Pickford Tark, Holgate, Coady Patterson Myk Onana Iwobi Gordon Rondon Grey Holgate pushing up into midfield. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patto Posted August 19, 2022 Report Share Posted August 19, 2022 28 minutes ago, RPG said: I think a low scoring draw or an unflattering win is in order. Pickford Holgate Coady Tarkowski Patterson Onana Iwobi Mykolenko/Vinagre Gordon/Gray Rondon McNeil Probably have to sub Rondon at half time if he's goosed but I think he has to start. Give me a unflattering win every time it seems like we are back in a relegation fight and we’ve only played 2 games Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palfy Posted August 19, 2022 Report Share Posted August 19, 2022 7 hours ago, RPG said: I think a low scoring draw or an unflattering win is in order. Pickford Holgate Coady Tarkowski Patterson Onana Iwobi Mykolenko/Vinagre Gordon/Gray Rondon McNeil Probably have to sub Rondon at half time if he's goosed but I think he has to start. Wouldn’t go with McNeil he’s been embarrassingly shite the last 2 games. Goodison Glory 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goodison Glory Posted August 19, 2022 Report Share Posted August 19, 2022 2 hours ago, Palfy said: Wouldn’t go with McNeil he’s been embarrassingly shite the last 2 games. I know after the KIEV game he has to be the most disappointing so far. Demari is not far behind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palfy Posted August 19, 2022 Report Share Posted August 19, 2022 10 minutes ago, Goodison Glory said: I know after the KIEV game he has to be the most disappointing so far. Demari is not far behind. But unfortunately a slight improvement on McNeil. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted August 19, 2022 Report Share Posted August 19, 2022 I don't think its a surprise that the front three have all been shit. If one had been shit and the others great I would be more concerned. How we have been playing just isn't particularly condusive to decent attacking play. Btay and badaids 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elston Gunnn Posted August 19, 2022 Report Share Posted August 19, 2022 Already, on the eve of just our 3d match, we got too many injuries. And tomorrow is the first of 4 matches in just 11 days, 5 in 15. Blecchhh. Surely have to see some rotation for Fleetwood Town next week (Allan, Keane, Davies, Coleman, Vinagre, others?). Dele tomorrow? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Btay Posted August 19, 2022 Report Share Posted August 19, 2022 9 hours ago, RPG said: The obvious alternative would be a front three of Gordon, Rondon and Gray with McNeil on the bench. Either works for me. Having just seen Frank's pre match interview I think it's fair to say that if Onana is fit he will start but that he may benefit from another week of training to get fully up to speed. So 50/50 whether he starts or not I think. I hope Onana starts, even if it’s just 60 minutes. We have 5 subs so there’s relatively no risk in a double change at the hour mark of the game to inject some energy into midfield and another winger if need be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Matt Posted August 20, 2022 Report Share Posted August 20, 2022 Disappointed Onananananna isn't starting. badaids 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milesey05 Posted August 20, 2022 Report Share Posted August 20, 2022 Massive hint of a Championship side starting 11. hopefully it can do the job needed! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goodison Glory Posted August 20, 2022 Report Share Posted August 20, 2022 So which of Lingaard, MGW or Dennis is gonna score against us!! badaids and Matt 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badaids Posted August 20, 2022 Report Share Posted August 20, 2022 The pressure is on us, not on them and they will know it. They’ll keep it tight and come at us. We’ll need to show character and strength, especially if they go ahead. But we can do this COYB! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badaids Posted August 20, 2022 Report Share Posted August 20, 2022 Worried about that midfield - looks ripe for getting turned over. Gbamin on the bench too. Matt and Aidan 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted August 20, 2022 Report Share Posted August 20, 2022 A 50% fit Onana is still going to offer more than Davies. Please dont let us be counter attacked. badaids 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted August 20, 2022 Report Share Posted August 20, 2022 Gordon starting must be a positive for his chances of staying though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted August 20, 2022 Report Share Posted August 20, 2022 1 minute ago, Bailey said: Gordon starting must be a positive for his chances of staying though. Or an opportunity to put his price up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msloan78 Posted August 20, 2022 Report Share Posted August 20, 2022 Dele on the bench too. What does that mean for his potential move, or are we just that light on bodies... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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