patto Posted August 22, 2023 Report Share Posted August 22, 2023 10 minutes ago, Matt Tiger said: Didn’t they not spend until last season? And most of the signings likely had 3 or 4 year contracts, so the ramifications of those signings likely won’t be known for a few years. We are currently dealing with the ramifications of being a dumpster fire for years now. There’s a difference. I thought FFP was based on a 3 year period hence we have spent very little in the last 2 years. it seems everyone wants us punished. I urge evertonians to not read buy the daily mail they seem to have an agenda against us. Shukes and Matt 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted August 22, 2023 Report Share Posted August 22, 2023 34 minutes ago, patto said: I thought FFP was based on a 3 year period hence we have spent very little in the last 2 years. it seems everyone wants us punished. I urge evertonians to not read buy the daily mail they seem to have an agenda against us. It’s not on spend it’s about losses, we are so shite that we don’t need to spend much to be at a loss Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted August 22, 2023 Author Report Share Posted August 22, 2023 8 minutes ago, Hafnia said: It’s not on spend it’s about losses, we are so shite that we don’t need to spend much to be at a loss Pretty sure we were in the black the last 2 years Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted August 22, 2023 Report Share Posted August 22, 2023 3 minutes ago, Matt said: Pretty sure we were in the black the last 2 years We've made losses but they've not been as big as in the past, as far as I can remember. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patto Posted August 22, 2023 Report Share Posted August 22, 2023 Have we not just received 200m off tv and premier league Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted August 22, 2023 Author Report Share Posted August 22, 2023 41 minutes ago, Romey 1878 said: We've made losses but they've not been as big as in the past, as far as I can remember. Apparently so. Not sure where I read it, I remember being really surprised Romey 1878 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newty82 Posted August 22, 2023 Report Share Posted August 22, 2023 20 hours ago, Zoo 2.0 said: Nonsense. Gnonto shouldn't have signed such a long term deal if he had no intention of seeing it through. It's not nonsense at all. It's my opinion on a subject that has no definitive right or wrong. The length of the contract allows Leeds to command a higher fee. Should he have just signed on a year by year basis?! Most likely Gnotto is being poorly represented. He's 19. How many of us knew what we really wanted at that age? And, if I'm honest, the whole thing does put me off wanting him a bit because it does make me a bit wary of him or who's around him. We've enough trouble at the moment. Shukes 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newty82 Posted August 22, 2023 Report Share Posted August 22, 2023 20 hours ago, Palfy said: Or bite someone that’s worked a few times for Suarez. A contract should represent the best interests of both parties, and if one side wants to break that contract then it should only be if both parties are in agreement. Leeds have said we don’t want to sell that’s their right, he signed of his own free will and had no options to dissolve his contract if someone offered a certain amount or if they were relegated, he has the right to hand in a written transfer request, but he has no right to expect Leeds to agree to it. It's pointless keeping hold of someone who doesn't want to be there Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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dunlopp9987 Posted August 22, 2023 Report Share Posted August 22, 2023 Time to move on Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patto Posted August 22, 2023 Report Share Posted August 22, 2023 12 minutes ago, dunlopp9987 said: Time to move on 9 days to sort things out now any normal team that’s plenty Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palfy Posted August 22, 2023 Report Share Posted August 22, 2023 37 minutes ago, Newty82 said: It's pointless keeping hold of someone who doesn't want to be there Looks like they have and as I thought he has back tracked otherwise they have the power to put his career pretty much on hold. But we can’t have players who decide they can get a better option elsewhere forcing clubs to sell them even though they still have a long time left on their contract, as much as clubs can’t sell a player to a club he doesn’t want to go to. So again fair play to Leeds for sticking to their guns. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted August 22, 2023 Author Report Share Posted August 22, 2023 If he moves they've sold their entire attacking midfield options right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevO Posted August 22, 2023 Report Share Posted August 22, 2023 2 hours ago, patto said: Have we not just received 200m off tv and premier league Just like every other year, and it gets swallowed up by our ridiculous expenses. chicagoblue 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goodison Glory Posted August 22, 2023 Report Share Posted August 22, 2023 4 hours ago, Romey 1878 said: We've made losses but they've not been as big as in the past, as far as I can remember. The reports I read were (approx) 45M Loss 21-22 (fact), with an estimated break-even for 22-23 (won't be reported for a while yet. So if we have a decent/frugal year this year we could be looking very healthy next year (from an FFP standpoint). Although we lost 45M that was better than the 120M the year prior. So currently it is (120M) + (45M) +projected (0M)....so still in the shit. But next year it should be way better (high earners ditched, some income from Gordon/Moise etc) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goodison Glory Posted August 22, 2023 Report Share Posted August 22, 2023 5 hours ago, Matt Tiger said: Didn’t they not spend until last season? And most of the signings likely had 3 or 4 year contracts, so the ramifications of those signings likely won’t be known for a few years. We are currently dealing with the ramifications of being a dumpster fire for years now. There’s a difference. Correct. They spent next to nothing (net spend) when in Championship then had a net spend of 195M last year...LOL. So they need to reign it in or technically they should be fucked with FFP next year. That said, it's about losses not spend, so perhaps the promotion to the prem and possible hike in season ticket sales/volume plus TV money has helped offset. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Goodison Glory Posted August 22, 2023 Popular Post Report Share Posted August 22, 2023 23 hours ago, Zoo 2.0 said: Nonsense. Gnonto shouldn't have signed such a long term deal if he had no intention of seeing it through. By this rationale, you are saying clubs have no right in trying to sell players during their contract term either. The reality is, it has to be a mutual agreement in both cases. And in both scenarios the other party will do what they can to force the move. Player - he refuses to play, hands in transfer request etc Club - If they want to sell someone and that person doesn't want to go - they probably don't pick them or perhaps make them train with reserves. Both sides of these situations (not just the Gnonto one) are trying to manipulate the situation to get the outcome they want. chicagoblue, Sibdane, Shukes and 6 others 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chicagoblue Posted August 22, 2023 Report Share Posted August 22, 2023 In any normal contract situation either party could choose to rescind the contract and be liable in damages. That's a pretty high stakes move though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shukes Posted August 22, 2023 Report Share Posted August 22, 2023 40 minutes ago, Goodison Glory said: By this rationale, you are saying clubs have no right in trying to sell players during their contract term either. The reality is, it has to be a mutual agreement in both cases. And in both scenarios the other party will do what they can to force the move. Player - he refuses to play, hands in transfer request etc Club - If they want to sell someone and that person doesn't want to go - they probably don't pick them or perhaps make them train with reserves. Both sides of these situations (not just the Gnonto one) are trying to manipulate the situation to get the outcome they want. Best post on the subject yet. Goodison Glory 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c1982 Posted August 22, 2023 Report Share Posted August 22, 2023 3 hours ago, Romey 1878 said: Dick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goodison Glory Posted August 22, 2023 Report Share Posted August 22, 2023 Okay, let's move on. I'd have loved to have had an exciting young talent primed to burst into the Italy National Team (deja vu) but lets shore up other areas and hope Danjuma/Harrison/McNeil can provide the creativity we need Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted August 22, 2023 Report Share Posted August 22, 2023 2 hours ago, c1982 said: Dick I’ve been called worse. Matt, Palfy and Newty82 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted August 24, 2023 Author Report Share Posted August 24, 2023 https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/66600463 Dead in the water or fishing for more? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dunlopp9987 Posted August 24, 2023 Report Share Posted August 24, 2023 10 minutes ago, Matt said: https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/66600463 Dead in the water or fishing for more? Dead as Luca Brasi. Time to move on. (sorry I've just done a rewatch of the godfather trilogy so every reference henceforth will be related) Matt and MikeO 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevO Posted August 24, 2023 Report Share Posted August 24, 2023 No third chance? Just needs to skip this weekends game and we sign him on Monday. Winner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newty82 Posted August 25, 2023 Report Share Posted August 25, 2023 8 hours ago, StevO said: No third chance? Just needs to skip this weekends game and we sign him on Monday. Winner. The brown envelope is on its way to him... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncanmckenzieismagic Posted August 31, 2023 Report Share Posted August 31, 2023 https://x.com/jac_talbot/status/1697261998340518240?s=46&t=1wM_xvx1NFbXaZSqIaj30A dunlopp9987 and Romey 1878 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dunlopp9987 Posted August 31, 2023 Report Share Posted August 31, 2023 18 minutes ago, duncanmckenzieismagic said: https://x.com/jac_talbot/status/1697261998340518240?s=46&t=1wM_xvx1NFbXaZSqIaj30A That's cute Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shukes Posted August 31, 2023 Report Share Posted August 31, 2023 Watched him last night and lost interest to be honest. He just didn’t look that good. 25m seemed a lot. Wiggytop 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patto Posted August 31, 2023 Report Share Posted August 31, 2023 38 minutes ago, Shukes said: Watched him last night and lost interest to be honest. He just didn’t look that good. 25m seemed a lot. I’d rather have Sulamana Shukes and Wiggytop 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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