Shukes Posted September 27, 2017 Report Share Posted September 27, 2017 1 hour ago, Newty82 said: It's Ok, Cavani's wife says she love the city! Now that we would be nice. Cavani's wife to living in the city and coming to Goodison. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted September 27, 2017 Report Share Posted September 27, 2017 42 minutes ago, Shukes said: Problem is that's what he was brought for wasn't it. I don't think we would have spent 45m on a set piece specialist when we don't have a target man. i really think RK thought he was a Barkley upgrade. If that was ever the plan the Koeman needs sacking pronto! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c1982 Posted September 28, 2017 Report Share Posted September 28, 2017 I really don't understand why we bought him. Hope I'm proved wrong but I really don't get it. Romey 1878 and pete0 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lowensda Posted September 28, 2017 Report Share Posted September 28, 2017 Not the only one mate. Although many predicted it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c1982 Posted September 28, 2017 Report Share Posted September 28, 2017 4 minutes ago, Lowensda said: Not the only one mate. Although many predicted it. I was one - happy to sign him as he's a quality player but clearly not what we need/needed. £45m worth of wingers, even with the other players we have, could have been much wiser acusitions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
London Blue Posted September 28, 2017 Report Share Posted September 28, 2017 44 minutes ago, c1982 said: I was one - happy to sign him as he's a quality player but clearly not what we need/needed. £45m worth of wingers, even with the other players we have, could have been much wiser acusitions. We have Bolasie, Lookman, Vlasic and Mirallas to be wingers. Siggy is is similar to Rooney with clever passes, and creativity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted September 28, 2017 Report Share Posted September 28, 2017 1 is crocked, 1 isnt good enough and 1 that has been marginalised. The other wasnt signed when we bought Siggy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
London Blue Posted September 28, 2017 Report Share Posted September 28, 2017 1 minute ago, Bailey said: 1 is crocked, 1 isnt good enough and 1 that has been marginalised. The other wasnt signed when we bought Siggy. Bolasie will be back in a couple of months, Lookman and Vlasic will be great, but yep Mirallas is not good enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted September 28, 2017 Report Share Posted September 28, 2017 I don't get it. I've never got it. It's not looking like it's going to change. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted September 29, 2017 Report Share Posted September 29, 2017 He was signed for this workrate (which is aimless at the moment) and his deadball ability, which is pointless when there's no fucking striker to hit. We'll see the best out of him IF we actually sign a forward and play him centrally. Otherwise his talent is a complete waste. Sibdane 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EFC-Paul Posted September 29, 2017 Report Share Posted September 29, 2017 The lad is being restricted in this set up, he's not given the creative freedom in this fruitless set up he was at Swansea He's a proven player who will come good with a handful of the other lads if given the right platform markjazzbassist and Matt 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted September 29, 2017 Report Share Posted September 29, 2017 1 hour ago, EFC-Paul said: The lad is being restricted in this set up, he's not given the creative freedom in this fruitless set up he was at Swansea He's a proven player who will come good with a handful of the other lads if given the right platform rooney is stealing his spots. either bench rooney or tell him to stay up top and never go past the half way line. Rooney thinks he's messi but he's not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC11 Posted October 1, 2017 Report Share Posted October 1, 2017 Paying £45m for Sigurdsson was a crime. Shukes 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete0 Posted October 1, 2017 Report Share Posted October 1, 2017 12 minutes ago, MC11 said: Paying £45m for Sigurdsson was a crime. Seems fitting that him missing two sitters today could be the boot that kicks Koeman out the door. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quinn31 Posted October 1, 2017 Report Share Posted October 1, 2017 Sigurdsson will come good. There's a player in there. markjazzbassist 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nogs Posted October 1, 2017 Report Share Posted October 1, 2017 1 minute ago, Quinn31 said: Sigurdsson will come good. There's a player in there. So why don't people give Barkley the same benefit, who is five years younger? Bailey and Shukes 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quinn31 Posted October 1, 2017 Report Share Posted October 1, 2017 Just now, nogs said: So why don't people give Barkley the same benefit, who is five years younger? Didn't say anything about Barkley. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nogs Posted October 1, 2017 Report Share Posted October 1, 2017 Just now, Quinn31 said: Didn't say anything about Barkley. No I'm not saying you did. Just making the point that people seem willing to forgive far worse performances from some of our latest signings than what Barkley was getting shut for last season Shukes 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quinn31 Posted October 1, 2017 Report Share Posted October 1, 2017 Just now, nogs said: No I'm not saying you did. Just making the point that people seem willing to forgive far worse performances from some of our latest signings than what Barkley was getting shut for last season Let me make that argument for the argument's sake: Sigurdsson has played how many matches for Everton? 7? He didn't get a full preseason is and is probably still trying to get up to full match fitness. Barkley has played 180 matches for Everton. I think the problem with Barkley lies in his decision making, not his technical ability. Will that improve or is he just never going to be able to make those key decision of pass vs shoot vs dribble? Believe me, I want to see Barkley come back and fight for the shirt. We are missing his creative spark, even if he can be quite wasteful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted October 1, 2017 Report Share Posted October 1, 2017 I was expecting quality from Siggurdson but I haven't really seen it yet. He can get himself into some decent positions but he doesn't seem to be able to take advantage of it. Barkley was the opposite. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nogs Posted October 1, 2017 Report Share Posted October 1, 2017 I think they're different players to be fair. For me Sigurdsson should be playing in centre mid, his main quality is his passing. He is never going to run with the ball like Barkley can. But so far Koeman has played Sigurdsson as a forward / AM. If he's Barkley's replacement I don't think we're getting an upgrade. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted October 1, 2017 Report Share Posted October 1, 2017 This signing is actually making less and less sense to me with each passing game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shukes Posted October 1, 2017 Report Share Posted October 1, 2017 54 minutes ago, Quinn31 said: Let me make that argument for the argument's sake: Sigurdsson has played how many matches for Everton? 7? He didn't get a full preseason is and is probably still trying to get up to full match fitness. Barkley has played 180 matches for Everton. I think the problem with Barkley lies in his decision making, not his technical ability. Will that improve or is he just never going to be able to make those key decision of pass vs shoot vs dribble? Believe me, I want to see Barkley come back and fight for the shirt. We are missing his creative spark, even if he can be quite wasteful. Then Siggurdson isn't the right player for us. a player that needs to be playing for a certain manager to keep himself fit... simply isn't professional. i k ow match fitness is different, but there is a level even ameteur players can keep up alone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quinn31 Posted October 1, 2017 Report Share Posted October 1, 2017 34 minutes ago, nogs said: I think they're different players to be fair. For me Sigurdsson should be playing in centre mid, his main quality is his passing. He is never going to run with the ball like Barkley can. But so far Koeman has played Sigurdsson as a forward / AM. If he's Barkley's replacement I don't think we're getting an upgrade. Agreed and think that's a decent shout. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shukes Posted October 1, 2017 Report Share Posted October 1, 2017 Get rid of Schneiderlin, he is shit, offers nothing. There is the real problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted October 1, 2017 Report Share Posted October 1, 2017 45 minutes ago, nogs said: I think they're different players to be fair. For me Sigurdsson should be playing in centre mid, his main quality is his passing. He is never going to run with the ball like Barkley can. But so far Koeman has played Sigurdsson as a forward / AM. If he's Barkley's replacement I don't think we're getting an upgrade. I don't get this as hasn't he played almost all of his career on the wing or behind the striker? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted October 1, 2017 Report Share Posted October 1, 2017 The purchase and use of Siggy is enough of a reason to sack koeman. He spends £45m to buy a player to replace one that he has ostracized to the point of him leaving for free and then plays him out wide. Fuckin baffling. It's a bit like letting a range rover go to rust on the drive because it's not good enough on the motorway and then buying an Aston Martin and using it for a run around. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shukes Posted October 1, 2017 Report Share Posted October 1, 2017 Hafs back on form .... the car analogys are coming out. Quinn31 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nogs Posted October 1, 2017 Report Share Posted October 1, 2017 1 hour ago, Shukes said: Get rid of Schneiderlin, he is shit, offers nothing. There is the real problem. Yep agree there. Not as good as Gana at breaking play up, offers nothing going forward. I mean the gulf between him and a 36 year old Barry is unbelievable. That's the big worry tho isn't it - Martin's actually assembled a very handy looking side, he just refused to pay attention to defence. It now looks frighteningly like Koeman has ripped that team apart and replaced it with utter shite. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 1, 2017 Report Share Posted October 1, 2017 23 minutes ago, nogs said: Yep agree there. Not as good as Gana at breaking play up, offers nothing going forward. I mean the gulf between him and a 36 year old Barry is unbelievable. That's the big worry tho isn't it - Martin's actually assembled a very handy looking side, he just refused to pay attention to defence. It now looks frighteningly like Koeman has ripped that team apart and replaced it with utter shite. Totally disagree! Morgan, on his day is fantastic. He gives so much more than Gana. Again, Gana's passing today was dreadful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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