Quinn31 Posted November 8, 2017 Report Share Posted November 8, 2017 2 minutes ago, Romey 1878 said: How many were from open play? Here we go. Next big Toffeetalk debate to the death: London Blue vs Romey on Gylfi Sigurdsson. I knew it had gone a bit quiet! Just teasing, by the way. I'm quiet undecided on Sigurdsson - he has a quality delivery (not sure we've seen him) and Swansea fans seem to praise him, but he's yet to work himself into a single match for us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted November 8, 2017 Report Share Posted November 8, 2017 49 minutes ago, Romey 1878 said: His general play isn’t that good. His stats are skewed massively due to set-pieces. From open play he’s not that useful. None of what has transpired should be a surprise to anyone. He’s slow because he’s always been slow. He’s shit out wide now because he’s always been shit out wide. He’s anonymous during games now because he’s mostly been anonymous during games unless there’s a set-piece to take. We massively overpaid for a player with a very specific skill set that we can’t take advantage of. Spot on. 4 minutes ago, Romey 1878 said: How many were from open play? It's very very few. It was posted on this thread somewhere. Those hoping that him playing for a more in form team are also clutching at straws because he was in a struggling team last season too. It's a bit like Rooney. If he was in a team full of pace, it might work but we aren't and we have too many similar players now. Such a waste of money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted November 8, 2017 Report Share Posted November 8, 2017 7 minutes ago, Quinn31 said: Here we go. Next big Toffeetalk debate to the death: London Blue vs Romey on Gylfi Sigurdsson. I knew it had gone a bit quiet! Just teasing, by the way. I'm quiet undecided on Sigurdsson - he has a quality delivery (not sure we've seen him) and Swansea fans seem to praise him, but he's yet to work himself into a single match for us. Won’t happen, Quinn, I cba repeating myself over and over just wording it in a different way. I said before we signed him that he wasn’t the right signing for us because he wasn’t the creative player we were craving. Sure he’ll whip in a nice corner or free-kick, but what we needed was someone to do it from open play in order to challenge Barkley (if he stayed) or improve on what Barkley offers. Gylfi isn’t that player, he was never going to be and he never will be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
London Blue Posted November 8, 2017 Report Share Posted November 8, 2017 3 minutes ago, Romey 1878 said: Won’t happen, Quinn, I cba repeating myself over and over just wording it in a different way. I said before we signed him that he wasn’t the right signing for us because he wasn’t the creative player we were craving. Sure he’ll whip in a nice corner or free-kick, but what we needed was someone to do it from open play in order to challenge Barkley (if he stayed) or improve on what Barkley offers. Gylfi isn’t that player, he was never going to be and he never will be. An assist is an assist. Anyway in the interests of brevity below is a link to all his goals and assists last season, people can watch and make their own minds up... Matt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
London Blue Posted November 8, 2017 Report Share Posted November 8, 2017 4 minutes ago, Romey 1878 said: Won’t happen, Quinn, I cba repeating myself over and over just wording it in a different way. I said before we signed him that he wasn’t the right signing for us because he wasn’t the creative player we were craving. Sure he’ll whip in a nice corner or free-kick, but what we needed was someone to do it from open play in order to challenge Barkley (if he stayed) or improve on what Barkley offers. Gylfi isn’t that player, he was never going to be and he never will be. Love the the way you used an acronym for "can't be arsed", and did the rest of the post as normal with perfect grammar. Romey 1878 and Quinn31 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quinn31 Posted November 8, 2017 Report Share Posted November 8, 2017 10 minutes ago, Romey 1878 said: Won’t happen, Quinn, I cba repeating myself over and over just wording it in a different way. I said before we signed him that he wasn’t the right signing for us because he wasn’t the creative player we were craving. Sure he’ll whip in a nice corner or free-kick, but what we needed was someone to do it from open play in order to challenge Barkley (if he stayed) or improve on what Barkley offers. Gylfi isn’t that player, he was never going to be and he never will be. Fair enough. I don't think I'm going to fully condemn any of the new signings as "not good enough" or "not the right player" (besides Cuco) until closer to the summer, but I think it's a decent shout to say that Gylfi's set piece prowess makes him a great fit for West Brom/Palace/Swansea or any lower half team that needs to create from set pieces, but maybe not for a side with our ambition. Time will tell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted November 8, 2017 Report Share Posted November 8, 2017 11 minutes ago, London Blue said: An assist is an assist. Anyway in the interests of brevity below is a link to all his goals and assists last season, people can watch and make their own minds up... That it is but, like I said, it’s creativity from open play that we were lacking. It’s frustrating when we have a shit corner delivery or a terrible free-kick delivery, but it’s not the end of the world. Struggling to create chances in general play will get you relegated. We went after Gylfi like he was going to be this creative demon and he’s just not that player. Ive said it before, he’s a decent player and I’d have liked him here as a complimentary sort of player, but we hung everything on his signing. Wrongly in my opinion. 7 minutes ago, London Blue said: Love the the way you used an acronym for "can't be arsed", and did the rest of the post as normal with perfect grammar. You’re welcome Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
London Blue Posted November 9, 2017 Report Share Posted November 9, 2017 4 hours ago, Romey 1878 said: That it is but, like I said, it’s creativity from open play that we were lacking. It’s frustrating when we have a shit corner delivery or a terrible free-kick delivery, but it’s not the end of the world. Struggling to create chances in general play will get you relegated. We went after Gylfi like he was going to be this creative demon and he’s just not that player. Ive said it before, he’s a decent player and I’d have liked him here as a complimentary sort of player, but we hung everything on his signing. Wrongly in my opinion. You’re welcome Fair enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shukes Posted November 9, 2017 Report Share Posted November 9, 2017 An assist is only as good as the person on the end of it. when we were bidding for him, people put up a stat that showed had covered the most mileage in the premier league.... that’s where I have been surprised. He seems slow and not very mobile. He doesn’t seem to be this high intensity pressure player that those stats made him out to be, much like Klaassen. Sibdane and Matt 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted November 9, 2017 Report Share Posted November 9, 2017 1 hour ago, Shukes said: An assist is only as good as the person on the end of it. when we were bidding for him, people put up a stat that showed had covered the most mileage in the premier league.... that’s where I have been surprised. He seems slow and not very mobile. He doesn’t seem to be this high intensity pressure player that those stats made him out to be, much like Klaassen. He still runs around a lot, he just doesn't tend to actually get anywhere near his man or the ball. pete0 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sibdane Posted November 9, 2017 Report Share Posted November 9, 2017 5 hours ago, Romey 1878 said: He still runs around a lot, he just doesn't tend to actually get anywhere near his man or the ball. I think it has to do with the players around him. I know you'll disagree, but he's a player that relies on an intelligent player (Llorente) in front him, and he just doesn't have that at the moment. I think if we get a proper striker in the January window we'll see his fortunes change. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paddock Posted November 29, 2017 Report Share Posted November 29, 2017 He was excellent tonight- he really was. markjazzbassist and Newty82 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newty82 Posted November 29, 2017 Report Share Posted November 29, 2017 Yep. Looked real good tonight. Played with real confidence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c1982 Posted November 29, 2017 Report Share Posted November 29, 2017 8 minutes ago, Paddock said: He was excellent tonight- he really was. ...and finally took a decent corner!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted November 29, 2017 Report Share Posted November 29, 2017 That was much more what I expected. I hope he carry’s it on into Saturday’s game. pete0, markjazzbassist and Paddock 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC11 Posted November 29, 2017 Report Share Posted November 29, 2017 A much better performance but he's no Rooney Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paddock Posted November 29, 2017 Report Share Posted November 29, 2017 6 minutes ago, MC11 said: A much better performance but he's no Rooney No he isn’t he’s a completely different player but hopefully he’ll pish on after this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c1982 Posted November 29, 2017 Report Share Posted November 29, 2017 6 minutes ago, MC11 said: A much better performance but he's no Rooney Yeah but if we can find a way to get both into the team naturally e.g Rooney deeper and Gylfi wide then it’s to our benefit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lowensda Posted November 29, 2017 Report Share Posted November 29, 2017 1 minute ago, Paddock said: No he isn’t he’s a completely different player but hopefully he’ll pish on after this. You're taking the pish pal. Paddock, MikeO and Matt 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC11 Posted November 29, 2017 Report Share Posted November 29, 2017 All plaudits must go to Rooney tonight. He was like the best player in the school yard doing everyone else's job Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sydneyneil Posted November 29, 2017 Report Share Posted November 29, 2017 It was like he had more space tonight and had a buzz about him. Maybe that was with Rooney playing deeper. Rooney will and should take all the plaudits but his display shouldn't go unnoticed either. Hopefully he kicks on from here Paddock 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete0 Posted November 29, 2017 Report Share Posted November 29, 2017 His best game so far. Needs to do it week in week out and not just against the likes of Zabeleta. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted November 29, 2017 Report Share Posted November 29, 2017 I wasn't too fussed with him on the left, but second half when he moved across to the right, he was cutting in more, linking the play and making a really big contribution. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete0 Posted November 30, 2017 Report Share Posted November 30, 2017 Just trying to find Gylfi's penalty stats and come across this. Not checked anyone for comparison but shocked by how poor his heading stats are, not like he's in the box for fks so I'd imagine most are from duals trying to get gk punts or defending fks. He's 6ft 1". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paddock Posted December 3, 2017 Report Share Posted December 3, 2017 Starting to get better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted December 3, 2017 Report Share Posted December 3, 2017 53 minutes ago, Paddock said: Starting to get better. Thankfully! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paddock Posted December 3, 2017 Report Share Posted December 3, 2017 12 minutes ago, Romey 1878 said: Thankfully! I can forgive his start- the whole teams been utter shite he’s picking up a bit as is the team- long may that continue. I feel he’ll always be on to a loser here though because of his price tag which wasn’t his fault and that’s a real shame. markjazzbassist 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted December 3, 2017 Report Share Posted December 3, 2017 Just now, Paddock said: I can forgive his start- the whole teams been utter shite he’s picking up a bit as is the team- long may that continue. I feel he’ll always be on to a loser here though because of his price tag which wasn’t his fault and that’s a real shame. He'll never live up to his price tag because he's just not that good, but there's a lot in him that he can give and we must get out of him. Bailey and Elston Gunnn 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paddock Posted December 3, 2017 Report Share Posted December 3, 2017 28 minutes ago, Romey 1878 said: He'll never live up to his price tag because he's just not that good, but there's a lot in him that he can give and we must get out of him. No he’as not but it’s unfair to hold the pricetag against him- he had no control over that whatsoever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted December 3, 2017 Report Share Posted December 3, 2017 8 minutes ago, Paddock said: No he’as not but it’s unfair to hold the pricetag against him- he had no control over that whatsoever. I wasn't saying it should be held against him, Pad, quite the opposite because he was never worth that in the first place. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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