Newty82 Posted May 10 Report Share Posted May 10 All sorts of stories now that MSP will step in etc. Stories coming from an angle that we are having to 'beg' MSP to come back. Reality is, MSP have always been around. They wanted a 25% stake in the club, cash for equity, before 777 came along. That deal was only vetoed by the shadow that is Rights and Media Funding (the company with no employees, no physical office, no assets and no apparant cash flow). I have a feeling, I'm pretty sure many of yous have had too, that this 'shadow', Rights and Media Funding, has a firm grip on this club through guarantees against assets that potential buyers are finding difficult to navigate. We've known for years our finances are a tangled Web. Moshiri, judging by his running of the club, was the only 'rich' guy willing to take on the mess. And make it messier. Whilst the others said no thanks! Half my speculation, half 'reportedly fact'...who really knows!!! Sev, Romey 1878 and Matt 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted May 10 Report Share Posted May 10 29 minutes ago, Newty82 said: All sorts of stories now that MSP will step in etc. Stories coming from an angle that we are having to 'beg' MSP to come back. Reality is, MSP have always been around. They wanted a 25% stake in the club, cash for equity, before 777 came along. That deal was only vetoed by the shadow that is Rights and Media Funding (the company with no employees, no physical office, no assets and no apparant cash flow). I have a feeling, I'm pretty sure many of yous have had too, that this 'shadow', Rights and Media Funding, has a firm grip on this club through guarantees against assets that potential buyers are finding difficult to navigate. We've known for years our finances are a tangled Web. Moshiri, judging by his running of the club, was the only 'rich' guy willing to take on the mess. And make it messier. Whilst the others said no thanks! Half my speculation, half 'reportedly fact'...who really knows!!! Just another feather in the cap of Bill Kenwright. He may be gone but he will never be forgotten! Newty82 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Romey 1878 Posted May 10 Popular Post Report Share Posted May 10 Moshiri really needs to come out and tell the fans what's going on. The lack of anything official is leaving the press to have a field day with the A word, fans are getting very worried. It's chaos. The thing I'm finding most bizarre is how some Everton fans (mentioning no names) seem to be pushing for us to go into administration. It's almost like they have skin in the game and it would somehow benefit them. Administration should never be talked about as something good, it is anything but. It would be disaster for a multitude of reasons. StevO, Sev, London Blue and 4 others 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newty82 Posted May 10 Report Share Posted May 10 Standard Liege game called off tonight due to protests against 777. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Btay Posted May 10 Report Share Posted May 10 I saw something that Timmy Cahill who is very involved in football in Qatar is trying to convince some of their wealthy businessmen to buy Everton. We need something however 777 is not the answer, clearly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted May 10 Report Share Posted May 10 20 minutes ago, Btay said: I saw something that Timmy Cahill who is very involved in football in Qatar is trying to convince some of their wealthy businessmen to buy Everton. We need something however 777 is not the answer, clearly I know no big money is clean money, but I don't want oil money. Cornish Steve 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haiku Posted May 11 Report Share Posted May 11 2 hours ago, Matt said: I know no big money is clean money, but I don't want oil money. I'm the opposite. I specifically want oil money. It holds the highest value in football. With oil money, you can win trophies and avoid PSR. It's a win-win. AlbanyNYToffee 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cornish Steve Posted May 11 Report Share Posted May 11 6 hours ago, Matt said: I know no big money is clean money, but I don't want oil money. Any of the big industrial families in India would suit us just fine: Ambani, Birla, etc. They're really business-savvy, and they know too little about football to interfere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patto Posted May 11 Report Share Posted May 11 35 minutes ago, Cornish Steve said: Any of the big industrial families in India would suit us just fine: Ambani, Birla, etc. They're really business-savvy, and they know too little about football to interfere. We need someone who knows about football as well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newty82 Posted May 11 Report Share Posted May 11 8 hours ago, Matt said: I know no big money is clean money, but I don't want oil money. Why is it a 'no' for oil money? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zoo 2.0 Posted May 11 Report Share Posted May 11 10 hours ago, Btay said: I saw something that Timmy Cahill who is very involved in football in Qatar is trying to convince some of their wealthy businessmen to buy Everton. We need something however 777 is not the answer, clearly Oil me up baby. StevO, Sev and Newty82 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted May 11 Report Share Posted May 11 1 hour ago, Newty82 said: Why is it a 'no' for oil money? The human rights stuff. Same reason I didn't want russian money Newty82 and Cornish Steve 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted May 11 Report Share Posted May 11 It would appear they haven't been told the deal is off at all. I get more confused by the day . Newty82 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted May 11 Report Share Posted May 11 3 hours ago, Cornish Steve said: Any of the big industrial families in India would suit us just fine: Ambani, Birla, etc. They're really business-savvy, and they know too little about football to interfere. India's human rights record is hardly something to ignore too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patto Posted May 11 Report Share Posted May 11 56 minutes ago, Romey 1878 said: It would appear they haven't been told the deal is off at all. I get more confused by the day . It’s about the money they on interest payments they will still make a very good profit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted May 11 Report Share Posted May 11 9 minutes ago, patto said: It’s about the money they on interest payments they will still make a very good profit. https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/articles/c1rv19ygje4o So where are they finding this money? None of this makes sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sev Posted May 11 Report Share Posted May 11 1 hour ago, Matt said: India's human rights record is hardly something to ignore too Matt ... get a grip, please. There are no "clean" money. Especially not in the big business. That's capatalism for you whether you like it or not. Not that I don't agree with you, but it's just so unrealistic to find "clean" big spenders. Newty82 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted May 11 Report Share Posted May 11 17 minutes ago, Sev said: Matt ... get a grip, please. There are no "clean" money. Especially not in the big business. That's capatalism for you whether you like it or not. Not that I don't agree with you, but it's just so unrealistic to find "clean" big spenders. I have quite a firm grip, thanks. I already acknowledged there's no clean money and explained why I don't like the options. I already lost a lot of love for the game with the last World Cups, I was always nervous about Moshiri... Us completely selling out to an outfit like that doesn't fit with what Everton means to me. Sev and Newty82 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cornish Steve Posted May 11 Report Share Posted May 11 Let's form a corporation and sell shares at £10 each. How much is needed. £600m maybe? That would be 60m shares. Some corporations and major investors will purchase in the hundreds of thousands, and I reckon a lot of fans would pay between £10 and £100. We can appoint a board and truly make it the people's club. That way, there's no need for any type of dirty money. evertoninvestments dot com. Palfy, Gwlad, Newty82 and 1 other 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palfy Posted May 11 Report Share Posted May 11 Just now, Cornish Steve said: Let's form a corporation and sell shares at £10 each. How much is needed. £600m maybe? That would be 60m shares. Some corporations and major investors will purchase in the hundreds of thousands, and I reckon a lot of fans would pay between £10 and £100. We can appoint a board and truly make it the people's club. That way, there's no need for any type of dirty money. evertoninvestments dot com. I’d buy into that. Matt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Cornish Steve Posted May 11 Popular Post Report Share Posted May 11 2 minutes ago, Palfy said: I’d buy into that. Any lawyers at TT? Damn. We need "thinking" Evertonians, so I guess we fell at the first hurdle. Newty82, Matt, Sev and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palfy Posted May 11 Report Share Posted May 11 Just now, Cornish Steve said: Any lawyers at TT? Damn. We need "thinking" Evertonians, so I guess we fell at the first hurdle. many have probably needed lawyers but no lawyers on here here I expect StevO and Newty82 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Cornish Steve Posted May 11 Popular Post Report Share Posted May 11 1 minute ago, Palfy said: many have probably needed lawyers but no lawyers on here here I expect OK Palfy. Let's assign the executive roles. Nominal chairman of the board: Louis CEO: Prediction game winner (new appointment each year) COO: Prediction game runner-up (new appointment each year) CFO: Newty CMO: Matt Public relations: MikeO Head of HR: SteveO Head of strategy: c1982 Hobnobbing with "in the knows": Hafnia International relations: Boston Toffee Wizened head of reason: Palfy Executive without portfolio: Cornish Steve Now there's a winning team Palfy, Matt, StevO and 2 others 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palfy Posted May 11 Report Share Posted May 11 1 minute ago, Cornish Steve said: OK Palfy. Let's assign the executive roles. Nominal chairman of the board: Louis CEO: Prediction game winner (new appointment each year) COO: Prediction game runner-up (new appointment each year) CFO: Newty CMO: Matt Public relations: MikeO Head of HR: SteveO Head of strategy: c1982 Hobnobbing with "in the knows": Hafnia International relations: Boston Toffee Wizened head of reason: Palfy Executive without portfolio: Cornish Steve Now there's a winning team Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cornish Steve Posted May 11 Report Share Posted May 11 3 minutes ago, Cornish Steve said: OK Palfy. Let's assign the executive roles. Nominal chairman of the board: Louis CEO: Prediction game winner (new appointment each year) COO: Prediction game runner-up (new appointment each year) CFO: Newty CMO: Matt Public relations: MikeO Head of HR: SteveO Head of strategy: c1982 Hobnobbing with "in the knows": Hafnia International relations: Boston Toffee Wizened head of reason: Palfy Executive without portfolio: Cornish Steve Now there's a winning team Don't be upset, Romey. I'm assuming you'll be our CEO for a few years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted May 11 Report Share Posted May 11 13 minutes ago, Cornish Steve said: OK Palfy. Let's assign the executive roles. Nominal chairman of the board: Louis CEO: Prediction game winner (new appointment each year) COO: Prediction game runner-up (new appointment each year) CFO: Newty CMO: Matt Public relations: MikeO Head of HR: SteveO Head of strategy: c1982 Hobnobbing with "in the knows": Hafnia International relations: Boston Toffee Wizened head of reason: Palfy Executive without portfolio: Cornish Steve Now there's a winning team Wouldn't PR require me to talk at times? Could be a problem (unless we employ Josh as my PA/translator, bit of nepotism never hurt anyone) Matt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cornish Steve Posted May 11 Report Share Posted May 11 1 minute ago, MikeO said: Wouldn't PR require me to talk at times? Could be a problem (unless we employ Josh as my PA/translator, bit of nepotism never hurt anyone) We need more of that good-natured and occasionally self-deprecating humour in our press releases - and someone who actually knows what they're talking about. Yes, Josh could be your apprentice in training. MikeO 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trigger Posted May 11 Report Share Posted May 11 51 minutes ago, Cornish Steve said: Any lawyers at TT? Damn. We need "thinking" Evertonians, so I guess we fell at the first hurdle. But all overqualified to be Moshiri's Tax advisor Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevO Posted May 11 Report Share Posted May 11 38 minutes ago, Cornish Steve said: OK Palfy. Let's assign the executive roles. Nominal chairman of the board: Louis CEO: Prediction game winner (new appointment each year) COO: Prediction game runner-up (new appointment each year) CFO: Newty CMO: Matt Public relations: MikeO Head of HR: SteveO Head of strategy: c1982 Hobnobbing with "in the knows": Hafnia International relations: Boston Toffee Wizened head of reason: Palfy Executive without portfolio: Cornish Steve Now there's a winning team I can promise you, I should not be in HR! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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